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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 03:15
From: Moopf Murray
Probably the second, but I can't be bothered to search either way.

But I wasn't actually pointing the thread about because you were particularly uncivil on it. More because of the over-inflated sense of self-importance that you ooze, which the casual forum reader may find applicable to give some backing and understanding to your posts and abuse reports today. Ithankyou.

Well, I'm sorry you feel this way.
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2005 03:18
From: Hiro Pendragon
No one said heinous.

Also, the definition of trolling is posting to specifically illicit a negative reply.


For fucks sake... how can I be held responsible for the replies? Could I predict you were going to skulk up behind every post I made today and AR me and make negative comments? Not really my fault that you can't control yourself.

Also not my fault that you firmly believe everything I do is trolling. Ya know what? Sometimes, just sometimes, it gets fucking annoying having someone constantly dismiss your every word and action as trolling.

Hopefully it gives you a similar twinge when I call you a petty fucking Linden wannabee forum cop.
Mulch Ennui
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12-01-2005 03:21
From: Hiro Pendragon

Also, the definition of trolling is posting to specifically illicit a negative reply.


if we use Goodwins law as an example, if you start a thread specifically about a neagtive topic, such as this one, who the same protection be given to trolling as goodwins law?

in other words, in a discussion about the Nazis, one can't invoke goodwin (as in this thread)

damn, I just said Nazi!!!!!!

Ok, since I did it, if you started a negative thread about Nazis, would it be immune to accusations of trolling AND Goodwins law?
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 03:29
From: Kris Ritter
For fucks sake... how can I be held responsible for the replies? Could I predict you were going to skulk up behind every post I made today and AR me and make negative comments? Not really my fault that you can't control yourself.

People tend to be held responsible for provoking things.

Seriously ... this is like you posting questions about specific products in General because of the new classified no-reply. You knew it wasn't a good idea, and were trying ti illicit a reaction.

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Also not my fault that you firmly believe everything I do is trolling. Ya know what? Sometimes, just sometimes, it gets fucking annoying having someone constantly dismiss your every word and action as trolling.

I don't think everything is. Though, if you look at what you do - posting "ban teh guns" and claiming it's some sort of raising awareness - sure does *seem* like necroposting for necroposting sake, to an outsider.

If I'm wrong with assuming what I saw as an obvious necropost just out of boredom ... then I'll try and take your posts more seriously from now on. I mean that in all honesty.

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Hopefully it gives you a similar twinge when I call you a petty fucking Linden wannabee forum cop.

I will honestly make an effort to re-evaluate your posts - however ridiculous I may think them at first. Perhaps you could consider re-evaluating your posts as well - and maybe, just maybe, if you indeed are as blind to your hook-baiting as you claim, you'll realize that your posts do very much appear, quite often, to be goading people into negative replies.
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2005 03:35
From: Hiro Pendragon
People tend to be held responsible for provoking things.

Seriously ... this is like you posting questions about specific products in General because of the new classified no-reply. You knew it wasn't a good idea, and were trying ti illicit a reaction.


Gah!!! I fucking wasn't! You make me so fucking angry with your assumptions.

I DID WHAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO. As I've pointed out a dozen or so times, it explicitly said in the announcement and the stickies that we were now to discuss in the discussion forums. And I did. That you had a different idea about what the Lindens wanted from us is not my problem. YOU were the one trolling my legitimate threads yesterday.

I'd ask you to bother to READ my hotline to Linden post of yesterday and READ my 800 plus word post on the subject yesterday trying to summarise the issue and calling for some real solutions.

But I'm just a troll, right? Everything I do is to illicit negative reaction.

It's ironic that you start off the post psychoanalysing and condemning me as a troll again, then go on to say in the same post that you'll sincerely take me more seriously in future. Right. Sure.

No wonder I had you on ignore. It's like talking to the same brick wall over and over again.

*plonk*
Kris Ritter
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12-01-2005 03:38
From: Hiro Pendragon
People tend to be held responsible for provoking things.


Yeah. I can see how that girl who uses the child av should be disciplined for DARING to post in the classified forums and inciting 200 plus posts from bigots. :rolleyes:

Child Av's and escorts (Hiro's personal pet subject). Fuckers should be banned. Fucking ASKING for it they were. Provoked us! :mad:
Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 03:55
From: Kris Ritter
Gah!!! I fucking wasn't! You make me so fucking angry with your assumptions.

I DID WHAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO. As I've pointed out a dozen or so times, it explicitly said in the announcement and the stickies that we were now to discuss in the discussion forums. And I did. That you had a different idea about what the Lindens wanted from us is not my problem. YOU were the one trolling my legitimate threads yesterday.

I'd ask you to bother to READ my hotline to Linden post of yesterday and READ my 800 plus word post on the subject yesterday trying to summarise the issue and calling for some real solutions.

But I'm just a troll, right? Everything I do is to illicit negative reaction.

It's ironic that you start off the post psychoanalysing and condemning me as a troll again, then go on to say in the same post that you'll sincerely take me more seriously in future. Right. Sure.

No wonder I had you on ignore. It's like talking to the same brick wall over and over again.

*plonk*


From: That Announcement you are referring to

The discussion about the items will not be allowed inside the classifieds themselves, but will be directed to the appropriate Discussion Forums.

As I reasoned, General has been ruled not the "appropriate" place.

But look - all that hoopla got it reinstated - you got what you wanted because the thread got attention.

Once again, I ask you - from an outsider's viewpoint, check out your threads, with the assumption that General is not the appropriate place, and you may discover that it may *appear* very much like you're trolling.
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Moopf Murray
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12-01-2005 03:57
From: Hiro Pendragon
Once again, I ask you - from an outsider's viewpoint, check out your threads, with the assumption that General is not the appropriate place, and you may discover that it may *appear* very much like you're trolling.


So much like this thread, no? Glass houses. Stones. Messy.
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 03:58
From: Kris Ritter
Yeah. I can see how that girl who uses the child av should be disciplined for DARING to post in the classified forums and inciting 200 plus posts from bigots. :rolleyes:

Child Av's and escorts (Hiro's personal pet subject). Fuckers should be banned. Fucking ASKING for it they were. Provoked us! :mad:

That's sheer relativism. The key is intent and/or recklessness.

And yes, recklessness is debateable.

And please stop with the red herrings. It's getting really, really old.
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Hank Ramos
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12-01-2005 04:03
From: Hiro Pendragon
And please stop with the red herrings. It's getting really, really old.


mmmm...red herring sushi! :D
Mulch Ennui
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12-01-2005 04:04
From: Hank Ramos
mmmm...red herring sushi! :D


chorizo...

no, not again...
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 04:09
From: Moopf Murray
So much like this thread, no? Glass houses. Stones. Messy.

Given the past few days ... are the poll choices accurate or not? (My own poll included as part of a choice, too?) The poll didn't name names, or say something was bad - and it didn't even single anyone out, as it included a bunch of us.

Perhaps I should have put a disclaimer at the beginning. Let me do that now.
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Maxx Monde
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12-01-2005 04:14
Its probably time to queue up your favorite podcasting aggregator (I believe it is now called 'juice' instead of ipodder, but whatever) and listen to my maxxcast. Recent update link at my livejournal site.

Why not? Don't be afraid of the SHINY.

:)
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Hank Ramos
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12-01-2005 04:14
From: Maxx Monde
Its probably time to queue up your favorite podcasting aggregator (I believe it is now called 'juice' instead of ipodder, but whatever) and listen to my maxxcast. Recent update link at my livejournal site.

Why not? Don't be afraid of the SHINY.

:)


Shut your shine-hole, you! :D

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Moopf Murray
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12-01-2005 04:18
From: Hiro Pendragon
Given the past few days ... are the poll choices accurate or not? (My own poll included as part of a choice, too?) The poll didn't name names, or say something was bad - and it didn't even single anyone out, as it included a bunch of us.

Perhaps I should have put a disclaimer at the beginning. Let me do that now.


Yes but surely this thread would be more suitable for off-topic, wouldn't it? You know, start with the assumption that it's not suitable for General :rolleyes:. I mean, you're complaining about people posting inaccurately in General, yet you've done exactly the same thing with this. And actually you do it quite a lot.

Nothing to do with naming names, singling people out, saying anything's bad. Just that it's totally off-topic.

Perhaps you should of just posted it in the correct place. If you followed your own rules maybe people wouldn't dismiss your protestations so much *shrug-a-delic*
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 05:53
From: Moopf Murray
Yes but surely this thread would be more suitable for off-topic, wouldn't it? You know, start with the assumption that it's not suitable for General :rolleyes:. I mean, you're complaining about people posting inaccurately in General, yet you've done exactly the same thing with this. And actually you do it quite a lot.

Nothing to do with naming names, singling people out, saying anything's bad. Just that it's totally off-topic.

Perhaps you should of just posted it in the correct place. If you followed your own rules maybe people wouldn't dismiss your protestations so much *shrug-a-delic*

So you're saying what people do at 4am EST on the forums is not of general interest to the forum?

*cocks an eyebrow, chuckles*
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Moopf Murray
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12-01-2005 06:05
From: Hiro Pendragon
So you're saying what people do at 4am EST on the forums is not of general interest to the forum?

*cocks an eyebrow, chuckles*


And this, my forum friends, is why Hiro Pendragon is so interminably annoying! He always thinks that he has a fantastic reason to post contrary to how he thinks everybody else should post. Gotta love those double-standards!

Please ladies and gentlement, make way for Hiro and his amazing, astounding, unbelievable "Over-Inflated Sense Of Self-Importance" (tm)

*clap* *cheers* *wooo*
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12-01-2005 07:10
From: Moopf Murray
Where's the "Put Hiro on ignore" option? This poll is biased I tells ya!


Done.
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-01-2005 10:51
Gee, it's a shocker.

I'm not the only one who doesn't like necroposting.

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12-01-2005 11:22
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Euterpe Roo
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12-01-2005 13:33
From: Nolan Nash
Sure did!

Obscure movies, videos, concert footage, shorts, etc.

Was definately for people who were inebriated by something.

I was mad when they replaced it with USA Up All Night!

Bastards. :mad:


Haven't seen you around these parts lately, Nolan. :D (That could just be my new post-and-run forum style). Sorry to hear about your insomnia--bummer, that.

I truly miss Rhonda--that girl was a genius.

Hope the sandman visits your van. ;) :D

roo

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