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Anne Rice will not only "write for the Lord"

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10-23-2005 12:06
She found Jesus and is now commiting her next three books to his life.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9785289/site/newsweek/

Even though I am not a Christian, I would be very interested to read her story.
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10-23-2005 12:09
Maybe she'll have Jesus rocking on stage like Lestat, fighting the forces of evil.

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10-24-2005 01:17
I don't want her uninspired false doctrine touted as fact in her novels. I liked it better when what she wrote was definitely and positively categorized as fiction. Now it's only fiction to the atheists and those who disagree with her Roman Catholic views.
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10-24-2005 05:38
I would have to say I am very curious to read this as well. Most of her work has been fiction, but historical fiction. I am curious to see how someone fought so long against her upbringing has come to this place in her life and writing, she has been very public about NOT being catholic, about having left the church at a young age. She always seems to give a very interesting spin on things in my opinion..We shall see :)
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10-24-2005 06:46
From: Bertha Horton
I don't want her uninspired false doctrine touted as fact in her novels.
Why not? That's exactly what the bible is, a collection of fictional short stories written by different authors and assembled into a single book. I think it's time the New Testament had an addendum and I think Rice is the one to do it. :D

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10-24-2005 06:53
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Why not? That's exactly what the bible is, a collection of fictional short stories written by different authors and assembled into a single book. I think it's time the New Testament had an addendum and I think Rice is the one to do it. :D

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This statement is so ignorant of the facts I hardly know what to say. Perhaps just one thing. Try reading it.
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10-24-2005 07:20
I don't particularly care one way or another if Anne found and accepted a personal savior in her life. I just wish she'd find and accept a personal editor in her life.
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10-24-2005 08:05
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This statement is so ignorant of the facts I hardly know what to say. Perhaps just one thing. Try reading it.
This statement is so ignorant of the facts I hardly know what to say. Perhaps just one thing. I have read it. ... and wished I hadn't.

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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-24-2005 08:05
From: Jillian Callahan
I don't particularly care one way or another if Anne found and accepted a personal savior in her life. I just wish she'd find and accept a personal editor in her life.
Zing! :D

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10-24-2005 08:10
From: Jillian Callahan
I don't particularly care one way or another if Anne found and accepted a personal savior in her life. I just wish she'd find and accept a personal editor in her life.



haha! I agree :)
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10-24-2005 09:59
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
This statement is so ignorant of the facts I hardly know what to say. Perhaps just one thing. I have read it. ... and wished I hadn't.

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Are you sure? Perhaps you could answer a simple question, just to address one problem with your round condemnation. How do you justify deciding that a book of letters or a book consisting of a poem (just examples of the different types of books in the Bible) are "fictional short stories"?
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10-24-2005 10:06
Dang... it makes no mention on whether or not she's gonna continue her vampire books.
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10-24-2005 10:19
Christianity -- the only world religion that is acceptable to bash. Can't bash Muslims, or Hindus or Jews... can't even bash atheists... but Christians... sure... open season on them.

Why? Why is it ACCEPTABLE to bash Christians and NOT ACCEPTABLE to bash every other religious group in the world?
Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-24-2005 10:28
From: Garnet Psaltery
Perhaps you could answer a simple question, just to address one problem with your round condemnation. How do you justify deciding that a book of letters or a book consisting of a poem (just examples of the different types of books in the Bible) are "fictional short stories"?
When I say the bible is comprised of "fictional short stories", I'm referring to the fact that the writings in the bible are fictional allegories that are the work of multiple authors which have been compiled into a single digest. Because of this, one could add the letters, poems, and tales of Anne's Rice's new religious works to the end of the book to complement it. Frankly, it could only improve its readability.

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10-24-2005 10:30
Anne Rice doing Jesus? Literarily, that is...?

Philip Dick did it earlier. In Rautavaara’s Case,
the idea of Jesus is played around with by aliens working with the mind of a brain-damaged human astronaut they've rescued in space - as part of an experiment in religious psychology and an effort to bridge the communication gap. Jesus becomes an alien messiah who eats the flesh of his disciples and drinks their blood - a sort of Lestat from another world - and the way in which the aliens perceive their own savior. But things do not turn out the way the aliens planned....

Given her books, I'm not sure what Rice could add to this. ;)

btw, given the relationship between the Torah and the Bible; the Ugaritic, Syriac, Aramaic, Septuagint, Ethiopic, Coptic, and Vulgate versions of the Bible; the myriad apocrypha including the Dead Sea Scrolls, the discoveries at Ras Shamra and other sites; the continuous evangelical additions by the Manicheans, the Albegensians, Martin Luther, Joseph Smith and many others, the constant reinterpretations, retranslations, and various literary iterations throughout the last 2000 years - what's the problem with Anne Rice taking her own shot at (eternal and ideological) glory?

You don't know what the Bible is and what it isn't. And if you think you know, well, then a billion other Christians certainly disagree with you.

Oh, ya, an edit for Aaron's sake - the same can be said about religious texts from nearly any other major historical or contemporary religion - from the Book of the Dead to the Analects. The difference is that only Christians and Muslims claim ex cathedra qualities for their written work, and only Christians and Muslims draw down on people who point out the inconsistencies.

Which makes Christians and Muslims a fat, sitting target in a world of humor - whereas most other religions are moving targets. Go figure. ;)

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10-24-2005 10:32
From: Aaron Levy
Why? Why is it ACCEPTABLE to bash Christians and NOT ACCEPTABLE to bash every other religious group in the world?
All religions are pseudoscientific belief systems. I see no difference between any of them.

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10-24-2005 10:35
From: Seth Kanahoe
btw, given the relationship between the Torah and the Bible; the Ugaritic, Syriac, Aramaic, Septuagint, Ethiopic, Coptic, and Vulgate versions of the Bible; the myriad apocrypha including the Dead Sea Scrolls, the discoveries at Ras Shamra and other sites; the continuous evangelical additions by the Manicheans, the Albegensians, Martin Luther, Joseph Smith and many others, the constant reinterpretations, retranslations, and various literary iterations throughout the last 2000 years - what's the problem with Anne Rice taking her own shot at (eternal and ideological) glory?
When Seth talks I shut up and listen. :)

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10-24-2005 10:43
I did not think anyone was taking stab at Christians, just someone's interpretation of the bible. And there are ways and reasons to back up that they are just a collection of short stories and lessons to live by, but I do no think this thread was started as a theological debate.

Also Anne Rice is an amazing writer, just me. My opinion of course, I enjoy books that give alot of background, descriptive scenery, and full plot.

Anne Rice has taken a stab at religious fiction before, in the story of Memnoch The Devil.. You see a very interesting side to the rise of man kind, and the fall of the arch angels. Also on ideas such as pergatory and the gates of heaven.

I do not care how she came to religion once again, but the fact that every major change in her life has created a new and vibrate twist to her writings, as most know the death of her daughter brought about the character Claudia, and then her desicion to be strong again rose up when she made Lestat the center of her Vampire world. Her life effects her writings which is what I am interested to see.

I have read many pieces of Religious Fiction. Many of those mentioned above, also The DaVinci Code, THe Autobiography Of Mary of Magadalene.. I find it to be a very interesting part of literature.

And Yes like most fans of Anne Rice, I do hope she returns to her Vampires and Witches, but if she choses to end that chapter of her life as she did the Beauty series more power to her.
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10-24-2005 11:00
From: Angel Byrd
Anne Rice has taken a stab at religious fiction before, in the story of Memnoch The Devil.. You see a very interesting side to the rise of man kind, and the fall of the arch angels. Also on ideas such as pergatory and the gates of heaven.
What a great, informative, kind post! :)

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10-24-2005 12:37
From: Bertha Horton
I don't want her uninspired false doctrine touted as fact in her novels. I liked it better when what she wrote was definitely and positively categorized as fiction. Now it's only fiction to the atheists and those who disagree with her Roman Catholic views.


You know, that last comment, that it's only fiction to the atheists and those who disagree with her Roman Catholic views? That's such a blanket statement that rests on the assumption that only non atheists and those that don't agree with "roman catholic views" are intelligent enough to separate fact from fiction etc.

I _choose_ to believe in what the Bible says, to me it doesn't matter whether it's fiction or not.

I am not unintelligent, and your assumption that I would take Anne Rice's FICTION as FACT, is highly insulting. I can string three or more words together into a cohesive thought that does not make blanket statements. You, obviously, cannot.

Furthermore, your basis that the entire reading population and world recognized her previous books as fiction is false. There are entire groups of "vampires" and vampire enthusiasts who believe WHOLEHEARTEDLY in the vampire premises that she created and then touted within her books. Katherine Ramsland covers this in her book Piercing the Darkness. Some of those people believe that the Vampire series are fact.

Please do your research before making blanket assumptions on the intelligence or unintelligence of different groups. Also, before making assumptions that some groups are more intelligent than other groups, without knowing that the item that you are accusing one group of being stupid about, is the very same thing that another group is doing.
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10-24-2005 13:05
From: Seth Kanahoe
Anne Rice doing Jesus? Literarily, that is...?

Philip Dick did it earlier. In Rautavaara’s Case,
the idea of Jesus is played around with by aliens working with the mind of a brain-damaged human astronaut they've rescued in space - as part of an experiment in religious psychology and an effort to bridge the communication gap. Jesus becomes an alien messiah who eats the flesh of his disciples and drinks their blood - a sort of Lestat from another world - and the way in which the aliens perceive their own savior. But things do not turn out the way the aliens planned....


My personal favorite scifi foray into Christianity is Michael Moorcock's Behold The Man. It's about a scientist's assistant who can't seem to believe any of the popular religious myths but desperately wants to find some kind of faith. He steals his boss's newly invented time machine and goes back in time to witness the important events of Jesus. As circumstances would have it he ends up accidentally becoming the historical Jesus. Hilarity ensues.
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10-24-2005 13:09
From: Aaron Levy
Christianity -- the only world religion that is acceptable to bash. Can't bash Muslims, or Hindus or Jews... can't even bash atheists... but Christians... sure... open season on them.

Why? Why is it ACCEPTABLE to bash Christians and NOT ACCEPTABLE to bash every other religious group in the world?


I guess cause you aren't in India. For real fun, watch the Hindus and the Muslims go after each other.
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10-24-2005 15:10
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