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Nolan Nash
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03-21-2006 11:24
So who the hell appointed us to lead the world?

That type of attitude is no better than saying "Well Billy is bigger than you, so he gets to pick on whoever he likes, and if you don't like it, Billy will beat your ass."

It's fucking pathetic, and people who support such a mindset will lead us into another World War, and history will show us as the bad guy. Short-sighted, adult-aged adolescents.

Great.

Thanks fellow "Americans".

Paulie, your comments are not only those of a common thug, but of a sexist as well.

Welcome to Rome redux, I hope you people are happy when it collapses because of your testosterone-addled ideology.

And no, I am not a democrat, I am very much centrist, so save it. You don't have to be a "lefty" to realize the folly of that type of thinking.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 11:24
From: Adara Ambassador
This is the last time I will reply to you conversations with you are in general worthless.

Bush is a terrorist *is* a radical view point.
People who support Bush are traitors *is* a radical view point.

You don't have a single leg to stand on. And your rantings are so far left and often blindly partisan adhering your own ideology.

Kendra, do you have any support base besides this forum? Is there a website sponsored by some political action committee supporting your radical ideology? Do you have a circle of friends who think like you? Birds of a feather do flock together. What I don't understand is how you convince yourself that your radical bullshit is right.

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whatever, Admiral. I don't care :D

Terrorism is defined as:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

So --Bush is a terrorist.

Supporting a Terrorist leader who subverts our Nation's laws for his own power is treasonous.

I make zero apologies for my statements and what is now considered "far-left" was at one time considered the height of patriotism.

I don't expect you to understand me yet, Admiral. Hopefully you will understand me before it's too late.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 11:25
From: Nolan Nash
And no, I am not a democrat, I am very much centrist, so save it. You don't have to be a "lefty" to realize the folly of that type of thinking.



In the end I believe that Bush will be the "Uniter and not Divider" he claimed to be. Just not in the way he envisioned. :D
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Nolan Nash
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03-21-2006 11:30
From: Kendra Bancroft
In the end I believe that Bush will be the "Uniter and not Divider" he claimed to be. Just not in the way he envisioned. :D

We can but hope.
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03-21-2006 11:34
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Did anyone see Bush's news conference a little while ago? Helen Thomas totally pwned Bush! I can't find any links yet to her question and his response, but I totally died laughing watching Bush squirm. :)


Boy George W. Bush at his best

It was a riot watching him squirm and twist when asked truthful questions. Boy George W. Bush's answers were as usual, stupid, dumb and proved his incompetence.
PetGirl Bergman
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03-21-2006 11:35
Cant LL start a part as the Korean / Japanese / German special threads...

Making one called USA politic threads or something.. or better.. for threads like this...

Please....

/Tina - living in a free democratic country... without USA bases...
Zonax Delorean
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03-21-2006 11:38
From: Adara Ambassador
Our occupation of Iraq is a strategic move that secures a safer future for the rest of the world.


I was safe until the US politicians started pissing of arabs.
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Chip Midnight
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03-21-2006 11:41
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if you can’t see Iran as a problem in the future if they don’t stop pursuing nuclear weapons you should have stopped reading long ago.


Iran is a problem that will take care of itself as long as we don't pull our usual cowboy shit and alienate Iran's youth. Young people in Iran are very progressive and very pro west. Part of what's happening in Iran right now is the older generation of hardliners trying to control their own population. They will age and die out and if we don't do something stupid (or I should say, anything else stupid), Iran won't be a hardline radical Islamic country for much longer. You should try to get over your xenophobia and adopt a longer view.
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Magnum Serpentine
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03-21-2006 11:42
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No, I don't. But I tend to not see points made by radical liberal's such as yourself who thinks anyone who supports Bush is a terrorist. Go troll elsewhere Libby.

-AA



OMG

Well get this... Japan and Germany did not shoot at us after the war ended. Germany and Japan declared war on us... The United States, With no reason except to get Boy George W. Bush elected president in 2004, not only attacked Iraq with-out reason, but lied to come up with excuses to launch a bizzare and stupid pre-emptive war.

Guess Boy George W. Bush, the bible Thumping Liar, needed a war to get elected President in 2004...

can we say, Wag the dog?????
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03-21-2006 11:43
From: Chip Midnight
You should try to get over your xenophobia and adopt a longer view.


I'm xenaphobic :(

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03-21-2006 11:52
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Looking at the long term, i think the ends outweigh the means. The loss of life is for now at acceptable numbers.

I did not expect the Bush administration to layout a plan for strategic domination of the Middle East. But anyone that has studied American military history should have seen the obvious 'fringe benefit' of occupying Iraq.

It does not matter that Iraq did not attack us directly like Japan or Germany - what I was pointing out was our propensity of occupying countries for the long term regardless of who struck first. There are several countries that did not attack us but yet allows our military bases to occupy their soil.

And yes some country does HAVE to lead the world. It can't be the United Nations. The U.N. is a joke. The U.N. is a conglomerate of 3rd world countries who do nothing but leech off 1st world countries. Have any of you ever seen how the U.N. works? I doubt it. Can anyone tell me who chaired the commission of human rights during 2002? Or which country was put in charge of the non-proliferation committee?

Why should the most powerful country in history allow itself to be led by a group of 3rd world countries asking for handouts? Right now the United States of America is the 800LB gorilla in the worlds play ground. Much better than it being Russia, France, China or India.

-AA



First of all, the United Nations should be the organization to handle international disputes. I find it really funny that you believe that nations are not equal... They are.

As far as your questions... Cuba was leader of one, Angola was the other I believe and I have no problems with that. With the United States ran by Talibam Fundamentalist its a lot better if a Secular nation was in charge.,

And no, I do not believe the US should be the worlds policeman. Infact I think we should pull out and only be concerned with what happens inside OUR own borders.

And finally, I see nothing wrong with there being several super powers not just one fundamentalist state.
Magnum Serpentine
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03-21-2006 11:54
From: Kendra Bancroft
I think anyone who supports Bush is a "traitor". Bush is a "terrorist.

As far as your request goes? Nope. I live in America. Where do YOU live?



WOOT Preach it sister
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03-21-2006 11:58
From: Kendra Bancroft
See --there's this whole sticky thing about unprovoked attacking of other sovereign nations being a WAR CRIME.

That's fine if you're a Fascist Empire, but I'm American and I hold my country to higher standards than that.


Yep the repubniks keep forgetting that attacking another nation for no reason is a WAR CRIME. And the United States attacked Iraq for no reason at all.

The United Nations did not approve the attack. And we learned that the Bible Thumping Liar Boy George W. Bush lied about every thing when he made up his poor excuses to invade.
Magnum Serpentine
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03-21-2006 12:00
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This is the last time I will reply to you since conversations with you are in general worthless.

Bush is a terrorist *is* a radical view point.
People who support Bush are traitors *is* a radical view point.

You don't have a single leg to stand on. And your rantings are so far left and often blindly partisan adhering your own ideology.

Kendra, do you have any support base besides this forum? Is there a website sponsored by some political action committee supporting your radical ideology? Do you have a circle of friends who think like you? Birds of a feather do flock together. What I don't understand is how you convince yourself that your radical bullshit is right.

-AA



61% of America believes Boy George W. Bush is a Terrorist


Nuff Said
Surreal Farber
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03-21-2006 12:01
I wish we had elected a historian for President. Then maybe we could have learned something from the British Empire's failures in the Middle East. Oh wait, we failed to learn anything from the French's mess in Indochina (Vietnam). Nevermind.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 12:03
Here's a statement I wholeheartedly agree with. How do those who support our War in Iraq feel about it?

"If we don't have a clear vision of the military, if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world and nation building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road"
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03-21-2006 12:03
From: Chip Midnight
Iran is a problem that will take care of itself as long as we don't pull our usual cowboy shit and alienate Iran's youth. Young people in Iran are very progressive and very pro west. Part of what's happening in Iran right now is the older generation of hardliners trying to control their own population. They will age and die out and if we don't do something stupid (or I should say, anything else stupid), Iran won't be a hardline radical Islamic country for much longer. You should try to get over your xenophobia and adopt a longer view.



Chip

the problem is that the fundamentalist in Colorado and the Boy George W. Bush administration do not want the Iranian Youth to follow the European westernization, but their own Fundamentalist views.

Can't have the Iranian youth copying the French, Italians or Germans, they say.
Chip Midnight
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03-21-2006 12:04
From: Magnum Serpentine
the problem is that the fundamentalist in Colorado and the Boy George W. Bush administration do not want the Iranian Youth to follow the European westernization, but their own Fundamentalist views.


That's an excellent and very frightening point.
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Nolan Nash
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03-21-2006 12:16
From: Surreal Farber
I wish we had elected a historian for President. Then maybe we could have learned something from the British Empire's failures in the Middle East. Oh wait, we failed to learn anything from the French's mess in Indochina (Vietnam). Nevermind.

Frame this one and hang it on the wall.

We could add a few other examples to that list too. We're doomed to the mistakes of the past if we carry on with this doctrine.
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03-21-2006 12:27
From: Nolan Nash
So who the hell appointed us to lead the world?

That type of attitude is no better than saying "Well Billy is bigger than you, so he gets to pick on whoever he likes, and if you don't like it, Billy will beat your ass."

It's fucking pathetic, and people who support such a mindset will lead us into another World War, and history will show us as the bad guy. Short-sighted, adult-aged adolescents.

Great.

Thanks fellow "Americans".

Paulie, your comments are not only those of a common thug, but of a sexist as well.

Welcome to Rome redux, I hope you people are happy when it collapses because of your testosterone-addled ideology.

And no, I am not a democrat, I am very much centrist, so save it. You don't have to be a "lefty" to realize the folly of that type of thinking.


I find it pathetic that you could want any country other than America to lead the world. The fact of the matter is that the U.S. is leading the world by default. What can Russia do besides imprison their oil barrons and take over the capitalist businesses earning too much money?

You really need to brush up on your Plato.. The old adage 'might makes right' works best.

Justice is the advantage of the stronger -Thrasymachus. And herstory is replete with examples.

-AA
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03-21-2006 12:28
From: Magnum Serpentine

The United Nations did not approve the attack. And we learned that the Bible Thumping Liar Boy George W. Bush lied about every thing when he made up his poor excuses to invade.


So we only act when the United Nations approves it?

I didnt vote for a single person in the U.N. to have any say in our countries politics.

The U.N. is a house of cards, it will fall soon. Thankfully #43 has sidelined that defunct organization.

-AA
Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 12:31
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So we only act when the United Nations approves it?

I didnt vote for a single person in the U.N. to have any say in our countries politics.

The U.N. is a house of cards, it will fall soon. Thankfully #43 has sidelined that defunct organization.

-AA



Why do you want America to fail?
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03-21-2006 12:31
From: Magnum Serpentine
First of all, the United Nations should be the organization to handle international disputes. I find it really funny that you believe that nations are not equal... They are.


I hardly think a third world country with an average yearly income (per person) of $350 dollars is equal to us.

I've actually been to the U.N. twice with my college as a "Model U.N. representative" in New York. Nations are innately unequal. U.N. tries to make things equal, but its kinda hard when 33 out of 36 countries appoints Libya to monitor human rights.

-AA
Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 12:35
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I hardly think a third world country with an average yearly income (per person) of $350 dollars is equal to us.

I've actually been to the U.S. twice with my college as a "Model U.N. representative" in New York. Nations are innately unequal. U.N. tries to make things equal, but its kinda hard when 33 out of 36 countries appoints Libya to monitor human rights.

-AA



I think you mean U.N. dear. This post makes it sound like you're some sort of disgusting foreigner.
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03-21-2006 12:36
Well, this conversation is over. I have said my part and stand by it.

These forums have a plethora of Lefty, Centrist Liberals. Thank goodness most of you monkey's probably did not vote.

-AA
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