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05-30-2006 11:17

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05-30-2006 15:36

From: Cristiano Midnight

Yesterday I had an experience with a food delivery person that ended up freaking me out a bit, and pissed me off more than anything. I live in a hirise where you have to buzz people in - in my building, I actually have to buzz them in twice - once into the garage and once into the building, so it is not a case where someone can just walk up to the building and come in.

I ordered lunch from a place I order from all the time, and about 45 minutes later the delivery person delivered it. Nothing unusual so far. I had seen the guy once or twice before, and he had always been nice and never said anything out of the ordinary. I paid him for the food, said goodbye, and he left, nothing unusual.

About 10 minutes later, there was a knock on my door.<snipped for length>

The thing that bothered me the most about it wasn't that he was preaching about his religion to me (which was annoying enough). It was that he lurked in my building after delivering the food to me and actually came back. If he had gone out to his car, I would have had to buzz him back into the building, so it means he didn't even go out of the building. I'm not sure what he was doing for 10 minutes, but it creeps me out.

Additionally, when he would not leave when I asked, it amounted to harassment at that point. The reason I asked him to leave is I actually felt unsafe because he was acting so strangely. I don't know the man, have no idea if he is some psychopathic zealot with a gun or something, who knows. The fact that he just kept on talking and insisting I open the door just made it worse. It probably sounds silly, but it did freak me out.

Anyway, thank you for indulging my rant.

You might want to report this to your local cop shop, hon -- when they're that loopy, there's no telling what they'll do.

And the owner of the delivery place really should fire him, and stronglty suggest to his family that they need to take him in for a psych workup.

It's the delusionals like this that turn into whacks like this Muhammad guy that was just convicted for being the DC/MD/VA sniper.

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strangers at the door.

05-31-2006 08:10

Whoever wouldn't open the door for the guy but then found out he was handicapped and would have needs to re-think that. Alot of criminals are handicapped..

If I get a bad feeling that door doesn't open, and I make sure my pistol is close by in case they come back.

I had some poor Jehovah witnesses nearly in tears when I told them that book they were holding didn't really mean much to me since it was comissioned by a king and we know how honest those guys are.

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05-31-2006 08:44

Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons:

1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries?
2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?)
3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?)
4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't?
5. Does this guy do it to every delivery?

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Kristen Coledale

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05-31-2006 08:54

Well, to be honest, AS a believer myself, I really dont think that God would have called him to do such a thing! I dont believe that God directs his followers to run around acting like weirdos & scaring, or harrassing ppl. It sounds to me that he may just be seriously misguided. This kind of thing REALLY bothers me, bc it reflects on all of us, and I would never behave like that! There is a large difference between being an example by your ways, and shoving it in someone's face in a creepy kind of way!

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05-31-2006 11:08

From: Hiro Pendragon

Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons:

1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries?
2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?)
3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?)
4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't?
5. Does this guy do it to every delivery?

Those ten minutes prior to his return mighta been spent preaching to someone else.

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05-31-2006 12:21

From: Hiro Pendragon

Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons:

1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries?
2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?)
3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?)
4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't?
5. Does this guy do it to every delivery?

1) I'm not sure, I would imagine so.
2) I spoke with two different managers, and both reacted the same way - they apologized, but basically said he was harmless and it was not a big deal. I am still trying to get in touch with the owner.
3) I live in a hirise, there was no trash for him to go through unless he went and did some dumpster diving. What he would discover is I eat way too much takeout food.
4) Something I said or did? Well I did pay with my Bank of Sodom Visa card, and I suggested we could work out his tip in trade and winked at him. Other than that, nope.

WTF, I just answered, said hello, got my food, and said thank you and to have a nice day.
5) The restaurant said they have never had any other complaints about him.

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05-31-2006 14:24

From: Cristiano Midnight

I love that Cory's bad grammar has caused an entire side argument in this thread.

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06-01-2006 11:02

From: Cory Edo

I JUST FOUND THE DAMN THING ON THE INTERNET PEOPLE I DIDN'T MAKE IT

ALL OF THOUEST BE NUTS

Hahaha, this is why I love the forums. The good times far outweight the drama.

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06-01-2006 11:08

From: nimrod Yaffle

Hahaha, this is why I love the forums. The good times far outweight the drama.

You just made that up. Show me the hard data to back up this spurious claim.

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06-01-2006 11:28

From: Gabe Lippmann

You just made that up. Show me the hard data to back up this spurious claim.

I'm still waiting on the corner, how long will I have to stand here?

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06-01-2006 11:54

From: Salzie Sachertorte

Snicker

I've noticed that the Born Agains don't consider Catholics to be Christian. Whenever I'm asked by one of them to find Jesus, I patiently explain that we Catholics never lost him.

ROFLMAO!

No, but the early Church kind of "mislaid" him after Nicaea -- they got too impressed with power. And the Protestants persist in thinking that everyone else is seriously misinformed about his personality, ethics, and intentions.

And the Romans apparently "mislaid" him when they allowed a burial -- judging from the blood evidence on the shroud in Turin, whoever was buried in it was still bleeding, and therefore still alive.

Having been subjected to Catholic schools during childhood, and done alot of historical research since then, I'm now a born-again pagan. I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots.

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06-01-2006 11:55

From: Toni Bentham

Right, but it's people who are insecure who pick beliefs like that to blindly follow. Not being tolerant of others is all about insecurity, not security.

Read Eric Hoffer's THE TRUE BELIEVER -- pub'd 1951 -- one of the greatest analyses of abnormal social psychology ever written. It should be required reading for anyone over 12 years old.

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Get it in writing, document this guy!

06-01-2006 11:56

I think that calling the owner is a good thing but that writing a letter, w/a CC to the local police station might be a better idea. Text documentation is one thing, but something that will go (hopefully) in this deliverer of dreck's personell file might be better, as if/when another complaint comes in, regardless of who the manager/cop on duty is, they'll have a hard copy showing a prior incident.

A letter might have a better chance of getting through to the owner than a phone call, if you can find out what their name is, and to that end, I'd suggest having someone call from a phone that's not one you've used for ordering. More than likely they've got a data base/caller ID setup and they're screening the calls. Just do the b to b fake call voice and breeze past the gate keepers' objections to at least get the name of the owner and most likely time they'll be in the store. I'd mail the letter, and follow up a few days later w/a call. And if you're feeling generous to the effort, send a registered letter. Then they'll have to sign for it! (I can be evil, it's true, but only in the service of non-theistic pursuits)

As far as what he was doing for 10 minutes, 2 immediate and not necesarrily exclusive ideas pop to mind.

1. knocking on other doors, irritating/freaking out your neighbors
2. having an onanistic moment of prayer in the fire stairs or someplace secluded

In any case, he was on the clock, not welcome and wholly inappropriate regardless of where one stands on/about/with the concept of "the lord" and food delivery.

I found that I could get the campus zealots to leave me alone by proudly stating "I'm the heathen your mother warned you about!" and continuing to walk on or shutting the door in their faces with an evil laugh.

Felt good and took a minimum of my time to remove them from my prescence. Oh, and know that this was reserved only for those that wouldn't take a polite "no thanks, not my bag" as a clue to move on to the next vicitim.

I really like the empty shot gun idea, as much as that'd be an issue w/the CPD (Chicago Police Dept.), but maybe a recording of such, or big dog barking, etc. might help? Oh and "finding" the statue of Jesus is priceless as well as the door hanger! (Shouldn't that be nailed on, through the ... I won't say it ... being bad, as I am a heathen!)

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06-01-2006 12:01

I was once advised by proselytizers at my door that they were "on fire for Jesus" and that it was a much better feeling than burning in hell, as I would (I have a woodburnt plank that says "park your broom here" and a pentacle on it that hangs on my door, proclaiming my faith and waiving off these types normally).

So I grabbed my fire extinquisher and promptly put them out.

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06-01-2006 12:30

From: Merlyn Bailly

I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots.

If I remember correctly, you seem to think that of a whole lot of people, no?

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06-01-2006 12:38

From: Merlyn Bailly

I'm now a born-again pagan. I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots.

So, you can't belive that one invisible spirit-being-thing exists, and anyone who does is an idiot, but many invisible spirit-being-things are acceptable?

Just checking.

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06-01-2006 12:56

Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked).

So Mer's statement seems a bit off.

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06-01-2006 12:57

From: Corvus Drake

Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked).

So Mer's statement seems a bit off.

Considering I was pagan before I converted to Christianity, I actually find myself in agreement with you for once

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06-01-2006 21:28

I'm a delivery guy. You know, the big brown truck? In over a decade of knocking on people's doors only once has somebody tried to tell me about Jesus. The exchange went something like this:

Old Guy: Do you know Jesus?

Me: <smile> I'm a Buddhist.

Old Guy: Buddha won't get you into heaven.

Me: Yeah, but that's only as far as Jesus can get you.

He gave me the oddest look.

Anybody in modern America who thinks that there are other people who haven't been exposed to Christianity is delusional. I'm always stunned by their absolute conviction that they have discovered something no one else has. So very bizarre.

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06-01-2006 21:57

From: Corvus Drake

Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked).

So Mer's statement seems a bit off.

I hope you are not speaking of Lavey Satanism. Because that would be very inaccurate.

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06-02-2006 01:10

wow.. that is very scary Cris...
It is certainly time for a dog...with my husband at work all day and my son at school... my German Shepherd is the only thing that makes me feel safe in this big house all alone...
Hell it might even be time to move... if someone is lurking around in your SECURED building for 10 minutes... thats just scary!

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06-02-2006 09:30

From: Neurosis Darkes

I hope you are not speaking of Lavey Satanism. Because that would be very inaccurate.

Obviously I'm not, as LaVeyan Satanism doesn't follow the Christian Satan.

Neo-Pagans tend to encounter the cult to which I'm referring more than most, because they pervert some rituals that are used by Neo-Pagans, particularly the Great Rite.

The Great Rite is essentially a fertility ritual. For religious purposes, two people actually copulate, usually a couple trying to get pregnant. It's a rather beautiful ritual that traditionally requires a coven, but has been adapted for private use.

The Black Rite is this cult's version of the same. Instead, there is often bloodletting and the High Priest (sometimes the High Daemon in modern cult practice) usually participates in a sexual act that involves the daughter of a male member of the cult, usually a girl of around 14, with the intent to impregnate her (generally, the father himself is actually the person impregnating her). The children created are considered infused with Satan's dark spirit, the young girls are convinced they've done a great thing for Satan, and male children are raised incestuously as a form of sinful practice. Women are generally considered the subservient sex.

That's very, very different from LaVeyan Satanism, which primarily uses the term "Satan" to represent its literal meaning, "adversary". That form of Satanism is really more a humanist philosophical movement.

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Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	05-30-2006 11:17 From: Ulrika Zugzwang What's the difference between a Ferrari and a pile of dead proselytizers? I don't have a Ferrari in my garage. ~Ulrika~ Friends help friends move, good friends help friends move bodies, let me know when it gets too smelly. . _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
Merlyn Bailly owner, AVALON GALLERIA Join date: 7 Sep 2005 Posts: 576	05-30-2006 15:36 From: Cristiano Midnight Yesterday I had an experience with a food delivery person that ended up freaking me out a bit, and pissed me off more than anything. I live in a hirise where you have to buzz people in - in my building, I actually have to buzz them in twice - once into the garage and once into the building, so it is not a case where someone can just walk up to the building and come in. I ordered lunch from a place I order from all the time, and about 45 minutes later the delivery person delivered it. Nothing unusual so far. I had seen the guy once or twice before, and he had always been nice and never said anything out of the ordinary. I paid him for the food, said goodbye, and he left, nothing unusual. About 10 minutes later, there was a knock on my door.<snipped for length> The thing that bothered me the most about it wasn't that he was preaching about his religion to me (which was annoying enough). It was that he lurked in my building after delivering the food to me and actually came back. If he had gone out to his car, I would have had to buzz him back into the building, so it means he didn't even go out of the building. I'm not sure what he was doing for 10 minutes, but it creeps me out. Additionally, when he would not leave when I asked, it amounted to harassment at that point. The reason I asked him to leave is I actually felt unsafe because he was acting so strangely. I don't know the man, have no idea if he is some psychopathic zealot with a gun or something, who knows. The fact that he just kept on talking and insisting I open the door just made it worse. It probably sounds silly, but it did freak me out. Anyway, thank you for indulging my rant. You might want to report this to your local cop shop, hon -- when they're that loopy, there's no telling what they'll do. And the owner of the delivery place really should fire him, and stronglty suggest to his family that they need to take him in for a psych workup. It's the delusionals like this that turn into whacks like this Muhammad guy that was just convicted for being the DC/MD/VA sniper. _____________________ SL used to be a game -- now it's a corporate advertising/marketing platform.
Zalandria Zaius Registered User Join date: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 277	strangers at the door. 05-31-2006 08:10 Whoever wouldn't open the door for the guy but then found out he was handicapped and would have needs to re-think that. Alot of criminals are handicapped.. If I get a bad feeling that door doesn't open, and I make sure my pistol is close by in case they come back. I had some poor Jehovah witnesses nearly in tears when I told them that book they were holding didn't really mean much to me since it was comissioned by a king and we know how honest those guys are.
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	05-31-2006 08:44 Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons: 1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries? 2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?) 3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?) 4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't? 5. Does this guy do it to every delivery? _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
Kristen Coledale Registered User Join date: 25 May 2006 Posts: 3	hmm 05-31-2006 08:54 Well, to be honest, AS a believer myself, I really dont think that God would have called him to do such a thing! I dont believe that God directs his followers to run around acting like weirdos & scaring, or harrassing ppl. It sounds to me that he may just be seriously misguided. This kind of thing REALLY bothers me, bc it reflects on all of us, and I would never behave like that! There is a large difference between being an example by your ways, and shoving it in someone's face in a creepy kind of way!
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	05-31-2006 11:08 From: Hiro Pendragon Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons: 1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries? 2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?) 3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?) 4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't? 5. Does this guy do it to every delivery? Those ten minutes prior to his return mighta been spent preaching to someone else. _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	05-31-2006 12:21 From: Hiro Pendragon Cristiano, the 10 minutes thing bothers me, too, for a variety of reasons: 1. Didn't this guy have other deliveries? 2. Why wasn't the manager upset on the phone that this delivery guy was doing this on their time? (was he just really cool headed?) 3. What was he doing in the 10 minutes? (the praying theory is pretty good, but was it something else? Was he rummaging through trash for evidence that you were a "heathen"?) 4. Why did he say you needed to accept Jesus, and not ask if you have? Was there anything you said or did that might lead him to think you weren't? 5. Does this guy do it to every delivery? 1) I'm not sure, I would imagine so. 2) I spoke with two different managers, and both reacted the same way - they apologized, but basically said he was harmless and it was not a big deal. I am still trying to get in touch with the owner. 3) I live in a hirise, there was no trash for him to go through unless he went and did some dumpster diving. What he would discover is I eat way too much takeout food. 4) Something I said or did? Well I did pay with my Bank of Sodom Visa card, and I suggested we could work out his tip in trade and winked at him. Other than that, nope. WTF, I just answered, said hello, got my food, and said thank you and to have a nice day. 5) The restaurant said they have never had any other complaints about him. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
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nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	06-01-2006 11:02 From: Cory Edo I JUST FOUND THE DAMN THING ON THE INTERNET PEOPLE I DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL OF THOUEST BE NUTS Hahaha, this is why I love the forums. The good times far outweight the drama. _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Gabe Lippmann "Phone's ringing, Dude." Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 4,219	06-01-2006 11:08 From: nimrod Yaffle Hahaha, this is why I love the forums. The good times far outweight the drama. You just made that up. Show me the hard data to back up this spurious claim. _____________________ go to Nocturnal Threads
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	06-01-2006 11:28 From: Gabe Lippmann You just made that up. Show me the hard data to back up this spurious claim. I'm still waiting on the corner, how long will I have to stand here? _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Merlyn Bailly owner, AVALON GALLERIA Join date: 7 Sep 2005 Posts: 576	06-01-2006 11:54 From: Salzie Sachertorte Snicker I've noticed that the Born Agains don't consider Catholics to be Christian. Whenever I'm asked by one of them to find Jesus, I patiently explain that we Catholics never lost him. ROFLMAO! No, but the early Church kind of "mislaid" him after Nicaea -- they got too impressed with power. And the Protestants persist in thinking that everyone else is seriously misinformed about his personality, ethics, and intentions. And the Romans apparently "mislaid" him when they allowed a burial -- judging from the blood evidence on the shroud in Turin, whoever was buried in it was still bleeding, and therefore still alive. Having been subjected to Catholic schools during childhood, and done alot of historical research since then, I'm now a born-again pagan. I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots. _____________________ SL used to be a game -- now it's a corporate advertising/marketing platform.
Merlyn Bailly owner, AVALON GALLERIA Join date: 7 Sep 2005 Posts: 576	06-01-2006 11:55 From: Toni Bentham Right, but it's people who are insecure who pick beliefs like that to blindly follow. Not being tolerant of others is all about insecurity, not security. Read Eric Hoffer's THE TRUE BELIEVER -- pub'd 1951 -- one of the greatest analyses of abnormal social psychology ever written. It should be required reading for anyone over 12 years old. _____________________ SL used to be a game -- now it's a corporate advertising/marketing platform.
Madame Maracas Not who you think I am... Join date: 7 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,953	Get it in writing, document this guy! 06-01-2006 11:56 I think that calling the owner is a good thing but that writing a letter, w/a CC to the local police station might be a better idea. Text documentation is one thing, but something that will go (hopefully) in this deliverer of dreck's personell file might be better, as if/when another complaint comes in, regardless of who the manager/cop on duty is, they'll have a hard copy showing a prior incident. A letter might have a better chance of getting through to the owner than a phone call, if you can find out what their name is, and to that end, I'd suggest having someone call from a phone that's not one you've used for ordering. More than likely they've got a data base/caller ID setup and they're screening the calls. Just do the b to b fake call voice and breeze past the gate keepers' objections to at least get the name of the owner and most likely time they'll be in the store. I'd mail the letter, and follow up a few days later w/a call. And if you're feeling generous to the effort, send a registered letter. Then they'll have to sign for it! (I can be evil, it's true, but only in the service of non-theistic pursuits) As far as what he was doing for 10 minutes, 2 immediate and not necesarrily exclusive ideas pop to mind. 1. knocking on other doors, irritating/freaking out your neighbors 2. having an onanistic moment of prayer in the fire stairs or someplace secluded In any case, he was on the clock, not welcome and wholly inappropriate regardless of where one stands on/about/with the concept of "the lord" and food delivery. I found that I could get the campus zealots to leave me alone by proudly stating "I'm the heathen your mother warned you about!" and continuing to walk on or shutting the door in their faces with an evil laugh. Felt good and took a minimum of my time to remove them from my prescence. Oh, and know that this was reserved only for those that wouldn't take a polite "no thanks, not my bag" as a clue to move on to the next vicitim. I really like the empty shot gun idea, as much as that'd be an issue w/the CPD (Chicago Police Dept.), but maybe a recording of such, or big dog barking, etc. might help? Oh and "finding" the statue of Jesus is priceless as well as the door hanger! (Shouldn't that be nailed on, through the ... I won't say it ... being bad, as I am a heathen!) _____________________ RadioRadio - http://radioradiosl.com M 6 Hobbes Abattoir T 7 Sezmra Svorag W 4 Brian Mason W 6 Moira Stern W 8 Nala Galatea Th 6 Chet Neurocam F 6 Vertigo Paris F 9 Madame Maracas S 5 Madame Maracas S 8 TriNala Su 6 Trinity Serpentine http://madamemaracas.wordpress.com - Madame Maracas Blaaagh Plurk - http://www.plurk.com/user/MadameMaracas
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	06-01-2006 12:01 I was once advised by proselytizers at my door that they were "on fire for Jesus" and that it was a much better feeling than burning in hell, as I would (I have a woodburnt plank that says "park your broom here" and a pentacle on it that hangs on my door, proclaiming my faith and waiving off these types normally). So I grabbed my fire extinquisher and promptly put them out. _____________________ I started getting banned from Gorean sims, so now I hang out in a tent called "Fort Awesome".
Lorelei Patel was here Join date: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,940	06-01-2006 12:30 From: Merlyn Bailly I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots. If I remember correctly, you seem to think that of a whole lot of people, no? _____________________ ============ Broadly offensive.
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-01-2006 12:38 From: Merlyn Bailly I'm now a born-again pagan. I think all monotheists, of all creeds, are idiots. So, you can't belive that one invisible spirit-being-thing exists, and anyone who does is an idiot, but many invisible spirit-being-things are acceptable? Just checking. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	06-01-2006 12:56 Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked). So Mer's statement seems a bit off. _____________________ I started getting banned from Gorean sims, so now I hang out in a tent called "Fort Awesome".
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-01-2006 12:57 From: Corvus Drake Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked). So Mer's statement seems a bit off. Considering I was pagan before I converted to Christianity, I actually find myself in agreement with you for once _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Michael Seraph Second Life Resident Join date: 9 Nov 2004 Posts: 849	06-01-2006 21:28 I'm a delivery guy. You know, the big brown truck? In over a decade of knocking on people's doors only once has somebody tried to tell me about Jesus. The exchange went something like this: Old Guy: Do you know Jesus? Me: <smile> I'm a Buddhist. Old Guy: Buddha won't get you into heaven. Me: Yeah, but that's only as far as Jesus can get you. He gave me the oddest look. Anybody in modern America who thinks that there are other people who haven't been exposed to Christianity is delusional. I'm always stunned by their absolute conviction that they have discovered something no one else has. So very bizarre.
Neurosis Darkes Registered User Join date: 12 May 2006 Posts: 49	06-01-2006 21:57 From: Corvus Drake Interestingly, most Pagans (myself included) believe that all beliefs in a higher power are facets of the same supreme being (excepting, perhaps, that one cult that follows the Christian Satan and rapes their daughters. Those guys are just fucked). So Mer's statement seems a bit off. I hope you are not speaking of Lavey Satanism. Because that would be very inaccurate.
Sensual Casanova Spoiled Brat Join date: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 4,807	06-02-2006 01:10 wow.. that is very scary Cris... It is certainly time for a dog...with my husband at work all day and my son at school... my German Shepherd is the only thing that makes me feel safe in this big house all alone... Hell it might even be time to move... if someone is lurking around in your SECURED building for 10 minutes... thats just scary! _____________________ Sensual Designs & Animations Sensual Productions Teleport to Sensual Designs & Animations
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	06-02-2006 09:30 From: Neurosis Darkes I hope you are not speaking of Lavey Satanism. Because that would be very inaccurate. Obviously I'm not, as LaVeyan Satanism doesn't follow the Christian Satan. Neo-Pagans tend to encounter the cult to which I'm referring more than most, because they pervert some rituals that are used by Neo-Pagans, particularly the Great Rite. The Great Rite is essentially a fertility ritual. For religious purposes, two people actually copulate, usually a couple trying to get pregnant. It's a rather beautiful ritual that traditionally requires a coven, but has been adapted for private use. The Black Rite is this cult's version of the same. Instead, there is often bloodletting and the High Priest (sometimes the High Daemon in modern cult practice) usually participates in a sexual act that involves the daughter of a male member of the cult, usually a girl of around 14, with the intent to impregnate her (generally, the father himself is actually the person impregnating her). The children created are considered infused with Satan's dark spirit, the young girls are convinced they've done a great thing for Satan, and male children are raised incestuously as a form of sinful practice. Women are generally considered the subservient sex. That's very, very different from LaVeyan Satanism, which primarily uses the term "Satan" to represent its literal meaning, "adversary". That form of Satanism is really more a humanist philosophical movement. _____________________ I started getting banned from Gorean sims, so now I hang out in a tent called "Fort Awesome".

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