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SL runs a slow as hell-pls help!

Taliesen Farina
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 5
09-13-2005 16:54
All righty, I shall give that a try. And currently I have the Omega drivers in it, now. I haven't had any large parties pop up to test it, but I'm going to give it a shot when I log back in. Thank you tons for the help and suggestions.
Troy Burleigh
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Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 1
09-13-2005 20:04
It seems that everyone is having choppy problems is using a laptop. I am having the same problem here... I have a laptop and a desktop. The laptop has a hell of a lot better specs than my desktop. But the game, runs 349583495 times better on my desktop
Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
Posts: 1,418
09-13-2005 20:33
Unless you have a laptop specifically made as a gaming machine ie Alienware for instance, gaming is a cludge at best. A full spec. 6800ultra video card in a desktop is huge and generates a lot of heat and it taxes my 500watt power supply. Trying to get that crammed into a tiny laptop and still have enough power for the laptop to run more than a few minutes on battery is quite the challenge. Because laptops are so intigrated and basically custom built , the laptop motherboard most likely a couple of years behind technology in all but the most expensive systems.
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Hye Bachman
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Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 4
Same problem on my desktop
09-13-2005 22:01
I have a desktop which should run SL with some laughter :

It's an AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (runs at 2.211Ghz but it'll kick your P4 3.4's ass)
1024MB RAM
GeForce 6800GT (stock overclock)
on Windows XP Pro SP2
Brand new drivers for the GeForce.
DirectX 9.0c.
Everything I'm using now is current release (no betas or alphas).

Here at school, where I'm currently playing, we have a fiberoptic connection that usually connects to the outside pipes at about 200-400kbps but is capable of 1gbps (no one serves that outside of network though).

Cocky as I am, I set all the settings in the game to nearly as high they go before I ever even started playing. Anisotropic, shadows, details, etc... I got into the newbie area, and nothing was moving. I type something and then... 10 - 15... seconds... later... it... appears. If i move forward for awhile, I'm teleported about 100m away after about a minute. It's crazy.

So, i changed everything, all of the settings, way down (even draw dist. is at 40m). And it still runs sooo slow. In fact, nothing changed speed-wise at all. It's terribly unplayable.
This shouln't be an issue as I have been playing Guild Wars, OZ, Maple Story, Supreme Destiny, Ferentus.... so many online games that still have a medium-high demand of video/hardware at full res (with antialiasing at x8 for guild wars). With these, I get average frame rates well above 40fps at all times. And some of them are still in beta.

So, has lowering the options for graphics helped anyone else?
Is there a topic about this that I missed?
Is everyone who's having this issue (or similar) connecting at work, at home, or at school?
If they're at home are they running any hardware firewalls (router etc...)?
Could there be a main port that's being blocked?

I'm going to try to give SL a DEP pass in my main settings (SP2 issue I've seen in beta testing). Also, I'm going to make sure firewall passes all SL associated files and etc...

Please let me know if you have this problem and a similar setup.
And, unless the issue's been solved elsewhere, let's see if we can figure out where the problem lies...

2 things I forgot... I'm running .net framework, are you guys?
Also, in task manager, the SL executable is taking 99% of my processor and never drops below 80%. I dunno why it would do that?

Thanks everyone,
Hye Bachman

Updated: I don't know how to view framerate ( if it is ingame) but I know that I'm getting bandwidth of 4kbps - 15kbps and that's not so good. I'm wired, firewalls are all off and I'm still getting 3-15.

Could the problem lie in my connection through the college?
Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
Posts: 1,418
09-13-2005 22:45
Right now I am on the flying bridge of Jumpda Shark's yacht in Furnation Alpha (7,23) and I am getting 45 fps looking out to the empty sea facing west. facing north which is heavily built it drops to 23fps. Turning east tward the sandbox and a lot of avatars it drops to 19fps and looking south which is lightly built it raises back to 26fps. Furnation Alpha has 13 avatars, Furnation Prime has 30 so my frame rate is really, really good considering.

My specs:

AMD 4400+ X2 duel core processor
2 gig Corsair pro memory
Asus A8n-SLI Motherboard
XFX 6800 Ultra 512m
250 gig SATA2 HD

Latest drivers on everything

My settings:

Video: 1024x748 32 bit color on a 21" CRT monitor 75hz

Video settings:

High Quality
Antialaising 4x
Anistropic filtering 8x
Verticle Sync on

Second Life Settings:

Anastopic filtering on
Disable Farclip
Shiny
the rest off

Avatar Vertex on
Draw Distance 160
Fog 4.0
Drop Distance 0
Bump Distance 8



Ok with new settings which look like crap I am getting 56fps West, 41 North, 50 east and 51fps looking south.

Performance
Antialaising off
Anistropic filtering off
Verticle sync off


SL:

Anastropic filtering off
Shiny off
Disable Farclip on
The rest off

terrain some
Draw distance 128
Fog 1.4


Frames per Second can be seen by bringing up the Statistics bar ctrl+shift+1 or Top Menu>View>Statistics bar
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Richie Waves
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Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
09-14-2005 06:12
as Video lindens Tshirt puts it..lag happens..no matter what your specs I put everything up as high as they go exept Draw distance. I leave that at 64 unless Im taking snaps then I go 512 and bare the lag while I get shots..

It really has nothing to do with the video settings on my PC..Draw and Local lighting are the only things that effect framerate (radion 9800xt 256mb, 1gbram 400mhzDuel channel, 2.8ghz P4 800mhz, Asus P4C800E delux mobo 3mb up 1 down line) SL looks seriosly beautiful at the highest settings. I simply couldnt lower them..
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Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
Posts: 1,418
09-14-2005 11:23
Holy Moly! You are getting dial up speeds on your connection. No wonder you can't move. I'd say yeah, you are definitly throttled. SL needs at least a 200kbps connection to play well.
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Jesse Murdock
Moves You
Join date: 23 Jun 2004
Posts: 149
09-15-2005 00:57
From: Kathmandu Gilman
Holy Moly! You are getting dial up speeds on your connection. No wonder you can't move. I'd say yeah, you are definitly throttled. SL needs at least a 200kbps connection to play well.


I think He Meant he gets 100 Mb connection on his lan. Only way to check the actual DL speed would be to do a speed test, but it's easy to tell how good your connetion to SL is by using the statistics console(not sure if that's the proper term for it) which can be accessed by hitting control shift 1 but not the 1 on the numpad , has to be the 1 above the letters. access look in basic and see what the ping to the sim is and back. if it's in the low hundreds the connection is fine. If it's in the thousands, it is probably a firewall issue which is usually resolved by forwarding the correct ports in your router.
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Kathmandu Gilman
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09-15-2005 02:59
He's in a dorm with a shared connection, likely going to be residing in the SUCK for net speeds. 4-15kbps is even worse if that is the LAN speed.
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Hye Bachman
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Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 4
Lol.... guys guys guys....
09-16-2005 14:40
I did not mean 100MBit, I mean 1Gbit.... that's 1Gbit fiberoptics on the LAN. We're going through I2 (Internet two) pipes... they are huge. I ran a speed test and got between 800kbps and 1Mbps results with an aupload right around 500-200k each time. The "crap shared connection" works quite well with everything EXCEPT SL... thanks for your... comments though :)

DSL reports Speedtest result:
2005-09-14 22:58:15 Speed test @ dslreports-west1.speakeas 954/364 kbps
2005-09-14 22:55:23 Speed test @ ec 1051/292 kbps
Lizbeth Marlowe
The ORIGINAL "Demo Girl"
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 544
09-16-2005 15:05
From: Thili Playfair
Heh as far as this goes

PC/Windows:

* Computer: Pentium III 800MHZ or higher, with 256MB RAM or more
* Operating System: OS: Windows XP (sp2) / 2000 (sp4)
* Video Card: nVidia Geforce 2 (32MB RAM) or higher, or ATI Radeon 8500 (32MB RAM) or higher
* Internet Connection: DSL, cable modem or LAN (256kbps downstream or higher)

I was going to post awhile back thats no way in hell decent enough for SL to run on, not even close.

first
: 800mhz, more like 2500+
: ram ? 256 hah... try 1024 min
: video card... holy.. i mean who use 32mb vid card in SL can it even do squat?, min gforce 5+ 128-256 ram
(dont ask me about ati equalent)
: Dsl/cable 1 mbit min,
;)


I am sorry I just HAD to respond to this.

I run a 1.3mhz pentium
my ram is 512
I have an NVidia GeForce2 32mb card
I do have cable internet

I run SL with no problems...I get a little laggy when the sim is full of avs with attachments, but who doesn't?

I also run the game on my laptop

1.2mhz
Ram is 256
Integrated video card that I have no clue about
on a wireless connection to my cable internet
This one runs a little slower, than the other old pc, but I can PLAY this game.

Both Machines are Dell, as they came out of the box...

I do have more RAM coming for the desktop tho. I'll have 1GB in a day or two.
Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,416
09-16-2005 15:09
From: Hye Bachman
I did not mean 100MBit, I mean 1Gbit.... that's 1Gbit fiberoptics on the LAN. We're going through I2 (Internet two) pipes... they are huge. I ran a speed test and got between 800kbps and 1Mbps results with an aupload right around 500-200k each time. The "crap shared connection" works quite well with everything EXCEPT SL... thanks for your... comments though :)

DSL reports Speedtest result:
2005-09-14 22:58:15 Speed test @ dslreports-west1.speakeas 954/364 kbps
2005-09-14 22:55:23 Speed test @ ec 1051/292 kbps


Speed is nice. What about latency? That's the key.
Jesse Murdock
Moves You
Join date: 23 Jun 2004
Posts: 149
09-16-2005 15:54
I'd say definitely a frewall issue then, Did you open all the ports that LL recommends like 12020 - 13030 or something like that
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Kathmandu Gilman
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Join date: 21 May 2004
Posts: 1,418
09-16-2005 22:23
BTW, you aren't running a duel monitor setup are you?
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Hye Bachman
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Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 4
09-18-2005 19:50
Latency is the fun part.... I left a post under a different topic that seemed more suitable and more promising but it looks like it's been dead for awhile so I'll send a link to it here:
Let me know if this tells anyone anything?
/111/5a/58988/1.html

It's more about latency issues, ports opened or closed, speed issues, and there are some attached screenshots/a text file that might be more discriptive.
Thx again, all.
-Hye
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