Save YadNi s Junkyard from Dissapearing
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 08:43
Two months have passed with this texturing bug that does erratic results when you uncheck STRETCH TEXTURES and resize a prim... two months where i couldnt do my work in SL, that is, building sims for people, two months without any income and my money is running low, if this situation is not changed very soon, i wont be able to pay my land fees and the junkyard will have to be deleted. I was a night receptionnist in a hotel irl, but that hotel s been resold and the night employees fired and replaced by an atm room seller, i need to be able to build in SL if i want to continue paying for it, i have NO other choice.
MY PROPOSAL : Please everyone who reads this and who thinks my Junkyard shouldnt dissapear, build a cube with the basic texture plywood, uncheck the stretch texture option and resize the cube several times, if the texture does behave strangely, please BUG REPORT to the lindens MASSIVELY.
Thanks in advance for your help, hoping it will be useful...
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Giselle Christensen
Registered User
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 5
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10-12-2006 09:03
Did it, and reported.
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Psyra Extraordinaire
Corra Nacunda Chieftain
Join date: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 1,533
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10-12-2006 09:09
From: someone I was a night receptionnist in a hotel irl, but that hotel s been resold and the night employees fired and replaced by an atm room seller Technology is a double-edged sword. Half the times it makes life easier, and half the times it screws us outta an honest living.  On the texture topic..... Bugreported!
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Traven Sachs
Director of Operations
Join date: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 51
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Reported
10-12-2006 09:22
Bug Report Filed.
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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Great!
10-12-2006 09:27
Wonderful work my Friends!
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Lily Lioncourt
Dreamer in the Garden
Join date: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 18
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No Success
10-12-2006 09:28
I did it and tried every way I could to get it to screw up but it didn't - sorry.
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DLorn Fielding
Registered User
Join date: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 1
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10-12-2006 09:34
Will attempt said bug and report it shortly if anything goes wrong ^^
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Xenon Axon
Registered User
Join date: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1
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YadNi's Junkyard is a Landmark Worth Keeping
10-12-2006 09:43
I am at work now and can't do my texture test until tonight and then I will add my test & its anticipated result to the masses. I don't know how many newbies (including myself at one time) that have discovered SL through that junkyard. I never understood how you could keep it open as it was with all your freebies and $1 Compilations of 'junk', but I have introduced more newbies to your place than I can count. The lindens ought to give you your site gratis just for the service you provide to new players trying to figure out what SL is all about. I say it is a Landmark in the greater sense of the word. Please try to keep up the good work, it is appreciated by many many people and worth keeping alive.
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Seifert Surface
Mathematician
Join date: 14 Jun 2005
Posts: 912
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10-12-2006 10:21
Bug reported a couple of versions ago.
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Tagistopheles Basiat
Registered User
Join date: 20 May 2006
Posts: 1
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10-12-2006 10:46
Reported. The whole prim started vibrating and the texture itself tiled in all kinds of weird ways. You think they'd get on something like this...
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 10:51
This bug appeared when was released the SL version that allowed us to join up to 25 groups in the very beginning of Burning Life 2006 building...
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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10-12-2006 11:11
From: YadNi Monde ... two months where i couldnt do my work in SL, that is, building sims for people, two months without any income and my money is running low, if this situation is not changed very soon, i wont be able to pay my land fees and the junkyard will have to be deleted.... No personal offence here Yadni, but I think this is a bit of a "boo-hoo, why me?" story. You are using your so-called local fame to get action on a bug that bothers you, but it bothers everyone equally. The only difference is that there is a perception that the works that you do are some kind of great public value to second life. If someone building some corporate sim had the same post no one would care at all. I for one do *not* think that Yadni's Junkyard is worth saving at all. - What is the one-stop source for all the major griefer scripts? Yadni's! - What is the one stop source for all the guns and even the clothes that the griefers use when they assualt newbies in sandboxes? Yadni's! - Who is it that gathers and distirbutes poorly made oversized textures so that they can be used by newbies all over second life? Yadni's! If you spent even a second or two of your time sorting out the bad, laggy or illegal textures from the texture packs, or thought about possibly not being the central distributor of griefing material, or actually did something when a member of one of your groups attacked someone else, maybe I would be more upset about the possible passing of your "institution." In short if you ever once took any responsibility for any of your works, you might have a case for Yadni's being the altruistic friendly place that people mistake it as. You have made a lot of free junk available, great... so what? Lots of people have. You have also ensured that huge laggy textures will stay in the database and plague us for years to come. You have personally been responsible for putting the weapons into the hands of players that have cuased untold grief on the rest of us and made many others quit the game. To those who might argue that Yadni's merely makes no moral judgements at all I would point out that when you act without any kind of moral shading to your actions at all you do just as much damage as you do good.
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Fremont Cunningham
Senior Wizard
Join date: 15 May 2004
Posts: 48
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Yadni's Junk Yard is great!
10-12-2006 11:28
The greifing we all experienced in the past was NOT Yani's fault. The blame lies squarely on Linden Labs for allowing uncontrolled use of llPushObject. With the latest release of SL, llPushObject has finally been curbed by the No Push option. So griefers are mostly history, and the whole issue has little or nothing to do with Yadni's Junk Yard.
That Junk Yard is a valuable resource for SL beginners, and SL would be a poorer place if it went away.
Maybe Yadni is using his 'fame' to get action on a long-standing SL bug, but that's how RL works too, and it's not going to change any time soon.
Bottom line is that LL SHOULD BE FIXING BUGS! Not adding more buggy features, and if someone finds a better method to bring that point home to LL, more power too them!
Fremont Cunningham
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 11:35
Dianne you have a bad opinion of the Junkyard, very well, but you are not part of a majority, the Junkyard is mainly here to help people understand how to do things in SL and griefers can get their dirty hands on bad stuff in so many other places. All i wish is this post will move all the people that appreciate my service to bug report so we AT LAST get that fuc...g bug OUT OF THE WAY once and for good. And it wont help JUST ME, it will also help you. In fact, it will help everybody. And if the possible dissapearance of the junkyard can help for people to stand against a bug we all reported several times in two months, then, it s just another service the Junkyard will offer to the Community.
So if my so called "fame" can do something good about it, that s all i want that fame for.
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---------------=If It S Not Primmy It S Not A YadNi=---------------- -=In a MMORPG u levelup a Character, in SL u levelup the User.=- ----------------=Your only limit is Your imagination.=-------------- -------------------------------------------  Yours, Friendly, Yadni =) 
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 11:42
In other words, if all the 144 persons who read this thread for now did try to build a cube and uncheck stretch texture and resize the cube several times to see if they have a strange texture behavior and if all the ones who had one bug reported, then i feel i am using my fame in the best way possible!
A bon entendeur, Salut!!!
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---------------=If It S Not Primmy It S Not A YadNi=---------------- -=In a MMORPG u levelup a Character, in SL u levelup the User.=- ----------------=Your only limit is Your imagination.=-------------- -------------------------------------------  Yours, Friendly, Yadni =) 
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Jack Bain
Registered User
Join date: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 12
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10-12-2006 12:51
Dianne, you seriously need to get a clue, Yadni's has been around for a while, its helped me in alot of ways, and im sure not one of the grid attack came from Yadni's Junkyard... And even the weapons can do very little damamge because of the O'might bann button, I mean come on, theres is proabably 1 out of 100 people who misuse yadni's things, and he should be punished for that? I for one am supporting Yadni on this, and am going to report the bug, The Junkyard has helped thousands including me and I wish for it to stay that way.
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And another thing, I dont see how you can say that this is the source of all griefing, because if you read through the forums you will see that everyone is blaming the attacks on ''Unverifieds'' And now its Yadni's, Dont see where your going with this.
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Al Bravo
Retired
Join date: 29 Jun 2004
Posts: 373
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10-12-2006 13:13
YadNi,
Tried it a bunch of times, didn't have any issues at all. Wonder why it isn't consistently reproducible. I never use that feature. Why is it so important? I usually manually setup my textures (key values for sizing, rot, offset).
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Espresso Saarinen
old geek
Join date: 22 Jan 2006
Posts: 93
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10-12-2006 13:55
From: Dianne Mechanique No personal offence here Yadni, but I think this is a bit of a "boo-hoo, why me?" story. thank you for once again demonstrating that good deeds do not go unpunished. also enhancing the sl tradition for turning a bug into hateful drama. right on!
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Mara Anubis
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 2
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Stay
10-12-2006 14:08
Yadni,you have been a great source of content for ALL newbies entering SL...PLEASE stay alot of us need you and the Junkyard for what it stands for....Junkyard is a SL hostorical site and should be made so,God knows you put alot of man hours not to mention money into it  ... Yad let us help,all of us,is the donation box still out at the junkyard.....There is so many people who would be willing to help keep it.Don't listen to those who put down the yard as a source of crap to help disabling the grid,thats just plain garbage and we all know it,freebies are everywhere.... On a personal note,I joined SL over 2 years ago and one of the first places my bro and I went was to your junkyard,got us and thousands of others our start in SL Knowledge along with Library of Primitives....I am asking all those who read this to help Yad keep what should always be FREE, his place of help for all who wish to use and or access it  As for the bug,reproduced and bug reported  Yadni,on behalf of myself and alot of others we wish you the very best in keeping our Junkyard open  ...please outside of the bug reporting let us know what we all can do to help.... Your friend from day 1,Mara
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Nimue Galatea
я говорю по русски ;)
Join date: 24 May 2004
Posts: 517
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10-12-2006 16:02
Yadni, you have my support!
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Ashling Babka
Registered User
Join date: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 23
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10-12-2006 18:43
Yadni, Why did you feel it was important to bring up your jobless situation?
I am all for reporting bugs, and I will report this one for you (and the rest of us), but it DOES sound a bit like "Poor me" to bring up the fact you dont have a job outside of SecondLife... and that it seems like you are too lazy to put forth the effort to get one... if that is the only way you could support what you do in Second Life.
However, I do not take Dianne's stand about griefers... A gun supplier should not be held responsible for the bad actions of a few terrorist others.
.. and... perhaps if Yadni sold his packages for L$2 each, then he could afford to hire some workers who could sort out the bad/laggy textures from the good stuff. I'm sure some newbies would love the chance at an income, and be able to look at all the great "free" stuff at the same time.
Ashling
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 18:56
Ashling i dont ask for a judgement for my personnal real life qualities and flaws, i ask for help to try to change a thing, all together, if we can. And i have nothing more to tell you about this, just thanks for being so unpolite with me.
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---------------=If It S Not Primmy It S Not A YadNi=---------------- -=In a MMORPG u levelup a Character, in SL u levelup the User.=- ----------------=Your only limit is Your imagination.=-------------- -------------------------------------------  Yours, Friendly, Yadni =) 
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YadNi Monde
Junkyard Owner
Join date: 30 Mar 2004
Posts: 189
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10-12-2006 19:06
About the bug itself, strangely it doesnt happen to everybody, but it is not a majority it seems.
Thank you all for the support, i know the Junkyard is appreciated for what it is, and it is good to see i can ask for some help after almost three years of helping generations of New Players!
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---------------=If It S Not Primmy It S Not A YadNi=---------------- -=In a MMORPG u levelup a Character, in SL u levelup the User.=- ----------------=Your only limit is Your imagination.=-------------- -------------------------------------------  Yours, Friendly, Yadni =) 
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Kimi Ayakashi
Registered User
Join date: 19 Aug 2006
Posts: 15
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10-12-2006 19:14
I've been having that problem all day. Reported!
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Mara Anubis
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 2
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Sigh
10-12-2006 23:42
Ashling I think you need to see it for what it is. He explained his situation is all and why,because it was the right thing to do.Many people have no idea how many hours it takes just to keep a place like that running,not to mention the amount of hours to sort and box it all.Again,something people need to remember but obviously dont know how.Implying someone is lazy without proof wasn't nice either,again there,think of all the man hours,if you can.You are right about guns,no one should be held responsible for someone elses actions,what people do with those freebies after taking them is thier own business and if any violations occur becomes the business of LL.As for charging more and hiring people,what would that really accomplish in the end,he started that place of his own free will,gave back to SL...Lets keep it free and open for everyone.
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