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Oreo Lagerlof
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Join date: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 6
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06-09-2007 08:24
I also experience problems, under wondows XP, but only with Vertex Shaders. Sadly that is, what makes Second Life look SO good (well okay, let me rephrase: It doesn't really look good without them).... If I turn Vertex Shaders off, things are okay. If I turn them on, I get a memory access violation :/ yep |
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NateN Nakamura
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Join date: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 6
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06-09-2007 16:27
Yes, in Windows XP it works flawlessly. (Except for the "standard" client crashes every now and then...) I installed vista just for testing purposes on cat 7.5, I dont have issues with my current cards (9x00 and X8xx). I do not have an X1K or X2K series card so I cant gather info on that. It could be that its running fine because of the fresh Vista install. I cannot do any further testing with vista ATM as I need to return the computer back to XP. I also experience problems, under wondows XP, but only with Vertex Shaders. Sadly that is, what makes Second Life look SO good (well okay, let me rephrase: It doesn't really look good without them).... If I turn Vertex Shaders off, things are okay. If I turn them on, I get a memory access violation :/ I get this as well. I have it on and I cant turn it off otherwise the game crashes, had to go into the XML and manually turn them off. Thanks for this, I will forward it. |
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Lockhart Cordoso
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Join date: 8 Dec 2006
Posts: 53
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06-09-2007 22:45
I installed vista just for testing purposes on cat 7.5, I dont have issues with my current cards (9x00 and X8xx). I do not have an X1K or X2K series card so I cant gather info on that. I have Vista, x1900gt, and catalyst 7.5. It works quite fine. |
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Hades Oppewall
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Join date: 24 May 2007
Posts: 1
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06-09-2007 23:46
I also Have same issue, WIndows XP Catalyst 7.5 and using Ati, 9800XT. Only crashes when using vertex shaders
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Sark Hunt
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Join date: 1 Nov 2006
Posts: 20
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06-11-2007 06:26
I have 4 machines running with ati cards
x1950 x800xt (vista) 9800 9700 (xp) All running with 7.5 drivers no issues what so ever I have to laptops the same T60 brand new out of box one with xp one with vista x1300 mobility cards XP runs great vista crashes to desktop as soon as sign on screen appears Is there anyone from LL technical that actualy read and post and help on these forums ? |
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Thili Playfair
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Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,417
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06-11-2007 08:42
Its not called "resident forums" for nothing , nope LL wont say a peep about this or comment, they are to busy fixing the blog, or BBcode (when is that done already?) ...ever seen a Linden in SL latly?, they are as rare as heck, live help? hah.... right doesnt exsist, its a myth
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Alyssia Lane
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Join date: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 14
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Silly me
06-11-2007 10:16
Its not called "resident forums" for nothing , nope LL wont say a peep about this or comment, they are to busy fixing the blog, or BBcode (when is that done already?) ...ever seen a Linden in SL latly?, they are as rare as heck, live help? hah.... right doesnt exsist, its a myth Oh silly me. I thought that this, being the 'technical' forum, would be read by technical Lindens. But the Lindens are silly if they don't read it. It seems clear from many of the comments above that ATI Catalyst 7.5 drivers don't work with vertex shading enabled on newer ATI cards. WE know this now, but it seems the Lindens don't - so how are they supposed to help with all the support requests they're getting? Oh well.. |
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Maxx Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 4
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06-12-2007 08:46
Windows XP
ATI Radeon 9800 Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 1 GB of RAM I went back to Catalyst 7.4, but my computer screen itself is messed up, a bunch of lines across the screen, no games work, SL doesn't load up. I don't know what to do.  |
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leliel Mirihi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 129
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06-12-2007 08:53
Windows XP ATI Radeon 9800 Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 1 GB of RAM I went back to Catalyst 7.4, but my computer screen itself is messed up, a bunch of lines across the screen, no games work, SL doesn't load up. I don't know what to do. that's a sign of hardware damage, the 9800 is known to run hot and many of them die early because of it. |
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Maxx Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 4
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06-14-2007 14:00
that's a sign of hardware damage, the 9800 is known to run hot and many of them die early because of it. Ok, so I bought a NVidia GeForce 7600 GS, but a new problem arises. When I boot up my PC, and it boots up to Windows XP, it gives me a black screen. I called them and they told me to log into safe mode (didn't work), log in with last known settings that worked (didn't work), and finally, reformat my computer (Don't have my XP disk anymore). Now, I had the idea of buying Windows Vista Home Premium, but is it possible to install it without going into Windows XP? |
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Suzhanna Rossini
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Join date: 2 Apr 2007
Posts: 109
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06-14-2007 14:02
Now, I had the idea of buying Windows Vista Home Premium, but is it possible to install it without going into Windows XP? Yes of course it is, Windows Vista is a product of its own, not related to Windows XP. However, there may be issues if you buy an upgrade version of Vista, you have to check that out with the sales person you deal with. _____________________
When I'm hot, I'm cooking - When I'm not, I'm a bitch..
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Maxx Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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06-14-2007 14:04
Yes of course it is, Windows Vista is a product of its own, not related to Windows XP. However, there may be issues if you buy an upgrade version of Vista, you have to check that out with the sales person you deal with. I was gonna buy the full version. |
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Torley Linden
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Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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06-18-2007 10:15
Thanks for the reports and the emails I got on this! Please make sure further info goes to our Issue Tracker — we keep track of bugs there. This issue is (thanks Shirley for the reminder!):
* VWR-1050: The viewer crashes when vertex shading is enabled in combination with the latest ATI drivers (7.5) https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1050 Please have a look and vote to let us know you're affected by it. I'm also going to ask our developers about it today. _____________________
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Ordella Halley
~HERETIC~ Fashion&Design
Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 53
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06-19-2007 00:43
After 10 days of staying away, after the new update ( Windows 2000/XP: 1.17.0.12), I could log in. The late post is because I played more, read forum less *grins*
Finally, don't have the "buffer overrun detected" bug anymore. It seems that the Lindens are working after all, though... still 10 days... *smiles bitterly* |
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Heidi Essex
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Join date: 9 Oct 2006
Posts: 2
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06-20-2007 20:10
I have been having most of the ATI reported bugs here after getting my HIS 2900xt
in one form or another but one tread caught my eye. It mentioned the c++ and buffer underun problem........ (i got that once but not when running SL couple days agoo) When i instal the ATI catalyst 7.5 driver it actualy launches a seperate c++ files instal Anyone else noticed this ?.... But that c++ when it runs and instal it it says something like 2005 Might not mean anything but isnt that sort of ...old ? Is it me or could it simply be over writing already updated files i had whit older ones? Cross's fingers and hope 7.6 that should be out in a few days fix the worst of whatever it is thats going on. |
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Fambaa Kidd
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Join date: 27 May 2007
Posts: 5
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Open Gl
06-26-2007 07:58
Dear Mr Linden It's clear that there is a problem using SL with the latest ATI drivers. We, your loyal and trusting customers, are asking for a solution but we are not sure exactly where the problem lies and who caused it. SL uses OpenGL. OpenGL drivers are installed with the ATI suite. For me, SL crashes instantly with ATI 7.5 drivers in full-screen mode, but not with 7.4 drivers. But I cannot reproduce the problem with other OpenGL applications. To the contrary, using the excellent OpenGL benchmarking program GLExcess with all 12 benchmarks I get 18121 xsMarks with 7.5 compared with 17924 xsMarks using 7.4. Google Earth uses OpenGL and it works perfectly in full-screen mode with Catalyst 7.5. So come on Mr Linden, please tell us why SL doesn't work with new ATI drivers. After all, it's surely in your interest to find out - think of all those potential customers you are losing because they have powerful new graphics cards with the latest drivers and they install this amazing virtual world that everyone is talking about only to find it crashes. Alyssia XP Pro SP2 1680x1050 32bpp (all settings high) X1950 Pro 512 AMD64 X2 4600+ 3GB RAM I noticed these Issues with the new Catalyst as well, theres something wrong while reading at a specific postion of the memory when using the shaders. Im quoting Alyssia because we have the same graphicscard, and I got another problem too. My average score of all summaries with GLExcess is 19242 while running the test in 1152x864 32 bit Full Screen. But in SL I only get an average FPS of 18 !!! I tried different drivers, I tried different settings (VBO enable/disable doesnt make a big chage) I have the fear that SL doesnt turn on hardware acceleration on my comp at all. Hope that someone reads this and can point me into the right direction, because were all ati/radeon users... My Sys AMD XP 3800+ 1500 MB Ram WIN XP SP2 X1950 Pro 512 MB AGP ASUS A8V Deluxe |