Non-stop crashing

Game was running fine when I went to bed last night.

Came home today (PC still on - it's always on, HAVE NOT changed any configs with it - DO NOT tell me I did please), and installed new version. TP'ed to Slingo. Played a round no issues. TP'ed home. Talked to my GF for a bit there. All good, no issues with crashing. She went to a store. She TP'ed me to her. Now, ever since she TP'ed me, no matter where we go, I crash randomly every 10 seconds to a couple of minutes after logging in.

I cleared cache & restarted SL - no help

Rebooted PC - no help.

I unistalled SL, and dowloaded the .exe installer. It says it's corrupt when I try to install.

I fired up Internet Explorer and ran the installer .exe instead of downloading it. That worked, and it installed fine.

I go back into SL on my fresh install - still crashing randomly.

Please help, this bites.

Ok, so I have a second hard drive with XP on it - I rebooted my PC to that instance of XP, ran the SL updater to patch up a few weeks old version of SL, got in game, was doing fine, but as soon as a friend offered me a TP, it crashed me out. I talked to her in Yahoo, and she said that she heard the *ding* when she offered TP, and then saw me go offline...

I am going to update my nvidia driver on this install of XP and see what happens, although I do not know why it would be my driver when SL has been running perfectly with the drivers I have had since I started playing.

UPDATE - installed fresh nvidia drivers - so far so good - no crashes in 30 min...

*knocks on wood*

I'm guessing something in the update is incompatible with whatever version of driver I had on here, though it's not a very old version, was put on here in late spring.

*shrug*

Nonstop crashing for me, too ... thing is, I'm using the latest video drivers.

New version was the catalyst. Was working great last night when I was on -- installed the update today, couldn't even get in-game.

Uninstalled SL, defragmented and reinstalled ... restarted and launched - still crash.

This post helped me fix it: /111/7a/126473/1.html

My comments: Edit the existing keys.ini file and delete the look_at_chatter strings and the CONVERSATION area. Seems they've removed them from the code.

Well, I spoke too soon. As soon as I went to a busy area I started crashing again...

Shaun, that link takes me to a post reply page.

Will try your suggestion though. Thanks.

I don't see those strings, I need more info. I am looking in the keys.ini, and just dont see them.

Here is what I have in that file:

# keys.ini
#
# keyboard binding initialization
#
# comments must have # in the first column
# blank lines OK
#
# Format:
# mode key mask function
#
# mode must be one of FIRST_PERSON, THIRD_PERSON, EDIT, EDIT_AVATAR, or CONVERSATION
# key must be upper case, or SPACE, HOME, END, PGUP, PGDN, LEFT, RIGHT, UP, DOWN,
#     or one of ,.;'[]
# mask must be NONE, SHIFT, ALT, ALT_SHIFT.
# Control is reserved for user commands.
# function must be a function named in llkeyboard.cpp

FIRST_PERSON	A		NONE		slide_left
FIRST_PERSON	D		NONE		slide_right
FIRST_PERSON	W		NONE		push_forward
FIRST_PERSON	S		NONE		push_backward
FIRST_PERSON	E		NONE		jump
FIRST_PERSON	C		NONE		push_down
FIRST_PERSON	F		NONE		toggle_fly

FIRST_PERSON	LEFT	NONE		slide_left
FIRST_PERSON	RIGHT	NONE		slide_right
FIRST_PERSON	UP		NONE		push_forward
FIRST_PERSON	DOWN	NONE		push_backward
FIRST_PERSON	PGUP	NONE		jump
FIRST_PERSON	PGDN	NONE		push_down

FIRST_PERSON	A		SHIFT		slide_left
FIRST_PERSON	D		SHIFT		slide_right
FIRST_PERSON	W		SHIFT		push_forward
FIRST_PERSON	S		SHIFT		push_backward
FIRST_PERSON	E		SHIFT		jump
FIRST_PERSON	C		SHIFT		push_down
FIRST_PERSON	F		SHIFT		toggle_fly

FIRST_PERSON	SPACE	NONE		stop_moving

FIRST_PERSON	LEFT	SHIFT		slide_left
FIRST_PERSON	RIGHT	SHIFT		slide_right
FIRST_PERSON	UP		SHIFT		push_forward
FIRST_PERSON	DOWN	SHIFT		push_backward
FIRST_PERSON	PGUP	SHIFT		jump
FIRST_PERSON	PGDN	SHIFT		push_down

THIRD_PERSON	A		NONE		turn_left
THIRD_PERSON	D		NONE		turn_right
THIRD_PERSON	A		SHIFT		slide_left
THIRD_PERSON	D		SHIFT		slide_right
THIRD_PERSON	W		NONE		push_forward
THIRD_PERSON	S		NONE		push_backward
THIRD_PERSON	W		SHIFT		push_forward
THIRD_PERSON	S		SHIFT		push_backward
THIRD_PERSON	E		NONE		jump
THIRD_PERSON	C		NONE		push_down
THIRD_PERSON	E		SHIFT		jump
THIRD_PERSON	C		SHIFT		push_down

THIRD_PERSON	F		NONE		toggle_fly
THIRD_PERSON	F		SHIFT		toggle_fly

THIRD_PERSON	SPACE	NONE		stop_moving

THIRD_PERSON	LEFT	NONE		turn_left
THIRD_PERSON	LEFT	SHIFT		slide_left
THIRD_PERSON	RIGHT	NONE		turn_right
THIRD_PERSON	RIGHT	SHIFT		slide_right
THIRD_PERSON	UP		NONE		push_forward
THIRD_PERSON	DOWN	NONE		push_backward
THIRD_PERSON	UP		SHIFT		push_forward
THIRD_PERSON	DOWN	SHIFT		push_backward
THIRD_PERSON	PGUP	NONE		jump
THIRD_PERSON	PGDN	NONE		push_down
THIRD_PERSON	PGUP	SHIFT		jump
THIRD_PERSON	PGDN	SHIFT		push_down

# Camera controls in third person on Alt
THIRD_PERSON	A		ALT			spin_around_cw
THIRD_PERSON	D		ALT			spin_around_ccw
THIRD_PERSON	W		ALT			move_forward
THIRD_PERSON	S		ALT			move_backward
THIRD_PERSON	E		ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	C		ALT			spin_under

THIRD_PERSON	LEFT	ALT			spin_around_cw
THIRD_PERSON	RIGHT	ALT			spin_around_ccw
THIRD_PERSON	UP		ALT			move_forward
THIRD_PERSON	DOWN	ALT			move_backward
THIRD_PERSON	PGUP	ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	PGDN	ALT			spin_under

# mimic alt zoom behavior with keyboard only
THIRD_PERSON	A		CTL_ALT			spin_around_cw
THIRD_PERSON	D		CTL_ALT			spin_around_ccw
THIRD_PERSON	W		CTL_ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	S		CTL_ALT			spin_under
THIRD_PERSON	E		CTL_ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	C		CTL_ALT			spin_under

THIRD_PERSON	LEFT	CTL_ALT			spin_around_cw
THIRD_PERSON	RIGHT	CTL_ALT			spin_around_ccw
THIRD_PERSON	UP		CTL_ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	DOWN	CTL_ALT			spin_under
THIRD_PERSON	PGUP	CTL_ALT			spin_over
THIRD_PERSON	PGDN	CTL_ALT			spin_under


# Therefore pan on Alt-Shift
THIRD_PERSON	A		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_left
THIRD_PERSON	D		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_right
THIRD_PERSON	W		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_up
THIRD_PERSON	S		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_down

THIRD_PERSON	LEFT	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_left
THIRD_PERSON	RIGHT	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_right
THIRD_PERSON	UP		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_up
THIRD_PERSON	DOWN	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_down

# Basic editing camera control
EDIT			A		NONE		spin_around_cw
EDIT			D		NONE		spin_around_ccw
EDIT			W		NONE		move_forward
EDIT			S		NONE		move_backward
EDIT			E		NONE		spin_over
EDIT			C		NONE		spin_under

EDIT			LEFT	NONE		spin_around_cw
EDIT			RIGHT	NONE		spin_around_ccw
EDIT			UP		NONE		move_forward
EDIT			DOWN	NONE		move_backward
EDIT			PGUP	NONE		spin_over
EDIT			PGDN	NONE		spin_under

EDIT			A		SHIFT		pan_left
EDIT			D		SHIFT		pan_right
EDIT			W		SHIFT		pan_up
EDIT			S		SHIFT		pan_down

EDIT			LEFT	SHIFT		pan_left
EDIT			RIGHT	SHIFT		pan_right
EDIT			UP		SHIFT		pan_up
EDIT			DOWN	SHIFT		pan_down

# Walking works with ALT held down.
EDIT			A		ALT			slide_left
EDIT			D		ALT			slide_right
EDIT			W		ALT			push_forward
EDIT			S		ALT			push_backward
EDIT			E		ALT			jump
EDIT			C		ALT			push_down

EDIT			LEFT	ALT			slide_left
EDIT			RIGHT	ALT			slide_right
EDIT			UP		ALT			push_forward
EDIT			DOWN	ALT			push_backward
EDIT			PGUP	ALT			jump
EDIT			PGDN	ALT			push_down

SITTING			A		ALT			spin_around_cw
SITTING			D		ALT			spin_around_ccw
SITTING			W		ALT			move_forward
SITTING			S		ALT			move_backward
SITTING			E		ALT			spin_over
SITTING			C		ALT			spin_under

SITTING			LEFT	ALT			spin_around_cw
SITTING			RIGHT	ALT			spin_around_ccw
SITTING			UP		ALT			move_forward
SITTING			DOWN	ALT			move_backward
SITTING			PGUP	ALT			spin_over
SITTING			PGDN	ALT			spin_under

SITTING			A		NONE		spin_around_cw_sitting
SITTING			D		NONE		spin_around_ccw_sitting
SITTING			W		NONE		move_forward_sitting
SITTING			S		NONE		move_backward_sitting
SITTING			E		NONE		spin_over_sitting
SITTING			C		NONE		spin_under_sitting

SITTING			LEFT	NONE		spin_around_cw_sitting
SITTING			RIGHT	NONE		spin_around_ccw_sitting
SITTING			UP		NONE		move_forward_sitting
SITTING			DOWN	NONE		move_backward_sitting
SITTING			PGUP	NONE		spin_over_sitting
SITTING			PGDN	NONE		spin_under_sitting

# these are for passing controls when sitting on vehicles
SITTING			A		SHIFT		slide_left
SITTING			D		SHIFT		slide_right
SITTING			LEFT	SHIFT		slide_left
SITTING			RIGHT	SHIFT		slide_right

# pan on Alt-Shift
SITTING			A		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_left
SITTING			D		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_right
SITTING			W		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_up
SITTING			S		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_down

SITTING			LEFT	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_left
SITTING			RIGHT	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_right
SITTING			UP		CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_up
SITTING			DOWN	CTL_ALT_SHIFT	pan_down



# Avatar editing camera controls
EDIT_AVATAR		A		NONE		edit_avatar_spin_cw
EDIT_AVATAR		D		NONE		edit_avatar_spin_ccw
EDIT_AVATAR		W		NONE		edit_avatar_move_forward
EDIT_AVATAR		S		NONE		edit_avatar_move_backward
EDIT_AVATAR		E		NONE		edit_avatar_spin_over
EDIT_AVATAR		C		NONE		edit_avatar_spin_under
EDIT_AVATAR		LEFT	NONE		edit_avatar_spin_cw
EDIT_AVATAR		RIGHT	NONE		edit_avatar_spin_ccw
EDIT_AVATAR		UP		NONE		edit_avatar_move_forward
EDIT_AVATAR		DOWN	NONE		edit_avatar_move_backward
EDIT_AVATAR		PGUP	NONE		edit_avatar_spin_over
EDIT_AVATAR		PGDN	NONE		edit_avatar_spin_under

OK, I have noticed that I seem to crash after I use ALT+ZOOM.

I am going to try and go back in and verify this.

Eh, I guess that wasn't it, I am crashing just standing in one place at my house, or in empty sims, or what have you, without zooming or anything....

Good news (so far) :

I decided that after none of the other things I tried were working to fix my crashing that I would uninstall SL, and then remove all registry entries from Linden Lab or Second Life. Then I reinstalled SL again, and I haven't crashed in several hours of gameplay. Coincidence? I am not sure, but I sure hope not.

Been experiencing crashes as well. I'm using the most current drivers for my system but every time i try and edit an object its wanting to lock up and crash on me.

Winxp
nvidea geforce 7800gt
amd althlon 64 duelcore

i had the same problem some months ago and had to remove all reference to sl from my system/remove temp files/download latest version of sl and re install. Also updated graphics drivers and it finally seemed to work fine..... then my system crashed completely and i had to reinstall xp. since then i have had no problems with it.

for info i have twin gfx 7800
duel AMD64's
Win XP Pro

My wife was having the same problem with hers and her FPS dropped to almost nothing. She has an ATI X1900 and after the last update was having the same problem. With the help of a great tech from Dell she is up and running now. She had to download the Omega verison of the drivers for her card and do an uninstall and reinstall of the game. She is running great as of this writing. Seems the update and some of the new drivers for the ATI are not compatible. She will be writing to both the designers of the game and the video card to see if they can come up with a fix for this issue.

Same here. Amd64, 1GB RAM, WindowsXP Pro, Nvidia geforce 6600...After many crashes -often only can be in SL some minutes or secs!- My system crashed completely. I was so worryed about it. Can a game work like a virus? .

After download las driver of nvidia, and reinstall windows (that is not normal), I have yet same problems...If anyone have a solution, please wrote it.

Thanks!

ah, I have test too some games that use graphics 3D acceleration...and not problems.

ever thought that it maybe adware or trojan/virus related? because it sounds like its passing from person to person via scripts.
the other cause could be incomapibilities between 64/32 bit operating systems which could of course be another microsoft bug and not an SL one - havnt struck any of these problems because im still on an old 32 bit with gforce2 but im about to upgrade video card so im anticipating problems

Despite thinking I had this solved a number of times - I am still having this happen. I can go for hours just fine - but then the crashing will start. It happens over and over again when it starts. I thought that maybe it was heat causing it, but nothing is even close to feeling hot in my case - processor, vid card, nada.

What seems to cure it is to reinstall SL - MOST times, I can then get a break from the crashing for a while, sometimes several hours. It always returns though, just when I start to feel comfy that it may be over with.

My system well exceeds SL req'd specs.

Newest nvidia drivers - check.

Reseated vid card and RAM - multiple times - check.

Added extra cooling fan to PC case - check.

Ran diagnostic on vid card and RAM, no report of issue - check.

Running processor temperature monitor proggie - no sign of overheating - check.

Uninstall SL (including remove all traces of SL/LL software from my PC, including registry entries) and reinstall SL - check.

This all started very shortly after I installed last week's update. I never had crashing probs before with SL.

What happens -

My screen starts to flash, I know it's coming then. Suddenly after a few flashes, SL will just disappear, and I have the desktop with the crash logger up. Sometimes I can get right back into SL, other times no, and it will take multiple tries (each one giving crash logger) to get back in. Either way, I will keep crashing once I am back in. So what I have found as the only (temporary) solution, is to reinstall SL. This gives some relief as I noted above. Infrequently, this will make my PC reboot itself, or I will get blue screen, which I have seen like once ever before on XP...

Looks like you did all the right things so far, it could be a power issue, what watt power supply do you have?

After a big crash, my computer dead; impossible boot...Then I have opened cpu. I going tell you a misterius:
1) A cable of usb was disconicted...Thanks to SL now I know
2) I have extracted a TV capturer card...

I dont see relation into 2 and SL crash, but now I only have crashed every minutes or hour fractions, not every secs...Well is an advance, without reinstall all again.

I will maintain you informed

Joke: SL is a good hardware tester for pc. If you have some weakness, you'll know

450. I replaced it today with a comparable one from another machine, just in case. Still crashing....

It's not you!!! The problem is server-side but no one is willing to admit it , Many peeps, including myself, have posted about having this crashing problem

I'm having all these same issues. I've uninstalled/reinstalled everything, including updating my BIOS, chipset, system software and video drivers. I've uninstalled/reinstalled SL countless times.

I have crashing that just shuts the whole computer down altogether. It never just crashes to the desktop or goes bluescreen.

I've run diognotics, disk clean, defrag, virus scans, spyware scans, disk check, etc. I'm really frustrated, and yes, it's only since the last update this has all been occurring.

Sent my SecondLife logs to [email]support@lindenlab.com[/email], hoping for an answer soon.

System information
Dell XPS M170 laptop
Intel Pentium M 2.26 GHz
1.71 GHz, 2.00 GB RAM
Nvidia GEForce GO 7800 GTX
Windows XP(2)

I had hoped yesterday's update would fix whatever it is LL changed in last week's update which is causing SL to crash for me. It also sometimes gets worse and starts locking up or rebooting my machine on it's own.

To no avail, I am still having periods of crashing non-stop. It's really bizarre because it will behave nicely for hours and then just start doing it again.

Most times I can tell when it's coming, because my screen will start flashing, though this is not always the case. It doesn't happen in other 3d games like WoW, MoH, or Oblivion. I can play them error free, like SL used to be before last weeks patch. Something changed in the SL software, and my PC hates it.

Sansarya, do you get that flashing before you start crashing?