another huge attack .. sigh

trying to think of something helpful to say
but all i feel is frustration of this sitaution

3rd attack in 2 days ,
that is something for us all to think about

my hopes this guy get sued for all he got in RL

for all the damages and grief he cuases 1000's of people everyday repeatingly

people trying to work and enjoy their time in sl

if someone did the same in your RL workplace would u not want to use the full extent of the law against them?

I would bet a month's pay this person (these people?) have absolutely nothing worth suing over in RL. They clearly have no life, no imagination, and no real skills to speak of. Not much of a chance they'd have anything of significant monetary value.

I'd be content to see *any* kind of legal action that's typically taken against DOS attackers.

the TOS protects these people against disclourse in rl , but maybe
since they are banned an removed from sl for violating the TOS in the first
place , it shouldn't protect them anymore (correct me if i'm wrong)

I support putting all their rl info at our capable hands
would be a good answer , then we can all sent hate and spam mail to their personal inbox just an exmaple.

of course i don't bleieve there is any such info submitted by the attackers willingly
but an ip range , or isp used .. maybe something that would help fileing an official
complaint

(and I am Not going agianst regulations here only blowing up some steam)

So this person called Kazeryu Severine is spamming me with objects, what I ask is, are they the offender, or is it out of their hands?

you may want to look in picasso was trying to report it to no avail

Anthea

We can only speculate, but it seems likely that they are pawns.

Requiring credit card information to possess an SL account would go a long way to stem some of this I think.

But no, it's open a wide open door anyone can walk through.

So sick of this

Well I got the 100's of objects and I messaged Live Help, took them almost 15mins to get back to me. Since this has never happend to me before I had no clue what to do. Should I just keep discarding them? Should I log out. Will that just make all of them go to my e-mail?? Well I asked Live Help to tell me what to do, so they finally answer and say "we are aware, and go read the blog" Great!!! Didnt tell me what I should have done!!!! I gave them as many names as I could from the objects. Was that just a big waste of time?? For the next time... and we all know there will be a next time, what should I have done? Just logged out?? Would they all end up as messages in my email??

Makes me wanna send who ever did that a 100,000 Bitch slaps for this one.

Nellen the best way i have found to do this is....let the objects fall where they may.....THEY will not do one thing unless you accept them...as long as you dont then they will not go to your avitar...your screen will fill up but not your inventory.....after the lil childish ass gets done with his lil game and you see nomore chat on your screen about the objects...then this means that LL has stopped the attack....then hit discard on everyone of them and then empty your trash to be on the save side....then go to edit, prefs, and then clear your cache box and click ok...log out...log back in and you should be good to go.
Unless this childish ass has gotten smarter since the last one.

Indeed, I was spammed by 5 different people/groups/objects and there's a strong probability than none of the people or groups were the originator.

Why doesn't LL put a silent script in the background of the program that logs the IP addy of anyone who logs in with a free account, because anyone who does this shit wouldn't want to pay for a membership just to have it taken away.

Another idea that runs parallel to that would be a script that auto-deletes an object that self-replicates or spams (whether it's text, object, or other) longer than x seconds or x amount of objects being offered.

Anyone else like those ideas?

Many ISPs issue dynamic IP addresses so it wouldn't matter, and the SL client does create a hardware hash which LL can then use to ban on a PC basis (preventing the use of alts from that machine) -- but it has been suggested even that can be circumvented.

I think Charissa has the answer (see above).

I've got an idea to prevent this from continuing to happen.

Conceptually:
If a grid attack is happening, in God Tools, a Linden checks "Self-Replicating Object Protection". This prevents objects from giving other objects owned by the same person inventory, and could be made to send alerts to a log file, prevent script execution, or other agent-based property manipulation. This could also be made available to the traditional scripting engine, to allow for non-malicious scripts exhibiting this behavior to seek a less offensive course of action.

In a sloppy redefinition format, which speaks for itself for those who are programming savvy:
llGiveInventory(key destination, string inventory) {
if ((gridstatus && GSTATUS_SELFREZ_OFF) && (llGetOwnerKey(giver) == llGetOwnerKey(destination)) {
llSay(DEBUG_CHANNEL, "Self Replication object protection on, llGiveInventory failed";
return
}

--Avil Creeggan
Alliance Navy
Free Account

Well another day of attacks, why in hell is the Lindens allowing free accts,only to be abused by jerks who have nothing else better to do. Start requiring ppl to sign with CC or something to stop these abusers.. Like everyone here i put money into this game and i expect to be able to play it.. not duck for cover at everytime the grid goes down.. Also stop allowing scripts that target sims in the way it is doing, replicating itself or targetting ppl in general.. LL needs to close the holes and quit picking their butts... I see that LL is in it for the money and not for the consumer.. Yeah i know im whinning and complaining but this is happening way too much.. Do Something or you will lose the confidance of your consumers....

Personally, I think offering free accounts was a bad idea in the first place. They should reinstate the short trial period and require RL info and a valid credit card. Anything else is an arms-wide-open invitation to griefers.

What will happen to me???? I accepted some fore I realized something was wrong will it effect me or my inventory or anything else??? anyone have answers??? I am not that new but I have not been online during a grid attack bfore so I had now Idea!!! OMG I feel like a dummy

Nellen i am a live helper and i was logged in at the time of the attack i also was spammed with the objects in question and in a matter of 90 seconds there was over 150 calls from members about being spamed we do try and answer everyone's question but in that situation we dont have correct info to give and to go through each call takes time i in the process was logged out while i was helping others so please bear with us at live help sometimes it just takes longer then other times

The free accounts are fine, but they should be severly limited. Like only being able to chat and that's it. If you want more.. cough up the credit card.

Ok, I agree on some of it, I used to have a paying account but now im on a free account, I think instead of having me pay for it (unless your talking about just CC validation) we should just have to put our CC on our account, the reason I dont have my CC on this account is because the last time it was hacked and I dont want my CC info to be stolen. And partial of it is, I dont have the money to pay for SL, even though 10USD isnt alot, it 10USD I have to use to pay for everything else.

Sorry. I meant CC Validation so if you had premium and reverted back to basic you would still be able to do everything in world except buy land of course. But the free, no payment info accounts shouldn't be able to use scripts or rez anything in world. Just my 2 cents.

3,942 left in-world... I wonder how low that number will go before the problem is fixed.

Oops! 3,835.

This is the worst attack ever. I know some people might be in to that type of porn, but it made me seriously ill to see the photo plastered as I quickly logged off after realizing I was getting spammed with objects.

Linden Labs wants to make it easy for people to try Second Life,
but the only restriction on unverified/free accounts that I am aware
of is not being able to own land.

For free accounts that are unverified, I think there should be more
restrictions, such as not being able to even run scripted objects, much
less code in the scripting language. Another limitation could be on
how many objects you can have in inventory.

For free accounts that are verified, you can have more inventory,
and run scripted objects, but still not code in lsl. For those people
without credit cards, they could always be verified by mail for a
nominal fee (say $3.00), with their cheque serving as the verification
of identity.

Paid accounts have no restrictions on coding, but the lsl compiler needs
to check for objects that make copies of themselves to deter the attacks
that have been happening.

I think most of what you say here is a good idea except this, I have a varified account and run a biz. in SL Fae Faire` <shameless plug lol>. Any way I spend just on land fees alone 140+ a month not to mention the shopping I do, and man oh man do I love the shopping. I contribute alot to our comunity and I think that restricting unvarified accounts is a great idea, but once the account is varrified LL has any information they would need then to prosecute or ban you by CC info. Varrified accounts then shouldn't have restrictions. I am all for unvarrified accounts being restricted though. Sadly I have seen people with pay accounts talk about having a griefing alt. my point in mentioning this is that LL has created a way for even our "good" citizens to act out not to mention the door they opened to others. Just dont be fooled into thinking it is only newbies doing it. This is agrivating though, many people here make RL livings off thier SL biz. and these constant attacks are costing them. The whole situation is frustrating atleast LL has issued a statement of intent and appology even about customer service. They are listening and will get a solution out there. They know that thier paying customers have had near enough.

Requiring payment info to be on file, for a free account, or a paid account, would definitely lessen the frequency of these attacks and allow LL to have a means of going after those who perptrate these attacks in a much more effective way. it would reduce crime in general perpetrated in SL significantly by having a meaningful deterrant in place. Without varifiable payment info in place, people simply wouldn't be able to get in.

This doesn't mean taking away the free accounts at all. But simply requiring varifiable payment info to be in place to allow access. And it isn't a big procedural change at all for LL to implement. But it would make a world of difference to the whole SL experience.

There is no one "magic bullet" to make SL perfectly safe from this sort of attack. But the procedure described above certainly would give LL a much more significant means of preventing casual abuse.