Campers not paying

Be aware that Welfare Island camping bins etc arent currently paying anyone, Ive just wasted my time there for 0L and so have a lot of others. This sux, if theyre not paying there should be a warning otherwise its a rip-off. Someone should cough up with the money owed otherwise we should boycott their island and their surveys.

GREAT im glad that you choose tech support out of all places to wine about some obscure camp hole not paying out anymore

heres an idea tho, shut off your computer i guarantee you will make atleast 10 cents an hour on your electric bill

oh yea PLEASE boycott them, their neighbors will appreciate being able to go home for once, or (omg) maby run a script

good to see the gentle art of sarcasm is alive and well, pardon me for trying to save people wasting their time, because like it or not, it's a tech problem.
LOL I can see youre helpful to newbies I so admire that quality

Unfortunately the sarcasim wasn't gentle, nor will you find any sympathisers for the camping fertunity. That doesn't make it right, as from their perspective all they are doing is collecting some money which they will ultimately put that back into the community, in the best way they know how.
Rather than anyone pointing their anger on the campers, and see them as some sort of scurge, they should always focus on those that are perhaps perceived as exploiting the system in some way, trying to raise their traffic.

It is not a tech issue. The avatar that owns the campers has zero Lindens in it's account. Therefore: You be broke!

L$ that just circulates without actively being exchanged for US$ contributes nothing.

The traffic system can't be exploited without hordes of gullible and cheap campers.

Also, if the majority had the mindset of a camper in that they're entitled to remain logged in 24/7 doing nothing then the grid would just break under the load.

L$ that just circulate... hmm.. let me think about that one... circulates through to people that do perhaps take that money out of game... unless the feinds are paying pack to the source.. come on, have a little imagination here.

I don't know why you pick so readily on campers, not everyone has a CC loaded with $$$$'s.. what will come next? Money trees? Pole Dancers? If the facility is there, why shouldn't someone use them? For the most part, the statement about campers causing a 'load' on the grid is for the most part unfounded. Most campers have very very little in their inventories, no primed or flexi objects, no fancy textures, they don't tp everywhere, go to heavily scripted malls or dance clubs, don't use IM's, main chat, Voice, bling, scripted accessories... the list goes on....

You, or anyone else certainly shouldn't automatically assume anything about anyone, calling them freeloaders, cheap etc etc.. only demeans you.

eh maby your right

but i do know that the camp hole that shares the same sim as I constantly keeps me from accessing my land, and when i do i cant actually work in my workshop becuase the script performance is so low

so while these ppl are zombies earning nickels im forced to go off in a sandbox to do my work becuase i cant use the land i pay for ... and yes im looking at buying new land, which will cost me alot more linden money along with the hassle and time

i really apperciate all of the campers soo much, go win some slingo or somethin like i do

PMSL
it is hard to feel any sympathy here, nice work Osgeld

Hi Lana. A better place to post a message like this would be in the largest of the camping Groups that you can find via the Groups tab in Search (just type camping, i'm sure many will show up). Anyone online in those groups will be happy to get your well-meant warning, they will undoubtedly point you to working camp chairs, and you won't receive the focussed vitriol of the entire forum community

Let's all remember that this person is not the inventor of camping!

There is a duty of everyone using the grid not to overly use resources, if that is the case, you can AR them. Before you do, think on this, 20 ppls using camping pads, will little in their inventories, not tp on the grid, little if any bling, scripted HUDs, AO's, flexi etc etc... take up less resources than 2 ppls that have all of the above. What could be a solution, is when a parcel is made, you get asigned a prim limit, why not apply a script limit, or some form of resource limit to each parcel? I'm sure that can be acheived.

When i saw this i thought,
Campers not paying ...owner?
o.O wait do campers need to pay to camp now ?
rrrr no that wasnt it,

As far as traffic goes that thing need to die, every place i go that has high traffic?, its sure not cause they have nice content or good mall, its a afk camping spot -.- wich wasnt the intention how traffic was ment to be.

Hmm, Join date Sept 2005, you sure dont' seem to be a newbie. And in the forums so you have a premium account. why do you need free lindens?

Sorry but I don't feel the least bit bad for campers who don't get paid, all campers do is waste resources that people who are actually at their pc's doing something productive in SL could be using.

Sorry but like it or not, it's not a tech problem.

@Darien: Forum access does not require premium account, only payment info on file.

The merits/drawbacks of camping are not the topic of this thread. Plus, as pointed out, the original posting does not belong in "tech issues".

If someone wishes to start yet another thread griping about camping, feel free. I hope that the OP has ceased to read this snipe festival, and personally I think this thread should be closed. Again, I am fairly sure that the OP did not invent camping.

Why is it important to be doing something productive in SL? I do that all day in RL, I don't need to do virtually productive things to boot. If that's your trip, all well and good, but don't lay it on everyone else.

Well Payment info was my point. If she can pay, she can't argue she is camping as a newbie who can't get lindens. I didn't ask for your opinion anyway, unless you are yet another one of her alts.

No I am nobody's alt. I am just tired of self important sorts who seem to confuse SL and RL. I see from your profile that your productive time in SL has something to do with creating anal plugs and bondage toys.

I really don't care if you asked for my opinion. That's the risk you take when you post on a forum.

Who cares why she wants to camp? It's really none of our business.

It's not about doing something unproductive, campers aren't *doing* anything. The avie is simply idling while the RL person is off doing something else.

Yes Kitty. I am not defending camping. Just sticking up for my right to be a paying, non-productive citizen of Linden Land.

Actually I have very little interaction with the camping phenom. I live on a themed private estate, and the only place I see them is when I go out to fool around in casinos. There are also quite a few sitting in cafes and so on in some of the themed sims like Bahia Brazil, but they seem to add a little ambience. I expect Carnival' to be crowded.

I went out once to check it out, but found it boring (however it was economically rewarding as I managed to liberate a large amount of L$ from the casino owner in a short period of time by winning a substantial jack pot on the slot attached to the camping chair).

I realize that some people tend to take SL very seriously, but there is way more than enough serious in my RL life. That is where I choose to contribute my productive time, although I thank all those who put in their time to make SL workable and fun.

I'm not a camper. Oh, I have done it when I was new to SL, but I got bored and only stayed an hour or so at a time. And I did the "pole" dancing stuff too which is basically camping while waiting for someone to come along to tip me. All that was as a newbie trying to make a few lindens to spend in the game. I never made enough lindens to ever say camping is a real way of gathering "money" in SL. I suppose if I had parked my avi somewhere and gone off to real life work or real life sleep, I could have made something worth speaking about.......but I never went that far. I figured that if I was going to the trouble of logging into SL I wanted to do something fun.....not boring. So since I'm somewhat guilty of the "crime" I can never ridicule someone else for doing what I did.

However, I did find another way to "make" lindens. I started entering events and playing sploders. The "payoff" is a little better and I found it fun to chat and cut up in the clubs. I've made a substantial amount of lindens doing that........in fact, I still do. But, in realitiy, what's the difference? I'm sitting at my computer for several hours dancing on some animation, typing nonsense to others doing the same thing. Toss 5 lindens in a sploder and about 5 minutes I get the verdict of my "gamble"...........usually the 5 lindens I payed orginally. But, at least it's not as boring and sitting silently and every 10 mins I see $L3 added to my account. There just isn't a lot of difference.......I'm not contributing much to the game.........in fact, about 60% of the time I take out of the game with my "winnings". Yeah I might go somewhere and purchase an outfit, shoes,, hair, or an occassional skin. But most of my winnings go to the DJ's and hosts that are providing my entertainment...........and to pay for my uploads for my experiments in textures.

What I really enjoy is playing around with making textures. Clothing and building stuff. I don't want to put in the effort to sell anything........I'm like Jannae. I'm here to play. I put my "productive" efforts in real life since real life productiveness put real things in my life. I've never sold a single item I've made so I'm not contributing that way either. I probably have close to 1,000 textures and nearly that many clothing and building items in my inventory. I'm eating resources and putting very little back...............at least, according to some here. And to compound that, though I don't sell anything, I do give a lot of stuff away.........with copy/mod permissions. To my "crime" may be compounded immensely.

So, all this is leading to a question for those the demand that everyone worth their salt in SL contribute something back.........I don't camp, but am I the same "drain" on resources as a camper? That's what I'm reading from some of you. Camping may not be your cup of tea (it's not mine) and they do make if difficult for some with not being able to visit land they "own" but they are not doing anything illegal and are not ARable......why do you feel it necessary to treat them like scum? Next you will be after me...........and I'm premium (been premium since day 2 in SL).

think on this, i cant access my land, and abuse reports do nothing, i pay linden labs money so someone else can use the entire sim most of the time, for people who are not even near their computer

noone is forcing you to check in and if you think badly of this thread dont click on it please, noone voted you in as forum sheriff

no the op didnt invent camping but they support it, if joe av didnt invent kiddie porn, ad farms, landbots, ect, but supports it we should be kinder right?

couldnt care less what you do in SL, as long as its not waking up, logging in and going off in the real world for days on end diminishing my SL