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Moriz Gupte

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Join date: 25 Apr 2005

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11-21-2005 18:23

I just found that when i sit on objects on my group land, I never sit on the objects but somewhere on the side and above the objects. Is this a known issue? new bug?

paulie Femto

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Join date: 13 Sep 2003

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11-21-2005 18:38

It appears to be a bug. Or they have changed the way llSitTarget() works, without telling anyone.

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Moriz Gupte

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11-21-2005 18:59

llSetTarget seems to be broken too

milady Guillaume

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Join date: 28 Dec 2003

Posts: 696

11-21-2005 19:13

What is really strange, is i see myself sitting on the prim off to the side, or on top, or off in another direction. Anyone with me sees me sitting on the prim correctly.

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Stroker Serpentine

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Join date: 8 Nov 2003

Posts: 202

Sit bug

11-21-2005 19:26

I have been told this has been happening every since the 1.7 update. Only sporadically.
Now It seems it is more widespread and its effecting everything. I am very disappointed that this has not been fixed. I guess transparent textures are more important than being able to sit properly *shrugs*

SuezanneC Baskerville

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11-21-2005 20:25

I am seeing this problem , with just a simple default cube. Sitting on it I appear to be a meter away from it. Moving the box with the mouse causes the av to assume the correction postion.

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Moriz Gupte

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11-21-2005 20:32

what is more intriguing at least to me is that this seems to be a client side issue
/111/64/73025/1.html#post758500

Bertha Horton

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Join date: 19 Sep 2005

Posts: 835

11-21-2005 21:10

Just before today's update, every time I sat on a teleport prim, the prim vanishes (but does not die) and it only reappears sporadically. (I know I'm porting about 200-250m up; maybe the distance is aggrevating it?)

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ReallyRick Metropolitan

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11-22-2005 00:37

Not that it helps but if you change groups it seems to fix it for now.

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Craig Altman

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11-22-2005 01:39

Ive had this prob since 1.7 also, but since yesterdays patch its ALL the time, I have done bug reports and given up trying to make, use or place poseballs for now.

Yes it does seem to be client side, I and 3 other people sat on 4 poseballs on a bench, all were correctly placed before 1.7, and the snapshots then taken by these 4 people all showed us in different places, only one person had a correct shot

PetGirl Bergman

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Join date: 16 Feb 2005

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11-22-2005 01:42

No idea to sit down at all.. My life in SL are standing from now on

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Yes Craig.. same prob at my place.. my places.. al lover. Inlcuding the sit command without balls...

Stroker Serpentine

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Join date: 8 Nov 2003

Posts: 202

Sit bug

11-22-2005 08:27

From: Craig Altman

Ive had this prob since 1.7 also, but since yesterdays patch its ALL the time, I have done bug reports and given up trying to make, use or place poseballs for now.

Yes it does seem to be client side, I and 3 other people sat on 4 poseballs on a bench, all were correctly placed before 1.7, and the snapshots then taken by these 4 people all showed us in different places, only one person had a correct shot

Ditto Craig..dont look for any new anims from a good portion of the animators. Most cannot get a decent rotation to put it in a ball or link it to an object.

Lora Morgan

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Join date: 19 Mar 2004

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11-22-2005 09:23

This happens to me, and it seems to be random. I could be on the cube, diagonal, or completely off it, like a meter away in the air.

<shudders to think what's happening with sex animations>

Blueman Steele

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Join date: 28 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,038

11-22-2005 12:24

From: Lora Morgan

This happens to me, and it seems to be random. I could be on the cube, diagonal, or completely off it, like a meter away in the air.

<shudders to think what's happening with sex animations>

*scene in bedroom

Darling.. I have some tasty animations for us!

Oooo *giggle lets go!

**clothes fly off**

it:

==== couple suddenly appears outside of room =====

0.o

Dustin Pomeray

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Join date: 14 Sep 2005

Posts: 66

11-22-2005 13:38

It does appear to be client side.. all of my helicopers are ruined on my end - but when I ask someone else to sit they say it is fine for them (but I see them way off somewhere else)

Ferran Brodsky

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Join date: 3 Feb 2004

Posts: 821

11-22-2005 13:49

it's a viewer bug, changing your set group will refresh the draw and auto correct it.....

yeah still a bug but at least this is a quick fix...

Also works for those invis AVs where all you see is floating attachments... just change your active group...

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Persephone Milk

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11-22-2005 14:36

I have noticed this problem as well. I suspect it has something to do with the way that animations and poses are priortized for streaming.

A friend of mine was inspecting her stores - rapidly teleporting from one store to the next. She messaged me saying that all of her furniture was broken, none of the sits were working. Then she told me she found a store where they were working ... same furniture (script and pose) ... just a different location. She teleported me in, and just as I was arriving she sat down in one of the "working chairs" and said, "see, they work here." Problem is, for me, she was sitting 10 feet away from the chair, and upside down.

I suspected the pose just hadn't streamed to me yet, but had already streamed to her. I asked her to get up and try again. It worked. So we teleported back to her house. Same problem. But one minute later, the poses worked.

Since it can now take forever for some textures to download, and some never do, I can imagine the same kind of thing happening for poses and animations. When I teleport into a club, it takes forever to see people dancing. Much, much longer than ever before. And lots of people complain about freezing (even though we see them moving) and vice versa.

I don't think any of my rambling here has helped you, but maybe it sheds a bit more light on the problem.

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milady Guillaume

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11-22-2005 19:29

Fix: Sit on the object...go into edit and move it slightly. The av will move into the correct position and all is right with the SL world!

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Craig Altman

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Join date: 11 Nov 2004

Posts: 131

11-22-2005 23:32

Not too sure about the not streaming the animation thing, the bug is still present if you go sit on a wall or other object which does not even have a script+anim inside, you still sit miles away from the right place in mid air

October Brotherhood

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Join date: 24 Jun 2005

Posts: 70

11-23-2005 09:35

i've been having this problem for two days now. LL acknowledged this yet?

Bella Rosencrans

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Join date: 15 Jan 2005

Posts: 32

11-23-2005 10:55

Actually I just came to forum to ask if it was just me... and I'm delighted to see that it ISN'T just me having the problem. Cause that means the lindens have to deal with it.
Its really frustrating

Now I haven't been able to test if the group thing does the trick, of course my av sits correctly just when I want her not too. Murphys law.

The other solution. The edit one, sounds to me as a bad way of solving the problem cause that won't help if the object you're trying to sit on isn't yours. lol

I sure hope they will fix this.. its a little annoying to sit on the table or in the air, when all you want is sit next to your partner on a couch!?!?! hehe

EDIT: oh well now I had the chance to try the group thing. And yes that does seem to work out. But will it look right to others than myself?

Sitting behavior different after update?
Moriz Gupte Registered User Join date: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 103	11-21-2005 18:23 I just found that when i sit on objects on my group land, I never sit on the objects but somewhere on the side and above the objects. Is this a known issue? new bug?
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	bugged 11-21-2005 18:38 It appears to be a bug. Or they have changed the way llSitTarget() works, without telling anyone. _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Moriz Gupte Registered User Join date: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 103	11-21-2005 18:59 llSetTarget seems to be broken too
milady Guillaume Shhhh, I'm researching! Join date: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 696	11-21-2005 19:13 What is really strange, is i see myself sitting on the prim off to the side, or on top, or off in another direction. Anyone with me sees me sitting on the prim correctly. _____________________
Stroker Serpentine Unadultercated Join date: 8 Nov 2003 Posts: 202	Sit bug 11-21-2005 19:26 I have been told this has been happening every since the 1.7 update. Only sporadically. Now It seems it is more widespread and its effecting everything. I am very disappointed that this has not been fixed. I guess transparent textures are more important than being able to sit properly shrugs
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	11-21-2005 20:25 I am seeing this problem , with just a simple default cube. Sitting on it I appear to be a meter away from it. Moving the box with the mouse causes the av to assume the correction postion. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Moriz Gupte Registered User Join date: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 103	11-21-2005 20:32 what is more intriguing at least to me is that this seems to be a client side issue /111/64/73025/1.html#post758500
Bertha Horton Fat w/ Ice Cream Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 835	11-21-2005 21:10 Just before today's update, every time I sat on a teleport prim, the prim vanishes (but does not die) and it only reappears sporadically. (I know I'm porting about 200-250m up; maybe the distance is aggrevating it?) _____________________ Trapped in a world she never made!
ReallyRick Metropolitan Yes it's really me. Join date: 4 Jun 2005 Posts: 691	11-22-2005 00:37 Not that it helps but if you change groups it seems to fix it for now. _____________________
Craig Altman Second Life Resident Join date: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 131	11-22-2005 01:39 Ive had this prob since 1.7 also, but since yesterdays patch its ALL the time, I have done bug reports and given up trying to make, use or place poseballs for now. Yes it does seem to be client side, I and 3 other people sat on 4 poseballs on a bench, all were correctly placed before 1.7, and the snapshots then taken by these 4 people all showed us in different places, only one person had a correct shot
PetGirl Bergman Fellow Creature:-) Join date: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,414	11-22-2005 01:42 No idea to sit down at all.. My life in SL are standing from now on)) Yes Craig.. same prob at my place.. my places.. al lover. Inlcuding the sit command without balls...
Stroker Serpentine Unadultercated Join date: 8 Nov 2003 Posts: 202	Sit bug 11-22-2005 08:27 From: Craig Altman Ive had this prob since 1.7 also, but since yesterdays patch its ALL the time, I have done bug reports and given up trying to make, use or place poseballs for now. Yes it does seem to be client side, I and 3 other people sat on 4 poseballs on a bench, all were correctly placed before 1.7, and the snapshots then taken by these 4 people all showed us in different places, only one person had a correct shot Ditto Craig..dont look for any new anims from a good portion of the animators. Most cannot get a decent rotation to put it in a ball or link it to an object.
Lora Morgan Puts the "eek" in "geek" Join date: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 779	11-22-2005 09:23 This happens to me, and it seems to be random. I could be on the cube, diagonal, or completely off it, like a meter away in the air. <shudders to think what's happening with sex animations>
Blueman Steele Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,038	11-22-2005 12:24 From: Lora Morgan This happens to me, and it seems to be random. I could be on the cube, diagonal, or completely off it, like a meter away in the air. <shudders to think what's happening with sex animations> scene in bedroom Darling.. I have some tasty animations for us! Oooo giggle lets go! clothes fly off it: ==== couple suddenly appears outside of room ===== 0.o
Dustin Pomeray that airplane guy Join date: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 66	11-22-2005 13:38 It does appear to be client side.. all of my helicopers are ruined on my end - but when I ask someone else to sit they say it is fine for them (but I see them way off somewhere else)
Ferran Brodsky Better living through rum Join date: 3 Feb 2004 Posts: 821	11-22-2005 13:49 it's a viewer bug, changing your set group will refresh the draw and auto correct it..... yeah still a bug but at least this is a quick fix... Also works for those invis AVs where all you see is floating attachments... just change your active group... _____________________ Phobos Design in Chaos. Clothing, Animations.........and stuff for freaks Posting, and you!
Persephone Milk Very Persenickety! Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 870	11-22-2005 14:36 I have noticed this problem as well. I suspect it has something to do with the way that animations and poses are priortized for streaming. A friend of mine was inspecting her stores - rapidly teleporting from one store to the next. She messaged me saying that all of her furniture was broken, none of the sits were working. Then she told me she found a store where they were working ... same furniture (script and pose) ... just a different location. She teleported me in, and just as I was arriving she sat down in one of the "working chairs" and said, "see, they work here." Problem is, for me, she was sitting 10 feet away from the chair, and upside down. I suspected the pose just hadn't streamed to me yet, but had already streamed to her. I asked her to get up and try again. It worked. So we teleported back to her house. Same problem. But one minute later, the poses worked. Since it can now take forever for some textures to download, and some never do, I can imagine the same kind of thing happening for poses and animations. When I teleport into a club, it takes forever to see people dancing. Much, much longer than ever before. And lots of people complain about freezing (even though we see them moving) and vice versa. I don't think any of my rambling here has helped you, but maybe it sheds a bit more light on the problem. _____________________ ~ Persephone Milk ~ Please visit my stores on Persenickety Isle Musical Alchemy - Pianos, harps and other musical intruments. Persenickety! - Ladies Eyewear, Jewelry and Clothing Fashions
milady Guillaume Shhhh, I'm researching! Join date: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 696	11-22-2005 19:29 Fix: Sit on the object...go into edit and move it slightly. The av will move into the correct position and all is right with the SL world! _____________________
Craig Altman Second Life Resident Join date: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 131	11-22-2005 23:32 Not too sure about the not streaming the animation thing, the bug is still present if you go sit on a wall or other object which does not even have a script+anim inside, you still sit miles away from the right place in mid air
October Brotherhood Registered User Join date: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 70	11-23-2005 09:35 i've been having this problem for two days now. LL acknowledged this yet?
Bella Rosencrans Registered User Join date: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 32	11-23-2005 10:55 Actually I just came to forum to ask if it was just me... and I'm delighted to see that it ISN'T just me having the problem. Cause that means the lindens have to deal with it. Its really frustrating Now I haven't been able to test if the group thing does the trick, of course my av sits correctly just when I want her not too. Murphys law. The other solution. The edit one, sounds to me as a bad way of solving the problem cause that won't help if the object you're trying to sit on isn't yours. lol I sure hope they will fix this.. its a little annoying to sit on the table or in the air, when all you want is sit next to your partner on a couch!?!?! hehe EDIT: oh well now I had the chance to try the group thing. And yes that does seem to work out. But will it look right to others than myself?

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