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Ameretto Fredericks
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09-03-2005 02:44
I'd like to know a good way to create soft wrinkles and creases (ie. cowel neck or back) for tops and dresses.
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Quin Quatro
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09-05-2005 10:12
There are tons of ways to do this. I can't wait to see what others are doing, too.
For me, I just figured out a really neat and easy way to make a crease Photoshop.... I simply made a new layer of my clothing article, deleted one half of it along the line where I wanted the crease, and then applied a light drop shadow and bevel and emboss to the new layer (via layer styles). I did a ruffled skirt that way with mutliple 'creases' and it turned out great. But, like I said, there are TONS of ways to do things in photoshop. So, I'm sure there are many other ways. I'd also be interested in hearing how folks have done wrinkles. So far, mine are either brought in via an actual image or I paint them on, some not as sucessful as others. I'd love to see a more level and consistent approach to wrinkles. |
crucial Armitage
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09-05-2005 10:40
quin that's a great idea. i personally have used real life pics in the past and done some very fancy clone painting. or had used the burn and dodge tools to draw them in by hand. witch unless you have tons of practice doing can be a real pain.
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Ameretto Fredericks
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Thank you!!
09-05-2005 11:29
Thank you both so much. I can't wait to see more responses!
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09-05-2005 20:10
There are tons of ways to do this. I can't wait to see what others are doing, too. For me, I just figured out a really neat and easy way to make a crease Photoshop.... I simply made a new layer of my clothing article, deleted one half of it along the line where I wanted the crease, and then applied a light drop shadow and bevel and emboss to the new layer (via layer styles). I did a ruffled skirt that way with mutliple 'creases' and it turned out great. But, like I said, there are TONS of ways to do things in photoshop. So, I'm sure there are many other ways. I'd also be interested in hearing how folks have done wrinkles. So far, mine are either brought in via an actual image or I paint them on, some not as sucessful as others. I'd love to see a more level and consistent approach to wrinkles. Wow. This tip is going to my tip folder. ![]() _____________________
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Quin Quatro
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09-06-2005 08:48
any chance do you have picture of that skirt? I'd like to see what it looks like using the technique you used Sure, I attached my promo for a sneak peek sale I did... It's not out in stores yet... I'm also including the top portion of the actual template file (half size) to show you what it came from--there are essentially four layers for the back and front sections, all with the same drop shadow and bevel and emboss. I also played with offseting the flower pattern position on each layer so it wouldn't appear too uniform. |
Ameretto Fredericks
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Awesome!!
09-06-2005 09:34
That really helps! Thank you. What about like around the waist and on the back of a shirt?
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09-06-2005 19:21
Sure, I attached my promo for a sneak peek sale I did... It's not out in stores yet... I'm also including the top portion of the actual template file (half size) to show you what it came from--there are essentially four layers for the back and front sections, all with the same drop shadow and bevel and emboss. I also played with offseting the flower pattern position on each layer so it wouldn't appear too uniform. Very helpful, your skirt looks very impressive! Maybe one time you can put up a tutorial on how to do it? God knows it's hard to root out all the photoshop clothe's tutorials / hints in the forum. _____________________
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Quin Quatro
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09-06-2005 21:50
Thanks, there's so much you can do with photoshop, it's really amazing--and so many ways to do one thing.
I just finished a pair of chinos with the crease so I thought you might like to see it. The drop shadow is really the main thing here, especially with the white--bevel and emboss was applied but really only show up on darker clothes. I could add color to these chinos in the appearance panel, but the best way would be to work the color in photoshop, so the bevel/emboss gets a better effect. Anyway, the 'crease' in the chinos is simply a drop shadow in between layers. I had the shadow go lightly in one direction, which looks awesome when it matches local lighting in SL, but when local lighting is opposite it looks ok, but odd!! you can't have it both ways, though!! (btw, the wrinkles and features in the halter top were brought in from a photo. no fancy tricks there--but I'd like to learn of some if anyone knows!) |
Yuriko Muromachi
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09-07-2005 01:38
I should try that one time! *takes note on the bevel and emboss working better with darker clothes*The creases on the chino look natural. I'll have to practice though. If only real life work wouldn't get in the way...
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Keith Extraordinaire
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09-08-2005 15:14
Here is a quick easy and VERY effective Photoshop wrinkle technique I use all the time.
Get your fabric fitted to the template as you need it. Use the burn tool on a light exposure and create the shadows where they would go. Then switch to the dodge tool and go over the top to create the highlights. Walla! Instant wrinkles. Different widths and intensities will give you different effects. The true artistry however comes in putting them where they go. I’d suggest really looking in detail at people in RL and photos wearing clothing and see how fabric drapes and how the light and shadows fall… satin is different than denim… tight is different than loose. I’m at work so I don’t have an in-world pic to show you. If you want to see in used on an in-world garment let me know. Happy wrinkling! KX |
William Withnail
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Specific folding patterns
09-08-2005 15:42
If you're adding wrinkles, I highly recommend this book:
Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery It illustrates the various patterns of wrinkles on various thicknesses of clothing material. It's available at most artstores and bookstores, so if you don't want to spend the money, just peruse it there. |
Lyric Alexander
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09-09-2005 04:38
Hi,
Here's a "lazy" way of doing it. You can download Snow's Cloth Folds, a photoshop style from Renderosity. You may have to register on the site first. But these folds can be applied and adjusted via the bevel/emboss window to the depth you like, then smoothed out with the smudge tool. Its still takes some practice though, because different brushes effect the way the folds/creases come out, but I found it very helpful after spending hours and hours practicing with the burn/dodge technique. My fold would look realistic in photoshop but once uploaded to my avatar, stretched out to just look like dark and light streaks, yuck! (LOL) Anyway here's the link and good luck ![]() (once at the site just type in a search under Free Stuff for "cloth folds" ![]() http://www.renderosity.com/freestuff.ez |
Ben Bacon
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09-09-2005 05:16
I also played with offseting the flower pattern position on each layer so it wouldn't appear too uniform. That offsetting should not be underestimated. You can add all the shadows and highlights you want but on a large-scale pattern like Quin's the offsetting probably add more to the illusion than the shading. As far as the shading is concerned, layers are any photoshop user's best friend. For free-hand drawn creases. instead of dodging/burning your cloth layer, try creating a new layer, set it's mixing mode to "overlay" and painting black for shadows and white for highlights (and greyscales in-between). Or use the multiply and screen mixing modes for similar effects. The main advantage being that you can easily edit the layer afterwards, erasing and redo-ing to your heart's content because you have not modified the cloth texture itself. Also gives you a chance to adjust the opacity of the hi/lo-light layer at a later point. |
Ameretto Fredericks
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Big Smile!!!
09-09-2005 06:19
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE REPLIES!!!! Keep those responses coming!
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Namssor Daguerre
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Yet another method
09-09-2005 07:16
I like to get as much adjustability and "Undo" as possible. Here's the method I use for this effect a lot of the time.
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Lyric Alexander
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09-09-2005 08:18
Namms, that looks very nice
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Keith Extraordinaire
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09-09-2005 08:47
As far as the shading is concerned, layers are any photoshop user's best friend. Great advice Ben! I always make a new layer or duplicate layer for each step of the process. That way you have a history of the making of the garment or texture and you can easily go back in time if you mess something up. Yes you might end up with dozens of layers but when you see something that needs a tweak it’s a godsend. When you are finished with the garment/texture, NEVER flatten it and forget. Keep a backup copy with all the layers separated. You may see something you want to change or uses on something else later and it’s a whole lot easier to use with layers than with just the final image. Oh and don’t forget... LABEL YOU LAYERS...hehehe... otherwise it can become a real mess. KX |
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kewl!
09-09-2005 10:18
Now to figure out how to do it in Gimp!
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Shock Madison
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09-22-2005 17:59
Namssor, that was an awesome tip. Thank you! It seems to work so well!
Now, is "a fade of 300 pixels" obtained by going to the Brushes Palette tab to the right of the Options bar, clicking Shape Dynamics, and setting Control under Size Jitter to Fade and 300? More info please ![]() Also in the attached picture of your post, the folds seem to have different "strengths." Is that accomplished by playing with the options under Shape Dynamics, e.g., setting Size Jitter to Pen Pressure and then varying the pressure of the pen onto the tablet? This seems to kinda work. Oh, another thing--but I think I have the answer to that. Changing the direction of where the light hits the folds is done by going to the Brushes Palette tab, clicking Brush Tip Shape, and changing the Angle to, say, 180 degrees, right? All in all, a great tip and a lot of fun to play with all the possibilities that it opens up. Thank you again! |
Ameretto Fredericks
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Great Tip!!
09-22-2005 20:06
Thank you so much ALL of you for your resopnses. I've been getting notifications via email and i look each time some one answers this is AWESOME!!! Exactly what I was looking for !!!!!
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Namssor Daguerre
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09-23-2005 07:19
Namssor, that was an awesome tip. Thank you! It seems to work so well! Now, is "a fade of 300 pixels" obtained by going to the Brushes Palette tab to the right of the Options bar, clicking Shape Dynamics, and setting Control under Size Jitter to Fade and 300? More info please ![]() Yes, that's close where you make that adjust (see attached image) Also in the attached picture of your post, the folds seem to have different "strengths." Is that accomplished by playing with the options under Shape Dynamics, e.g., setting Size Jitter to Pen Pressure and then varying the pressure of the pen onto the tablet? This seems to kinda work. It is something you have to develop a feel for. It is a combination of 3 things: 1. Brush stroke length 2. Brush fade 3. Lighting direction (controlled under Layer Styles) For more complex folds you will need to separate the brush strokes onto their own layers and adjust the style of each layer. The example I gave earlier had at least 3 layers. Oh, another thing--but I think I have the answer to that. Changing the direction of where the light hits the folds is done by going to the Brushes Palette tab, clicking Brush Tip Shape, and changing the Angle to, say, 180 degrees, right? No, see #3 from above All in all, a great tip and a lot of fun to play with all the possibilities that it opens up. Thank you again! YW ![]() _____________________
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Ben Bertone
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09-26-2005 06:42
i dont see know shape dynamics in the pallet
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Namssor Daguerre
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09-26-2005 06:54
i dont see know shape dynamics in the pallet What version of PS are you working with? _____________________
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10-01-2005 15:50
Keith, I am looking through all of the oprions and cant seem to find the Burn tool to create a simple wrinkle before i dodge it.
I have looked in PS7 and CS WOuld like ot try that trick seems easy enough, lol ![]() Please and thanks, Keith EDIT: Keith have helped with it in SL, THANKS KEITH |