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skinny AVs don't sell

Lizbeth Marlowe
The ORIGINAL "Demo Girl"
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 544
08-17-2005 11:18
I too don't care what the model looks like in SL, I know the clothes will fit my av just fine.

Even the ones from Zaige, I've got a few!

Now, RL...that's another story...I won't buy clothes that are only modeled on the prepubescent boy style model. I think it's gross and a disservice to women...but there is history behind this decision...

Back in the day that runway modeling began...the clothing designers had Marilyn Monroe types modeling their clothes and found that the models were getting more attention than the clothes! This couldn't be tolerated...so they switched to Twiggy's and Kate's in hopes that the clothes would get the attention...not realizing that they had the power to set a new standard...

Can we get some Marilyn's and some Rita's and some '40's style models back on the runway???
Jef Ambassador
Empathetic Extropian
Join date: 1 May 2005
Posts: 9
08-17-2005 12:45
By coincidence, today's NY Times has an article on the fashion industry moving away from waifish models:

Everyday Products, Ads Using the Everyday Woman

BTW, I like full-figured women. :cool:

- Jef
Alaska Metropolitan
Fashion Addict
Join date: 5 Jun 2005
Posts: 259
08-18-2005 00:30
I kind of resent being told all the time that I'm not a REAL woman simply because I take care of my body. If REAL women come in all shapes and sizes, doesn't that include skinny as well? I don't go around telling heavier people that they're unhealthy looking.

SL models, by the way, don't have eating disorders. Or they have extremely severe anorexia, depending on how you look at it. They don't eat at all. All thin SL models are promoting is the idea of moving a slider father to the left. ;)

I've seen models in SL in clothing ads of all shapes and sizes. Most of the time, SL models are a LOT curvier than their RL counterparts. Perhaps this is due to the provocative *cough*slutty*cough* nature of much of SL fashion. To tell the turth, I am far more likely to notice bad body proportions on a SL model in an ad than I am their actual shape.

SL clothes aren't going to look good on curvier shapes until they have more polygons added to them. Skirts seem to be the worst culprit... and they look crappy on EVERYONE with the mesh SL uses right now. I hope they fix that soon. Designers can't do a hell of a lot about it.

EDIT: I don't think they used Twiggy as a model (who started the "waif" thing) to draw attention AWAY from the model TO the clothing. She was really the first supermodel, and an icon of her time.
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
08-18-2005 09:29
From: Alaska Metropolitan
I kind of resent being told all the time that I'm not a REAL woman simply because I take care of my body. If REAL women come in all shapes and sizes, doesn't that include skinny as well? I don't go around telling heavier people that they're unhealthy looking.

SL models, by the way, don't have eating disorders. Or they have extremely severe anorexia, depending on how you look at it. They don't eat at all. All thin SL models are promoting is the idea of moving a slider father to the left. ;)

I've seen models in SL in clothing ads of all shapes and sizes. Most of the time, SL models are a LOT curvier than their RL counterparts. Perhaps this is due to the provocative *cough*slutty*cough* nature of much of SL fashion. To tell the turth, I am far more likely to notice bad body proportions on a SL model in an ad than I am their actual shape.

SL clothes aren't going to look good on curvier shapes until they have more polygons added to them. Skirts seem to be the worst culprit... and they look crappy on EVERYONE with the mesh SL uses right now. I hope they fix that soon. Designers can't do a hell of a lot about it.

EDIT: I don't think they used Twiggy as a model (who started the "waif" thing) to draw attention AWAY from the model TO the clothing. She was really the first supermodel, and an icon of her time.


IRL im full figured, Id love to be slimmer, and Im working on it. Id like to comment on this.

Of course skinny/slimmer women are real women!

I wouldnt begrude anyone to have the figure they want in SL. Some curvier women IRL prefer to reflect how they look IRL. Some prefer to reflect how they would like to look. And being slimmer is how many women would like to look.

Hence my Av is quite slim and petite.

If a skinny woman IRL wants to be skinny in SL thats fine. Likewise if a slim woman IRL wants to have a lot of curves.

Yes a lot of the models in SL look more like Lingerie models than fashion models. Thats fine too if thats how women who buy the clothes want to look, though.

I havent found any of problems with clothes looking bad on me even though im quite a bit shorter than most Avs (5'5";)

I did run into a woman with an extremely busty figure she prurchased from one of SL shape makers whose nipples tended to peek out of low cut tops. Since the shape was NO MOD she couldnt adjust her breasts to alieviate this.

A friend of mine made her some mod Pasties - i dont know how good a solution this was but was the only thing we could think of , since she was very attached to her pricey shape.
Posh Honey
Renaissance Woman
Join date: 8 May 2005
Posts: 6
08-18-2005 18:32
Not sure if i got to get my point across in all the controversey. I would like to see a variety of shapes modeling clothes. To show versatility and be customer friendly.

Also.. I think you assumed that only thin women are healthy. On the contrary, fat is needed by the body to insulate, cushion organs, and for energy reserves. So, skinny can be unhealthy.
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Ryntha Suavage
Kitten
Join date: 4 Jul 2004
Posts: 419
08-18-2005 19:07
Great reply Posh, I agree with your last post.

I really enjoy seeing varying shapes as models for products as well. It makes things interesting and stimulating. I have no personal qualms with rotund or bony figures, though I do become irritated when the size becomes a constant theme. (However, I know most people fear change and difference.. even in visuals. I think my opinion here is really the minority here.) I personally go out and pick models to pose for my clothing advertisements for this reason. It is relieving to see something different from time to time. This really does not affect whether or not I purchase something to a noticable degree. I may become bored if I follow a particular designer who remains too consistent and proliferate with the models' look. I have somewhat slacked off on following a few designers because they seem to refuse change. Still, if the outfit is truly eyecatching I will always pick it up. :)
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