New feature idea : To combat store scammers.
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Wrom Morrison
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06-19-2006 05:26
Under land options, similar to "Allow outside script", "Allow Create Objects", I think it would be a good idea if LL implemented an option to Allow/disallow money transactions between people on that given land. So a store owner could set it up so that only transactions between the store owner/group members and customers are allowed while all other outside transactions are not allowed on that land. This would kill the majority of the new scams. Further suggestions? EDIT: Feature Proposal -> /13/1e/114917/1.htmlVOTE HERE
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CJ Carnot
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06-19-2006 05:29
That's a very smart idea Wrom.
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Kris Ritter
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06-19-2006 05:34
that is a smart idea. Though it isn't going to stop people convincing others to pay them via their profile direct, and I don't see LL allowing control over that particular avenue for payment, but it will stop a lot of passing off scams where the goods are set for sale. If you make a vote proposal I'll lend my support and 157 alts to it 
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ninjafoo Ng
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06-19-2006 06:11
What about people buying things for friends - currently best way is to shop together and then give cash to friend just before purchase.
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Jon Rolland
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06-19-2006 06:13
From: Kris Ritter that is a smart idea. Though it isn't going to stop people convincing others to pay them via their profile direct, and I don't see LL allowing control over that particular avenue for payment, but it will stop a lot of passing off scams where the goods are set for sale. If you make a vote proposal I'll lend my support and 157 alts to it  If both the person paying and the person or object being paid is on no transaction land the transaction fails.
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CJ Carnot
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06-19-2006 06:20
From: ninjafoo Ng What about people buying things for friends - currently best way is to shop together and then give cash to friend just before purchase. Wouldn't you rather to be able to buy from my store in complete confidence ? Personally, I would script an exchange box that would allow you to easily transfer money to anyone else, such as your friend, in the shop. As the entire transaction then goes through me, it would be allowed. Alternatively, just step off my land for a minute.
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Kris Ritter
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06-19-2006 06:28
From: Jon Rolland If both the person paying and the person or object being paid is on no transaction land the transaction fails. That might be going a step too far. I don't think there is any need to cripple person to person transfers just because one of you is on land the owner has decided should be no transaction. That would just be a royal pain in the ass. But what I got from Wroms original suggestion was that it was mainly to stop people rezzing something for someone else to pay while passing it off as a legitimate store item. Seriously, if the suggestion is as you described above, then no, I wouldn't lend my support to the proposal.
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Jon Rolland
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06-19-2006 06:32
From: Kris Ritter I don't think there is any need to cripple person to person transfers just because one of you is on land the owner has decided should be no transaction. That would just be a royal pain in the ass. Agreed. Maybe I wasn't clear enough not one of you BOTH of you. All the transaction needs is for 1 of you to step onto an adjacent parcel.
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Kris Ritter
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06-19-2006 06:50
From: Jon Rolland Agreed. Maybe I wasn't clear enough not one of you BOTH of you. All the transaction needs is for 1 of you to step onto an adjacent parcel. Well, yes, that'd work if it's practical to implement it. I don't know that it's so much of an issue as being able to place out bogus goods in someone elses store, but certainly if it can be done without being a major PITA, then I guess stepping on both possibilities is good. Though I gotta say frankly even the noobiest of naive noobs should have alarm bells ringing if a store assistant (not the owner, thats different) asks you to put the cash in their pocket instead of paying the store!
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Jon Rolland
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06-19-2006 06:57
From: Kris Ritter Though I gotta say frankly even the noobiest of naive noobs should have alarm bells ringing if a store assistant (not the owner, thats different) asks you to put the cash in their pocket instead of paying the store! Why? We pay clerks all the time in RL. I think to a serious newbie it's reasonable to think you pay an employee who gives you your purchase. But I think it would blow the appearance of legitimacy if the "manager" had to leave the store to accept your money or ask you to leave to pay him.
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ninjafoo Ng
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06-19-2006 07:03
From: CJ Carnot Personally, I would script an exchange box that would allow you to easily transfer money to anyone else, such as your friend, in the shop. As the entire transaction then goes through me, it would be allowed. Not playing, there is no trust between me and you. In fact, as you're a seller, I trust you less than everybody else (which is why you go to such lengths to make a pleasing shop) From: CJ Carnot Alternatively, just step off my land for a minute. Seriously? You are prepared for customers to leave your shop to sort out cash, and maybe come back? Sorry but you've just lost a sale.
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Wrom Morrison
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06-19-2006 17:45
Proposal created and voting enabled.
Go vote if you want a perm fix for in-store scamming.
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