Picture Taking In SL
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Carmilla Mirabeau
~Pixel Hoe~
Join date: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 121
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05-12-2006 06:57
Greetings. Im fairly new to SL and enjoy the picture taking options. I love to take pictures in RW and SL This place has so many creative and cool things that I thought to document my time here and post them on http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/I was approched by someone that possibly it is a form of hijacking or taking without someones permission. Im not a designer, just a avie who likes to shop and take pictures. Im not out to offend anyone. When posting to snapzilla the viewer of the pic has the option to teleport to that area. Someone thinks its nice they might want to see it for themselves. It was not my intention to break any rules. This is the first time someone has said anything to me. Any suggestions? thanks Carmilla
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Starax Statosky
Unregistered User
Join date: 23 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,099
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05-12-2006 07:01
I suggest you keep up the good work!
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Siobhan Taylor
Nemesis
Join date: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 5,476
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05-12-2006 07:02
Never heard of it being a problem before. There are lots of blogs out there documenting people's wanderings through SL. If you take photos of people, it's courtesy to get permission before publishing, but not places. That's just silly.
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Cindy Claveau
Gignowanasanafonicon
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 2,008
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05-12-2006 07:10
Carmilla, I love that pic you posted. It's a refreshing change from the "Hey look at us, we're dancing w000tzz!" pics that generally populate Snapzilla. Keep it up. To me, courtesy is really nothing more than common sense. If you're in someone's private home, it would be good to ask their permission before uploading the picture (in view of the teleport option). The same with any personal moments, like a couple cuddling. But out in the greater world of SL? Go for it. Take some random trips with your Find menu, look for forests, elves, cities (Las Vegas and New Orleans, among others, are represented in SL), and Dragons! Oh, the Dragons! (Go to the Limbo sim and see for yourself!) I'll be watching for your future efforts. Illegitimi Non Carborundum, baby!
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 07:40
here is my suggestion, if its not a public place like a store or such, just send them to [email]private@slpics.com[/email]. However... in rl as a photographer you have legal rights to take photos. It may surprise you what you can legally take photos of. Take a look http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdfIn SL... if the only problem is that tp option that you are coming across I'd stick with the above suggestion. Im not sure what, if any, legal right we have to take pictures in SL, plus its just polite not to take pictures if someone asks. ill stop by and take a look at your pics, im photo crazy myself 
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
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05-12-2006 08:19
If someone told you taking a pic of there wall and posting it on Zilla is texture theft they are full of shit.
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stpaulsub Clio
Fear the Bubblegum Gurl!
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
Posts: 607
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05-12-2006 09:23
From: Dhalia Unsung here is my suggestion, if its not a public place like a store or such, just send them to [email=private@slpics.com]private@slpics.com[/email]. In SL... if the only problem is that tp option that you are coming across I'd stick with the above suggestion. Im not sure what, if any, legal right we have to take pictures in SL, plus its just polite not to take pictures if someone asks.  i agree with this, in General i ask people before posting them in public, My friends...well they know i'm gunna!  Also, may i suggest the Photgraphy Studio in Grignano there are fun contests there pretty much every month! Keep on taking great pics !
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
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05-12-2006 09:31
From: Dhalia Unsung here is my suggestion, if its not a public place like a store or such, just send them to [email]private@slpics.com[/email]. However... in rl as a photographer you have legal rights to take photos. It may surprise you what you can legally take photos of. Take a look http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdfIn SL... if the only problem is that tp option that you are coming across I'd stick with the above suggestion. Im not sure what, if any, legal right we have to take pictures in SL, plus its just polite not to take pictures if someone asks. ill stop by and take a look at your pics, im photo crazy myself  seriosly.. Im snap happy myself... but anyone who starts getting uppity that you take snaps of there AVATAR in a VIDEO GAME.. like its some kind of an intrusion of privacy needs there bloody heads looked at... also.. if the Slurl works on the bottom of the picture then the sim is set as public.. which in my head would mean visitors welcome.. I really dont see the need for the Privacy@slpics.. infact.. I recall its used so little that Cristiano commented on a pic about the fact that it was used..
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Aces Spade
Raise you One♠
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
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05-12-2006 10:19
Carm, Your pics are amazing keep up the good work  your fine
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Merlyn Bailly
owner, AVALON GALLERIA
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 576
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05-12-2006 12:43
From: Carmilla Mirabeau Greetings. Im fairly new to SL and enjoy the picture taking options. I love to take pictures in RW and SL This place has so many creative and cool things that I thought to document my time here and post them on http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/I was approched by someone that possibly it is a form of hijacking or taking without someones permission. Im not a designer, just a avie who likes to shop and take pictures. Im not out to offend anyone. When posting to snapzilla the viewer of the pic has the option to teleport to that area. Someone thinks its nice they might want to see it for themselves. It was not my intention to break any rules. This is the first time someone has said anything to me. Any suggestions? thanks Carmilla There's a big fuss among people like the hair & clothes designers right now, about TEXTURE THEFT -- what they don't understand is that the program people are using to do this does not require them to take a snapshot -- all someone using it need to do is be close enough for an object to rez completely... thus putting the texture into the computer's cache, which the user can then access later. They also don't want to be told/reminded that most textures in SL are all stolen ANYWAY, but as I'm currently writing an editorial on that for my website, I'll just drop that observation and exit stage right. Taking a screenshot of ANYTHING in SL is not a violation of any kind unless you are using the new camera tricks to violate someone's privacy (like inside their house or private "playpen"  . Don't worry about it, and keep taking your snaps, hon.
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Tony Tigereye
Registered User
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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05-12-2006 13:18
From: Carmilla Mirabeau I was approched by someone that possibly it is a form of hijacking or taking without someones permission. Last time I checked, the Nazis lost the war. Freedom is alive and well. Snap away!
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 14:03
From: Richie Waves I really dont see the need for the Privacy@slpics.. infact.. I recall its used so little that Cristiano commented on a pic about the fact that it was used.. Really?? I use it when I am on my Master's land or somewhere private (hence the private@slpics *giggles*) out of respect for people.
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 14:04
From: stpaulsub Clio Also, may i suggest the Photgraphy Studio in Grignano there are fun contests there pretty much every month! Keep on taking great pics ! ooo yeah dont forget that... i never seem to enter but the contests are fun!
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Kamilah Hauptmann
Um, what?
Join date: 10 Nov 2005
Posts: 122
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05-12-2006 14:33
From: Merlyn Bailly Taking a screenshot of ANYTHING in SL is not a violation of any kind unless you are using the new camera tricks to violate someone's privacy (like inside their house or private "playpen"  . Don't worry about it, and keep taking your snaps, hon. I have an underground area with a few friends sharing tier and the other day someone landed on our 'roof', and ran the camera trick to start snapping pictures of us. No 'Hi, that's cool down there, may I snap a few?" Nothing, not an IM, not a please, just, snap snap through the walls. This person is now banned.  Maybe I'm blind, but can anyone show a TOS fragment that states this sort of intrusion is worthy of an AR? I'd rather not add to sim lag with a defense system if I can get away with it. ~Kami
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 14:46
From: Kamilah Hauptmann I have an underground area with a few friends sharing tier and the other day someone landed on our 'roof', and ran the camera trick to start snapping pictures of us. No 'Hi, that's cool down there, may I snap a few?" Nothing, not an IM, not a please, just, snap snap through the walls. This person is now banned.  Maybe I'm blind, but can anyone show a TOS fragment that states this sort of intrusion is worthy of an AR? I'd rather not add to sim lag with a defense system if I can get away with it. ~Kami Just curious, how do you know he was taking pictures of you? Did you IM him and ask him to stop? I honestly dont blame you for the ban and i dont know of any section in the TOS that says this is wrong.
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Kamilah Hauptmann
Um, what?
Join date: 10 Nov 2005
Posts: 122
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05-12-2006 15:14
From: Dhalia Unsung Just curious, how do you know he was taking pictures of you? Did you IM him and ask him to stop? I honestly dont blame you for the ban and i dont know of any section in the TOS that says this is wrong. Oh, the snapshot animation and the angle of the avatar head.  When we saw another green dot over us we swung our cameras up and there she was, either taking pics through the ground or of the rather boring grass texture. (Yeah right.) One of my roomies IMed, but it took 24 hours of group deliberation before we took a ban action. A 'Hi, may I drop in and see what you're up to?' would more often than not have resulted in a yes, welcome. Manners manners manners >.> ~Kami, not too worried about it, just curious about TOS
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Boliver Oddfellow
CEO Infinite Vision Media
Join date: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 484
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05-12-2006 15:30
Not a bloody thing wrong with pic snapping in public places! In fact we invite any interested photogs to come to Dublin sim, take all the pics you want we built it for you to enjoy. In fact very shortly there will be a note carded walking tour of historic Dublin I urge you all to enjoy and snap all ya like
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 15:34
From: Kamilah Hauptmann Oh, the snapshot animation and the angle of the avatar head.  When we saw another green dot over us ... ive never seen a green dot, but i didnt really look either, does that mean wherever the picture is being taken a green dot appears? you must have been really exciting to have pictures taken of you! 
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Kamilah Hauptmann
Um, what?
Join date: 10 Nov 2005
Posts: 122
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05-12-2006 15:47
From: Dhalia Unsung ive never seen a green dot, but i didnt really look either, does that mean wherever the picture is being taken a green dot appears? *laughs* The minimap dear, the minimap. From: Dhalia Unsung you must have been really exciting to have pictures taken of you!  *cough* Well, it didn't involve sex pose balls but our builds are pretty strange. But research says: From: someone 4.1 You agree to abide by certain rules of conduct, including the Community Standards and other rules prohibiting illegal and other practices that Linden Lab deems harmful. You agree to read and comply with the Community Standards posted on the Websites, (for users 18 years of age and older, at http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php; and for users of the Teen Area, at http://teen.secondlife.com/footer/cs), as currently posted and as amended from time to time in Linden Lab's sole discretion. In addition to abiding at all times by the Community Standards, you agree that you shall not: (x) "stalk", abuse or attempt to abuse, or otherwise harass another user. That's not super helpful unless it's -clearly communicated- to said person who's making the photographic subject uncomfortable. I don't know, maybe it merits a poll, is snapping pictures of the goings on in a private residence without permission 'harassment'? It looks to me that the responsibility lands on the land owners to communicate an expected code of conduct to visitors. We'll think of something for our little underground complex/sandbox. ~Kami
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Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
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05-12-2006 16:15
From: Kamilah Hauptmann *laughs* The minimap dear, the minimap.
oh OH! Im so sorry, just a little dense at times  That makes MUCH more sense!
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Nepenthes Ixchel
Broadly Offended.
Join date: 6 Dec 2005
Posts: 696
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05-12-2006 20:09
From: Merlyn Bailly They also don't want to be told/reminded that most textures in SL are all stolen ANYWAY, but as I'm currently writing an editorial on that for my website, I'll just drop that observation and exit stage right. In the case of hair, I believe most (probably all) the big designers use textures they made. A very close friend in SL makes hair, and I know her textures were all handpainted by another friend (who happens to be a professional graphic artist and texture designer) So while the bulk of textures in SL are probably stolen or from legal free-use archives I don't think that holds for the textures used by the high-end content creators.
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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,037
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05-13-2006 00:50
From: Carmilla Mirabeau Greetings. Im fairly new to SL and enjoy the picture taking options. I love to take pictures in RW and SL This place has so many creative and cool things that I thought to document my time here and post them on http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/I was approched by someone that possibly it is a form of hijacking or taking without someones permission. Im not a designer, just a avie who likes to shop and take pictures. Im not out to offend anyone. When posting to snapzilla the viewer of the pic has the option to teleport to that area. Someone thinks its nice they might want to see it for themselves. It was not my intention to break any rules. This is the first time someone has said anything to me. Any suggestions? thanks Carmilla My advice? Ignore them completely, and if they won't take the hint, ignore them with a snarfy attitude.
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Carmilla Mirabeau
~Pixel Hoe~
Join date: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 121
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05-13-2006 04:52
From: stpaulsub Clio i agree with this, in General i ask people before posting them in public, My friends...well they know i'm gunna!  Also, may i suggest the Photgraphy Studio in Grignano there are fun contests there pretty much every month! Keep on taking great pics ! I am presently a member of the studio group  . Thank you for your kind words 
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Carmilla Mirabeau
~Pixel Hoe~
Join date: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 121
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05-13-2006 04:53
From: Cindy Claveau Carmilla, I love that pic you posted. It's a refreshing change from the "Hey look at us, we're dancing w000tzz!" pics that generally populate Snapzilla. Keep it up. To me, courtesy is really nothing more than common sense. If you're in someone's private home, it would be good to ask their permission before uploading the picture (in view of the teleport option). The same with any personal moments, like a couple cuddling. But out in the greater world of SL? Go for it. Take some random trips with your Find menu, look for forests, elves, cities (Las Vegas and New Orleans, among others, are represented in SL), and Dragons! Oh, the Dragons! (Go to the Limbo sim and see for yourself!) I'll be watching for your future efforts. Illegitimi Non Carborundum, baby! Thanks! Which picture are you referring too? *g* Thanks for the info!
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Carmilla Mirabeau
~Pixel Hoe~
Join date: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 121
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05-13-2006 04:54
From: Aces Spade Carm, Your pics are amazing keep up the good work  your fine Hugs you! Yours too! 
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