Little issue with rude existing users

Hello,

I was recommended SL by my neighbor. We've been playing online games off and on. I tried WoW, Lineage II and now SecondLife.

I found the free registration process interesting, but my purpose to be here was to build, and create aircrafts that I can actually fly unlike in Maya, own land and possibly sell/give free the builds.

Now, I have heard a lot about this registration process. And I understand what most people are talking about. But here is something to consider.

From the moment I came into SL, I was met by rude and arrogant people. I am net savvy enough to check their profiles. Most of the rude people were those born on 2005 or 2004.

I was asked or told the following things:

"Hey kid get the **** out of here, we dont want teens here"

"Who the **** are you? " -- resulting in me being flown off somewhere I have no idea.

"N**** you need to die b***th" ( !? no idea I got a very elvis presley like avatar.)

"Im gonna AR u for looking at me" (-- I have no idea but I was not even looking at this person, I was reading a note card on building. I learned this ment abuse report (edit) -- this person had a b'day of 2004 btw, and didn't look that hot for a lady -- shrug).

Now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm 30 years old, I work in the aerospace field, I play games on my free time, I'm certainly not a teen, neither did I expect someone in game to respond to me so negatively just cause of how my avatar looks (yes I look newbie, I will get my neighbors help on fixing that), and the date of my registration.

I find the game pretty much full of biased elitists, that can't accept the fact that a newbie could be here to learn, build and enjoy the game other than their preconceived definition of what a newbie is (ie: teen, into messing with people, scamming etc, or a racial minority <-- strange).

So for all on this forum, first of Hello, nice to meet you all, and next, calm down, and don't be rude to us newbies. I doubt even 10% of newbies are into what you claim we are into. I find it very frustrating not getting info cause of all the biases associated.

Kind Regards,

Lost Newcomb

More alts. Wonderful.

Funny how I have been here 3 plus years, and never heard anyone talk to random new people like that.

Neighbor indeed.

Time to take a vacation from this clusterfuck.

Later.

IM me in world dude. IM just about anyone on the forums, really, they're mostly good folks.

You have to understand, right now, thanks to the ***ed up registration system, no one has any particular reason to believe that any new account is NOT either a teen, griefer, alt, or some combination of the three. As a result, people are on edge with newly created accounts. It wasn't always liek this.

What Warda said -- but from my own perspective, I have tried very hard not to pre-judge people based on their SL birth date. I may still check their birthdate (something I didn't do before 6/6) but I will always give them a chance to show themselves as decent people before I pass judgment. It sounds like Mr Newcomb ran into some people who've felt the stress of daily griefing attacks from newborn residents.

Mr. Newcomb, feel free to IM me in world. I would be very happy to give you advice, help, landmarks and welcome you to Second Life.

Oh, and aircraft are fun -- I own a hot air balloon and a jet bike, myself, though the jet bike is a problem flying through built up areas. Either the sim lines stop me or I bump into security fences. But there are places to go, even yet. Have you joined any of the flyers' clubs in SL? Check in the "Groups" tab of your "Find" button.

To the OP: Listen to Warda.

Also could you please explain where you were at when you had these reactions? There are some areas in world less friendly than others. You might have just gotten unlucky. One of the other not quite so know aspects of the new system is that every one of the old telehub locations that survived the udpate to an infohub, is now also a welcome area.

When a newb enters the mainland from Orientation Island or Help Island they are given a random landmark from one of these Infohubs in addition to the previous landmarks form the welcome areas. Someone who goes LOOK at all these new "enter the world" locations will realize a lot of them are on the border of slum XXX escort and greif zones. Not a place new people SHOULD be entering the game at. My regrets that you were unlucky enough to get one of these non standard entrance points and find yourself in a neighborhood that wasnt a welcome zone just a month earlier. You're the victim of a failed experiment and the community apologizes.

Thanks Luciftias, I will look you up next time I'm in.

This is what I'm speaking of the type of language used by Nolan Nash is exactly how people are being treated when your new now. Yes you could have been playing the game for 3 years , but not recently right?

Cindy, if you know any offline resources on a easy way to enable physics in an aircraft let me know. I have asked and someone said this is something I'd need to make my builds fly. I checked the script forum but it's very slow to search there. What I'm looking for, I suppose is a flight control type automation? I normally just do the model and not sure how the physics and flight controls work, I'm guessing it has to do with scripting?]

Seronis, I found these comments by flying around my home base. I looked at my radar saw the green dots and went to talk to them, and usually get greeted by this way even if I don't initiate the conversation. I'm used to playing games where you inititally travel to the dots on the map. I like flying and exploring, but now I've figured it's a good idea to avoid people unless they are friendly.

I was put at place callled Korea1 ?

I may be old, jaded, cynical, and frustated with how things are going recently in Second Life like the rest of us "Elitest Existing Residents"...but I have not lost my sense of basic human decency and respect.

I apologize to you for all the, majority, of existing users that know how to act around people and remember a basic and simple principle of not pre-judging a person. I am very sorry you had to recieve that image of us and of Second Life from people who in Real Life I expect know better.

Yes, there is a lot of frustration in Second Life right now by long standing residents. We have been here for years and put a lot of time, money, and love into this place...and are understandably worried by LL's new policy which has indeed resulted in many more teens, griefers, and unaccountable alts and a sharp rise in scams and abuse. But that is no excuse for treating anyone who has done nothing yet that way. The people you speak of are the ones acting like griefer teens now. How is their behaviour any better? Attacking a random newbie who is standing around reading a notecard that way is no better than what the true griefers do to us at our homes, events and businesses.

Sadly, such times and the frustration they cause bring out the worst in many people. I am most sorry for that and that you have had to deal with it. You joined SL at the worst possible time to be a newbie with the level of anti-griefer, anti-teen, anti-Grim Babies hysteria rising to an all time high.

But, I wish to welcome you to Second Life and encourage you to seek out those of us who are not so consumed by witch hunting and anger that we sink to acting like what we say we oppose. Trust me...we are the majority of existing residents, not the sort mention.

-Zoe

Where cna I buy guns? I jst wanna know for my friend, yea thats the ticket, for my friend

Sorry, can't help you there, Super.

I'm afraid my knowledge of scripting is pretty rudimentary -- I've built a couple of vehicles which didn't work, and I completely suck at particle effects

But I do lurk in the Scripting Tips forum, and there are some folks in there who are usually very helpful. I don't know that they'll reveal their industrial secrets, but I think they'll be able to guide you a little on the basic principles.

When I started out, I gathered bundles of free scripts from several locations. I also picked up some freebie vehicles and aircraft that can be disassembled and examined. I'd suggest the best starting point for you may be to (a) find some free scripts (landmarks available if you IM me) (b) find some freebie vehicles and take them apart to see how they work, then play with the scripting and add your own creativity. Sometimes the best creations in SL are derivative.

Good luck, Lost

head over to Abbots airfield, I think Cubey has some free aircraft scripts you can use to start off with.

me too.
World Of Warcraft is overal a killing game, they say it would be possible to have different way to play the game, it was interesting, but very confined.

WoW is overal based upon destruction.
and for the same money prize, i can have my own house here .

if someone knows WoW players, i have still 300 gold on Royaume des Ombres .

Lost,
It sucks you had such a poor first impression of the residents here. Might if I ask what your avatar looks like? While I would never condone the behavior of those jerks, if your avatar looks like a bling-bling gansta or something they may simply have been stereotyping you based on your appearance.

I hate to think that the average Second Lifer has become so jaded. When I first joined over a year and a half ago, 98% of everyone I met was helpful and friendly.

and that the obnoxious attitudes you experienced aren't just reserved for brand new folks.

I am over my 30 days, I have multiple jobs, & my photo's appear elsewhere here in the forums, modelling a new line of jewelry, so my face is not totally unknown. Just last night i accidently bumped into someone and pushed back them just a little as i walked foward. I had just tp'd into the region and they hadn't rezed to me yet so i didn't see them. As soon as they rezed in, i stopped walking and appologized immediately for the error. The individual was exactly as you described. Very arrogant and threatening.

Just like in RL you'll find arrogant a**holes here in SL. Just be polite, ignore them and move on. They are not worth fretting about.

Nothing good has ever come out of an AV dressed up like Darth Vader.

Sorry your initial experience has been met with hostility. There is a lot of paranoia going on these days when it concerns new accounts because of the free registration without any verification. I think a lot of people just assume that the majority of new accounts created since the registration process was put into place are teens, griefers or alt accounts. Hopefully, the hysteria will die down soon and we can all get back to business as usual.

Lupus. thanks for the suggestion I will try and find that. I'm more interested in learning about unique ways to bend prims now, I think I've got the basics already. So probably would build something before adding the scripts in.

lou, I generally play solo flight games, Secondlife brings something like WoW + flightsimulator to me, so this is something I really like. Sadly, I've lost all interest with WoW, I didn't feel it was fun to go hours after hours to hack away at some monster.

Harris, I'm including a screenshot of how I look. I got a snazzy tux t-shirt now. As you can see, I'm pretty round. hah! I thought my avtar was pretty neutral and friendly looking? Maybe a bit like Jay-leno?

When I first left the help island, i was sent to a place called korea 2. It's mostly empty, so I went to some place on find and just flew around. But somehow it sent me back to korea 2 when I log in. I don't understand this place, is this for SL Koreans or themed like this?

My home position was automatically set there, and I see no one there usually...

What Jennyfur said. Plus, given the amount of griefing going on at the moment due to this new open registration system, a new account just "showing up" to the location of a group of green dots is likely to set off alarms. Right now, everyone expects any newbie who just drops in to be a griefer, which is unfair of us and really no excuse to condemn before any action has taken place. We are quickly turning into militia camps, armed to teeth and waiting for the unseen enemy to appear at our front gates at any second - this is not the SL that we all know and love.

This is what unverified registration has done to us.

Lost, you can IM me ingame as well, I have only been is SL 2 months and didn't experience what you have been through which is unfortunate for you. I was welcomed into SL with open arms and have experienced almost none of what you have. The new registration process has increased new accounts being added 3 times what it was just the week before and many of those new accounts were added just to cause grief which is why established residents have reacted as they have. Welcome to SL and the forums.

BTW I am a retired Areospace Engineer from China Lake.

Lost, if you haven't done so already, do a "Find" on the "Ivory Tower of Primitives" -- it is a wonderful, multi-story interactive tutorial on prim-torture I have used the original tower many times (going back for refreshers) and feel it's such an important place in SL that I made a point of landmarking the new location when it opened. This is something you won't regret spending your time doing.


I'm not sure, but most sims just get random names. You can reset your "home" location to anywhere you want by using the "World" -> "Set Home to Here" menu options at the top of your screen.

On the other hand, if nobody's usually in Korea 2, that might be a pretty lagfree place to start from

As I feared Lost, you do have what one might call "the look of a griefer". Sadly, it's due to your short, fat and squat shape. Griefers often max out their appearance sliders in an effort to make themselves as unappealing looking as possible, often appearing as fat, ogres. While your shape isn't nearly that bad, it's probably close enough to set some people in defense mode.

except star wars pr0n.

Why is this, exactly? Do people think it bothers others to see weird avatars? I could care less. My av has no face, for god's sake.