Griefer Autobanning Rings.

No no hehe misunderstood. It may not even be an innocent person. Mabye i should of worded it diff then a little griefer. We all have the thought capacity at some point to wish bad things on others. Bad wording on my part a few times there. The person you wish to tick off may not be innocent eithre necessarily. They may of done something to you. But retaliation or thoughts of it in some aspects may be considered griefing by some people. Like if someone shot you and you kept shooting back kind of thing.

Mabye im just bad at explaining what i mean *sigh*. I didnt mean it in the context i said. Greifers have the same mentality as everyone else its more or less that they act on urges to do things that one would consider griefing. And we have all wished harm on someone else at one point no sense in trying to deny that. It doesnt make you a bad person it makes you human.

i never said wishing to harm an innocent person however. Mabye out of jealousy or something when you were a teen. Wanted that so and so (insert whatever you wish there) to drop dead or whatever. Its a strong will that you dont act out the fantasies of hurting someone. I know i dont and most people dont.

But we do have the thought capacity to think the same way was what i was getting at. We all have the ability to think like a griefer but we dont simply because of the will not to. No one is innocent of wishing harm at some point or another onto someone else. We've all dont it but the majority as i stated do not act on it. I know I've wished some people in SL would drop dead (not going to name names at all because that kind of stuff gets someone in trouble) At times be it for land because of outrageous prices or what not. Thats usually what i get weird about. But i dont go out and grief the land sellers for it.

I resist that urge as do most other people. I dont know if griefers think its funny or what. Who really knows =/. They hurt themselves as well as those they are attacking. Getting a griefer tag in SL just doesnt help you really. As stated i wish LL would enforce harsher punishments for griefers. Especially those that attack grid wide.

Lost get off this crap already seriously. Enough with the images and stuff it's childish beyond belief. At least these people are constructive with their replies rather then acting assanine about it. I'll continue speaking even if it comes off the wrong way because i do like to express my opinion and alot of people do express their opinions thats what forums are for. If you have some actual constructive way of saying something so be it but if your going to be childish about it why really bother? Sometimes i express my opinion badly the same could be said for a number of people.

I dont expect everyone to agree with me if they do cool, if they dont cool. It doesnt really matter.

How about adding to the discussion for once instead of trolling and acting like a child? If you have an opinion on the matter at hand honestly post it but stop this stuff it just earns you the status of a troll. And no one bothers listening to trolls after awhile.

*sadface*

EDIT: This is Lost's human retainer. Lina you are taking this forum way-too-seriously. Now back to your irregularly scheduled program of forum closure.

EDIT2: The thing with you Lina, is that it's either your way or you'd villify whoever speaks against you. See your first reply to me. I was simply pointing something you mentioned. This is the Bush way. Either your with us....

EDIT3: Some people just need to chill out seriously, take a breath of fresh air, and maybe have a drink or two? There is life beyond the computer! And there is a person behind every computer a real person don't forget this!

EDIT4: from wikipedia In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion, including the personal attack of calling others trolls. Often, trolls assume multiple aliases, or sock puppets.". Sad tactic! still

Well i dont take trolling lightly because its just there to entice people to get pissed off. I dont post unless i have a thought on the matter at hand. And most people usually dont post unless they have a thought about it. They dont go out of their way to try to make people look bad by cutting out parts of several posts and they dont consistantly post pictures that have nothing to do with anything. So mabye i do take it serious but It's because its not a goofy clown esc thread.

News Flash: Lina and Lost have successfully hijacked a thread for their childish little dispute. More news to follow as we watch to see if this will be an isolated incident or if more hijackings are coming.

You've griefed her for several pages and totally derailed a thread that is unrelated to you're squabble then get sad faced pretending your a victim? Correction: everyone is a victim of you two. Consider both of you reported for turning this thread into your personal dispute.

This is incorrect, I was trying to have a discussion, she kept calling me a troll, and being very aggressive. The discussion I was trying to have was why she was supporting a griefer here, as she did age-players elsewhere. Please re-read everything written.

Im not the one being childish here he was the one who attempted stuff. I just wish he'd actually bring something to the conversation you know. I bring up stuff cuz the guy is basically trolling threads this is two now where he acted like this. Someone reported him in the last thread on my behalf because of his harsh attitude. I tried to get back on track but Lost here is the one that continually attempts to pull it off track and he'll continue this. Im not attempting to pull this off track every chance i get. And Lost if he does go back and reread its trolling its not a discussion. You started calling me sick and saying i protect pedophiles which had nothing to do with protecting age players either like your brought up in the other thread. You never just try a discussion.

I try to keep the thread on course jon but i simply wont sit around and be badgered you wouldnt either and after the last thread where he basically was calling me a pedophiles for simply saying age players have the right to rp in SL and the harshness of which he got reported for i really dont take it as nothing. Im sorry for posting it but he is the one coming here and acting in this manner to pull things off course. If you notice i didnt bring anything trying to pull it off till he started to post stuff that had 0 relevance to the thread, Aside from trying to make me look bad and or calling me sick he hasnt contributed at all to the thread.

A griefer gone soft? Have you ever looked up the term griefer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer

Mighty interesting.

Well i hope i cleared some things up about my opinion. I dont support griefers i really wish they'd just go away. Seriously why cant everyone get along in all honesty. As open minded as most of SL is to alot of things it always shocks me that people can actually be hateful towards certain groups. I just dont get it at all i have an open mind and i like to see people play this how they want to. Thats why i find griefers appaling especially those that attack certain groups. Its like saying you shouldnt play this way. My honest opinion is that they should be punished more then they are. I just wish they would leave things alone .

Yeah i have seen that before. Training isnt always a griefing tactic. Some people are just afraid of dying and that leads to problems. Like back when i played FFXI a great deal of people just ran if they knew the couldnt beat something if they were close enough to the map exit. However sometimes this caused problems if people w ere hanging out at the map exit. When i got to a higher level i actually visited these area's as a paladin in area's i knew i could kill the stuff without dying. I killed the stuff that went to the map exit (hero complex anyone? lol) But it usually wasnt a griefer tactic it was just a party trying to survive. There are cases Where alot of this is annoying. It varies by which game.

Player killing may not be considered griefing by the game company themselves but it is an annoying practice none the less. For instance Pk'ing in Lineage 2 when i had Gm'ed for that game was just considered a part of the game and we told that to people reporting it. However..... if the player continually just targeted you then it was actually considered harassment and thusly became griefing. Sadly i dont gather why people do it. But i do know people that used to be considered griefiers in other games that ended up with a good reputation after awhile.

It can happen if they want it to but they have to want it to is the thing. In SL the stigma of being a known griefer stays with you for a long time till people either just forget about your or whatever. Thats even more of a reason to just not do it really. Some griefers learn their lesson other dont. For the ones that dont *sigh* why? I know I've pk'ed before in other games when someone ticked me off. I never went and chased them just killed them for acting in a certain manner towards me. But i dont do that kind of stuff anymore. As far as im aware i have never been reported in SL for any activity. As if i have a weapon i use it in area's designated for that. Usually the weapons testing sim or in my house on my partner who'm i ask first.

I do go to samurai island from time to time which is a non combat area designed for pvp with swords which is really kinda cool i must say ^^. The people i ran into there were most respectful and didnt attack you unwarranted. I befriended someone there while i was there and they tauught me some stuff i didnt know the sword i had could do. As i stated i wish griefers would just go away.

*closes thread*

This thread has outlived it's usefulness, it is way off topic.