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Ghoti Nyak
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Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
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06-18-2006 07:26
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Some of the places that look best to me in SL are the places that look like big tall mountain ranges. The 4 meter adjustment range prevents these neat looking places from being made No it does not. It prevents them from being added after the fact. Its difficult to build a realistic mountain range in small spaces. At least half a sim is required for a single semi-tall mountain alone. Otherwise you get too steep a grade at the bases that looks unrealistic. Go take a look in Mimas and the surrounding sims. THAT is a mountain range, and no way could that have fit in a single sim. Private islands can have nice mountains, well, mountain-like hills really, but most I've seen are single mountains or are around the edges of the sim. The 'bulk sims' experiment could have had good mountain ranges as well. Instead we got pancake islands. -Ghoti
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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06-18-2006 11:04
Well, I just finished a landscaping job for a client who is on one of the newer sims with the +/- 4M restriction, and it was incredibly annoying to try to work around those limitations!
She remains stuck with a "sand dune" that encroaches on her back patio, a mound 2 M tall and 10 M diameter, right on the corner of her property, edged on 2 sides by water. The bump makes no sense where it is, on a parcel that otherwise is fairly flat. I planted several decorative shrubs on it, to make it presentable. That same lot has a 'channel' running across one edge of an original parcel line - a spot that has no bearing on her current parcel holdings... But I can't raise that area enough to get it out of the water... So she has a slough under her front patio, open on one side, and capped on the other end with prim soil and plants. *sigh*
If the region was decently landscaped to begin with, then tight terraform limits might be OK. But this sim was nothing but low sand bars to start with!
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,786
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06-18-2006 12:59
i would be for this as i would personally need it to make some nice amenagements in livigno, but i kno what peoples are capable of "because they can" so no, i will give up my own needs in hope it never happend
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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06-19-2006 08:36
And incidentally, I would definitely support the idea of the terraform limit range being tied to how much land you own in a sim. Someone who only has a 512 M2 parcel only needs to fit the land to the foundation of their home, and maybe sculpt something simple like a small pond. Being able to change the level of such a small parcel radically makes no sense, unless that land owner is working in concert with many other nearby land owners to do a coordinated change to the land. (And in that case, they should form a group and do it that way!)
Someone who owns half a sim, on the other hand, should be free to create a spectactlar landscape, because they have enough room to make it possible to take advantage of a wide terraform range, without making it look horrible!
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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06-19-2006 08:54
From: Ceera Murakami ..Someone who owns half a sim, on the other hand, should be free to create a spectactlar landscape, because they have enough room to make it possible to take advantage of a wide terraform range, without making it look horrible! Quick someone please post that picture of the time when a greifer lowered three quarters of a sim by 100 metres!  I think people are forgetting just what intensely ugly crappola is possible with tools like that. 50 metre high "walls" at property boundaries, giant holes and cracks and big square mountains. It was ugly ugly ugly! The sim I am thinking of in regards the picture wasn't even really a greifer actually, just a resident that owned 3/4 of a sim with other owners having "island" parcels surrounded by her. The other residents woke up one morning to find their parcels on top of 100 metre high mesas poking up out of a new sea that now filed the sim. All perfectly legal with those tools.
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