New Place Description Option: Religious

Furthermore.... I get just slightly disgusted when 'religion' is involved.

Spirituality however is something I truely believe in.....

If there was anything religious in SL, I wouldn't visit, and honestly wouldnt even want it on my screen (in events) however, a monistary or temple on the spirituality side, I would definitely check out, and would not care if I saw postings in the events.

even furthermore.....

arts and culture is listed together (even though i think they are different).... but I feel religion and spiritualty are waaaaaay different.... sometimes even opposites.

Why can the category just be "Lifestyles"

i think that Religious/Spritual would be a perfect solution if that is what the community wants.

"Lifestyles" would not fit at all that that tends to refer to secular things.

Saturday night at Temple, Sunday Morning at Church, a Wiccan gathering, a Druid service, those are Religious/Spritual things, not "Lifestyles".

(BTW, no offence meant to anybody if I got the terms wrong)

"I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier."

1L$ to the first person who can say where that quote came from without googling.

While I personally tend to prefer to spend my time in places where I'm less likely to be zapped with a lightening bolt for even having the gall to enter (jk), I can certainly see why a lot of people would really like to be able to more accurately advertise (for lack of a better word) the place they've created and love, and draw in those who share their interest.

Honestly, anyone who is offended by the word religion or the existance of a category for it is just being ridiculous. People are offended too easily anyway, Americans most of all. (I'm an American, I can say that heh). A radio DJ I listen to occasionally called it "The wussification of America".
[see definition "wussy" - whiny pansy ass]

Perhaps the OP, since they brought it up, might do a little search, talk to a few people who run facilities similar to theirs and see what they think. Maybe after a few people talk it over and decide on the word they want to use, next step could be a vote in the feature voting system.

I think it's a good idea, I'd vote for it.

nah, no offense at all...

and reading your post, I agree with you. Lifestyles is not a good fit...

and actually, I am cool with religious/spiritual..... but not religion/spirituality.

It's not that it offends me any.... I think anything leaning towards religion is asking for trouble in this current state of SL; with chaos, anarchy, and a self-appointed human higher power known as the Lindens (and some of em definitely have a 'god-complex').

...... I see religious places in SL being griefed more by the ignorant and opposing.

Interesting concepts, Angelique! I'd never thought of it that way.

coco

But why is it so wrong and so offensive to you that others are making a choice that you happen to disagree with, and are in no way forced to participate in. I happen to find the proliferation of "sex" all over SL offensive, yet I just avoid it as best as I can because I know others do want it here. The same should be the same for religion, and anything else that someone somewhere might happen to be offended by.

Remember that the US constitution guarantees "freedom OF religion", ie the choice to follow whichever or none - not freedom FROM religion.

Lewis

Hey, Lewis, i thought you didn't care about the US constitution.

And, isn't watching Star Trek religion anyways?

the picard has come to save us! hail the picard!

I don't particularly as it's irrelevant, but due to the (thankfully dwindling) US majority it's important to use it to get the point across.

Star Trek could be a religion I guess to some. Sadly I haven't found a uniform in my size yet.

Lewis

Funnily enough I watched that episode on DVD about a week back.

Lewis

I'm not sure if adding a 'religion' category is a good idea or not - I think that would depend how many actual religious sites there are in SL.

I do think, however, we need the ability to filter *out* categories. For example, I might like to use the find places tool, but *exclude* some categories, like "religious", "adult", or maybe "Shopping". That might require a series of checkboxes though... not sure if it violates the KISS principle.

I like "Religious/Spiritual" as a category. It would be nice if a place could have more than one category, as well, but that would have to wait for a later enhancement.

I would also like to propose "Health" (indicating sites promoting physical and/or mental health) as a category. There are quite a few large projects that qualify.

Being able to exclude place categories from search would be quite helpful, in my mind.

neko

It's not that religion offends me... it's more that religion brings up a preconceived notion into my head... personally, to me religion is kinda stupid.... but that's just me....
after thinking about it all, I really don't care if religion becomes a category..... but I am OUT of SL when the Catholic church buys a few sims and starts spamming the events with "Slingo is the Devil discussions" and things of that nature. Im fine with religion being present in SL, as long as it's about common beliefs on well-being and a way of life, rather than groups trying to preech about what other people are doing wrong.

Why should it be perfectly OK for someone like American Apparel to come into SL, but not the Catholic Church? You can't pick and choose - discriminate - it's all or nothing, and given LL's policy of openness and diversity to promote things that we ourselves might find offensive, then I look forward to being able to visit Vatican City sim.

As long as something is clearly identified, then you have the choice whether to go there or not. You do not have the right to stop others enjoying something simply because you choose to find it offensive, because nobody forces you to visit there.

"A Christian place of worship" is far less than misleading than a "yard sale" which is really just an extension of someone's store, or a "popular club or mall" that only has traffic because it has camping chairs and pays people to visit.

Lewis

If a religion category does appear, I'll bet someone builds a temple to Ishtar, complete with temple prostitution.

This idea is starting to sound better now.

I agree with this completely, and I have experienced people harassing me for not being a member of their brand of religion. There are a lot of spiritual groups who do not believe on pushing themselves on others though. It's like any other choice about life - someone wants to act on their beliefs in a way that is not constantly bashing mine or trying to force me to participate? It's cool.

You might actually find a "spiritual" category useful in the same way I would find a "Gorean" category useful - as a way to quickly verify that you do NOT want to visit a place. I have serious issues with slavery, even in a role play situation, even though it has to be 100% voluntary here. I would refuse to play along because of my beliefs, therefore I don't belong visiting a sim where that is the whole point, because I don't need to push my beliefs on them.

Are you so sure it doesn't already exist ISL? Sex does seem to be one of the driving forces. They'd probably get better business and higher profits categorizing it directly under "Adult" though.

Wait.... so the Xcite store really isn't a synogogue? I've been dooped

chris rock in dogma?

Bingo! Your 1L$ is on it's way.