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New way to get $L support for events

Moridin Unsung
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04-19-2006 22:05
Start a University......

Claim to pay the teachers the $500L that ALL Instructors get for LL sponsered classes.
Tell them that it would take WEEKS for then to get it themselves, because they are just too dumb to know any better.

Promise class help and class outlines
Have fun parties where $L's are given away
Make everyone feel special............maybe with a 'card' or trophy
Give jewelry away as an Instructors only prize
Get all the content the Instructors have to offer...turn it into a class

Whine about the $L's it cost to run all the land you decided to buy and appeal to thier 'guilt' factor.....include a spread sheet

Take $L50 from each and every Instructor's LL pay, for each and every class

Voila....you have $L in the bank

This will work.....I promise :)
Min Unsung
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04-19-2006 23:42
hmmm I must be in the wrong line of work
Ardentua Nabob
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04-20-2006 03:40
fantastic, ethical scamming, well done sir, you really are in the wrong line of work - may i suggest a trip to Nigeria and some help with the 419's ;)
Vivianne Draper
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04-20-2006 05:37
i had heard there was some trouble in the teazers universe. this must be the fallout
Gabe Lippmann
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04-20-2006 05:52
I want a trophy. :mad:
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04-20-2006 05:56
Please grab a book on Eco 101.
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Rini Rampal
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04-20-2006 06:49
From: Vivianne Draper
i had heard there was some trouble in the teazers universe. this must be the fallout


Don't worry too much. ;-) TeaZers is still runnin' along just fine, with the same great staff of Instructors we've always had. hehe. I don't know who or whose alt the OP is, but... *shrug* He's entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to disagree 100%. :-)
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Eata Kitty
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04-20-2006 07:06
They should make it like UO so you can loot other resident's corpses.
FlipperPA Peregrine
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04-20-2006 07:24
"Help, help, Mr. Dick," said the Nigerian prince.

"All my relatives have died and I must remove money from my homeland.
Please help me, Mr. Dick.
I need your assistance and full cooperation. You can have 20% of $12 million.
I just innocently and truly need your banking information, Mr. Dick."

Dick said, "Would e-mail be OK?"

Two days later, the Nigerian prince said,
"Look, look, you lousy loser.
You have no savings account.
You have $4 to your name.
You were fired for peeing in the coffee pot at work.
You have nothing for me to steal. This scam is over!!"


Dick said "Oh, no! That sucks!
That’s NO fun! No fun with Dick and Jane."
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Vivianne Draper
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04-20-2006 12:59
Oh I'm not worried. I just like watching other people's drama sometimes. Long as it has no chance of touching me it can be quite entertaining -- similar to a soap.

The OP is right though. Any Linden qualified instructor can use any of the new Welcome Areas to hold a class and get the 500 from LL themselves. I don't know why they'd take less to teach a class for TeaZers. But its cool that you've managed to convince them to do so.


From: Rini Rampal
Don't worry too much. ;-) TeaZers is still runnin' along just fine, with the same great staff of Instructors we've always had. hehe. I don't know who or whose alt the OP is, but... *shrug* He's entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to disagree 100%. :-)
Sammael Unsung
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04-21-2006 10:27
From: Vivianne Draper

The OP is right though. Any Linden qualified instructor can use any of the new Welcome Areas to hold a class and get the 500 from LL themselves. I don't know why they'd take less to teach a class for TeaZers. But its cool that you've managed to convince them to do so.


Great point!
Carl Metropolitan
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04-21-2006 14:24
From: Vivianne Draper
The OP is right though. Any Linden qualified instructor can use any of the new Welcome Areas to hold a class and get the 500 from LL themselves. I don't know why they'd take less to teach a class for TeaZers. But its cool that you've managed to convince them to do so.


Going to bat for the "competion" here. TeaZers does offer their instructors benifits beyond the 500L$ that LL pays. TeaZers:
  1. Posts classes on the Events list and provides additional publicity,
  2. Files the necessary paperwork with LL for an instructor payment,
  3. Pays the instructor immediately and waits for the LL payment,
  4. Provides a space for the class to be held,
  5. Offers instructor level courses for their instructors,
  6. Provides course materials to the instructors for many of their courses, and
  7. Organizes and schedules their classes.
For this, it sounds like they ask the RL equivalent of 15 cents.

I do many--not all--of these things for New Citizens Incorporated. It may look easy, but when you have lots of classes going, it piles up into a lot of work.
Nyx Divine
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04-21-2006 22:14
This thread makes me laugh insanely....oh the things we wish we had known LMAO

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04-23-2006 05:40
i like the taste of caterpillers
Usagi Musashi
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04-23-2006 05:45
Gesh Ego Hell is going to break loose.

Its not about helping others its about who can being the biggest what is the jewish term again? BF says it all the time........
Nyx Divine
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04-23-2006 18:41
From: Usagi Musashi
Gesh Ego Hell is going to break loose.

Its not about helping others its about who can being the biggest .



yup :)
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Allana Dion
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04-23-2006 18:54
From: Carl Metropolitan
Going to bat for the "competion" here. TeaZers does offer their instructors benifits beyond the 500L$ that LL pays. TeaZers:
  1. Posts classes on the Events list and provides additional publicity,
  2. Files the necessary paperwork with LL for an instructor payment,
  3. Pays the instructor immediately and waits for the LL payment,
  4. Provides a space for the class to be held,
  5. Offers instructor level courses for their instructors,
  6. Provides course materials to the instructors for many of their courses, and
  7. Organizes and schedules their classes.
For this, it sounds like they ask the RL equivalent of 15 cents.

I do many--not all--of these things for New Citizens Incorporated. It may look easy, but when you have lots of classes going, it piles up into a lot of work.


Hmm... not that i see anything wrong with what Teazers is doing, more power to 'em for seeing a market and jumping into it... BUT...


From: someone
Posts classes on the Events list and provides additional publicity,


Anyone can do that

From: someone
Files the necessary paperwork with LL for an instructor payment,


Anyone can do that too and while it might be a lot of work for someone managing a lot of teachers, its a few moments of work for one person managing only their own classes.

From: someone
Pays the instructor immediately and waits for the LL payment,


Useful if you're not willing to wait a couple of days to get paid.

From: someone
Provides a space for the class to be held,


So does LL and any friend you have who might like the traffic on their land.

From: someone
Offers instructor level courses for their instructors,


This might be useful, I haven't seen one so won't judge.... I can see the potential value.

From: someone
Provides course materials to the instructors for many of their courses, and,


Well if you're knowledgeable about what you're teaching you should be able to do this in a few moments from your own inventory.

From: someone
Organizes and schedules their classes,


Personally I prefer setting my own schedule rather than having to stick to someone elses. I do that enough in RL.
Usagi Musashi
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04-23-2006 19:17
From: Nyx Divine
yup :)



If a few of these so called people barking that they are so great because the run newbie style classes. Are only beating their own egos, this is the problem in the newbie style groups and clubs these days. Egos or these people are the only ones getting helped. Not the newbies themselves.......Now a days its about I better then you when running classes for newbies. frankly who cares? Your not help as much as you lead to believe.....If so why are newbies even more unknowing then say ayear ago.......
Vivianne Draper
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04-23-2006 20:39
Lana I'm glad you said all that cause I was going to but then I decided to read the entire thread.

As to their instructor level classes... well they require you to take a "how to teach a class' course before you can teach for them. Its pretty basic stuff -- you know -- have a lesson plan, be prepared, show up early and make sure the space is ready -- kind of common sense stuff.

I'm not saying TeaZers doesn't provide a good service. I'm just saying the OP has a point. I kind of wonder if everyone teaching for Teazers knows that they don't need TeaZers to teach.
Allana Dion
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04-23-2006 23:49
From: Vivianne Draper
Lana I'm glad you said all that cause I was going to but then I decided to read the entire thread.

As to their instructor level classes... well they require you to take a "how to teach a class' course before you can teach for them. Its pretty basic stuff -- you know -- have a lesson plan, be prepared, show up early and make sure the space is ready -- kind of common sense stuff.

I'm not saying TeaZers doesn't provide a good service. I'm just saying the OP has a point. I kind of wonder if everyone teaching for Teazers knows that they don't need TeaZers to teach.



I wondered that for a minute too. But then if they don't know how it works, I'd have to wonder at their ability to teach.
Please no offense to anyone who teaches at Teazers, it just gives me a moment's pause is all. If someone reading this is a Teazer's teacher, maybe you could clue us in as to why?
Treacly Brodsky
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04-24-2006 02:54
They (Teazerz) sent me some crap and I tossed it...Not that I think it's a bad idea but i'll personally work thru Linden programs or privately. :)
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Kelly Nordberg
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04-24-2006 07:38
Another way to look at it is that Teazer offers opportunities/ services to people who didn't know the education program.

Like Carl had already mentioned, they take care of the misc paperwork/ logistics while the teacher would only need to show up to the class. It's like having graduate students/ staff at an university doing the grunt work for the professors, you still need to pay them right?

With the coming removal of Dwell, a major part of their income and probably the only reason why the university could offer free services to the teachers in the first place, something need to be done.

I'm not sure what else other than the rental at the mall they have for income.

In the end, it's up to the teachers to decide for themselves if the services TU offers worth the cost. Would they do better by themselves? Or would the extra time spent and the lost of name recognition be woth it?
Dragon Stryker
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04-24-2006 12:40
From: Vivianne Draper
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I kind of wonder if everyone teaching for Teazers knows that they don't need TeaZers to teach.


They do know that. Those that teach with us choose to do so. We don't just teach residents, we also train instructors. They're free to move on and teach on their own afterwards, or even go to another school like NCI or ^ASL^. Those that stay obviously find what we have to offer worth it.
Siggy Romulus
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04-24-2006 12:48
Yiddish should be adopted as the international language - it has such cool terms like Chuzpah..

LOL

I've snuck into many Teazers classes just to see how 'instructional events' are hosted nowadays in a land full of 'sexiredthongo' events.

I've found them to be very informative - helpful - patient - the instructors are genuinely interested in helping and teaching folks and not about the $$$.

It's good to see that still around in this SL age. For the instructors there it seems all about doing what they say they are, and not about the benjamins nor the 'Look at me I help the noobs!'

I think they are providing a good service, probably at a loss - its quite admirable. And I don't see hardly any 'Look us us! See what we're doing!' posts around the place either.
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Molten Magpie
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04-24-2006 15:32
50 times 40 times 30 is 60000 L a month, about what it takes to pay for ONE sim(Teazers has 3 with easily 40-70 percent of each of them dedicated to university facilities), without the up front payment, nominal but AWESOME staff, support, scripting, full perm materials, one monthly party, instructor training into a great and noble profession, a great constantly attended and updated environmental learning experience, not to mention the durn near full time labors of a core staff, FOR FREE. 50 L per class is a deal, and one Teazers is not making a profit on, let us be REAL. Of over 100 instructors at Teazers, approximately 4 left over the 50 L. To me that says that 96 percent of them feel that Teazers provides a service to them that is worth 50 L and, I think, would argue this point to the author of this simpleminded post.

Teazers is run for the love of education and by a camaraderie of people who want SL to be about creation, not consumption, of content. The fact that we have garnered some resentment from *cough* some parties, is natural in any venture of this size. We have, as far as I know, positive relationships with all the other schools in SL. If this or any person would like to see a breakdown of the funding of Teazers and it's expenses and revenues, one is available upon request.

Yours Sincerely, Molten Magpie
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