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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-26-2006 06:06
Will the Forum Mods be given access to Help Island?
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Chris Wilde
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01-26-2006 06:09
Are forum moderators considered "live helpers"? I thought they were to "police" the forums.
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01-26-2006 06:35
The question makes no sense to me. Why would they, unless they're part of one of the in-world help groups? That's like asking why all Live Helpers and Mentors don't get to have moderator rights in the forums, to show the opposite.

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01-26-2006 07:14
Yeah! Why ain't I a mod?

Oh right.... I like to subtletroll molehills into mountains.
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01-26-2006 07:39
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
The question makes no sense to me. Why would they, unless they're part of one of the in-world help groups? That's like asking why all Live Helpers and Mentors don't get to have moderator rights in the forums, to show the opposite.

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Because the question provokes Drama, of course, Flip.
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01-26-2006 07:42
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Will the Forum Mods be given access to Help Island?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Was that really a serious question?


Forum mods only get to play in forums. Why on earth would you get to go to Help Island?
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01-26-2006 08:01
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Because the question provokes Drama, of course, Flip.


Ah, yes, silly me. Oh well, time to duck out of this thread. :-)
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-26-2006 08:56
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
The question makes no sense to me. Why would they, unless they're part of one of the in-world help groups? That's like asking why all Live Helpers and Mentors don't get to have moderator rights in the forums, to show the opposite.

Regards,

-Flip
The question makes perfectly good sense. It is clearly written and doesn't use big words. Maybe you should try sounding it out, or running dictionary.com in an additional browser tab. :p

The volunteer groups of mentors, greeters, live help, and instructors were all created before Help Island's existence. Thus there is no particular reason why those groups should have been given access to Help Island. A distinct set of people could have been chosen for the role, but they weren't.

The volunteer groups in existence at the time of Help Island's creation were given acccess to Help Island. The user mods are volunteers, one might thus assume they would get access to Help Island like the other volunteers do. If the role of user mod had existed at the time of Help Island's creation I suspect the user mods would have had H.I. access granted without any real thought.

I don't much care what the answer is, it's just a perfectly understandable question that occured to me.
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Creami Cannoli
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01-26-2006 08:59
What exactly is your reasoning that a FORUM mod would get access to Help Island?

It really makes no sense. Forums are separate from in-world. So you shouldn't be getting "special" access to Help Island since what you do has no bearing there.

Be happy if you are a forum mod and wield your power wisely *snicker*
SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-26-2006 09:03
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Because the question provokes Drama, of course, Flip.
To me, the question provokes a yes or no answer.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-26-2006 09:12
From: Creami Cannoli
What exactly is your reasoning that a FORUM mod would get access to Help Island?

It really makes no sense. Forums are separate from in-world. So you shouldn't be getting "special" access to Help Island since what you do has no bearing there.

Be happy if you are a forum mod and wield your power wisely *snicker*
I am not a forum mod, and unless they change the requirement for an absolutely perfect record I never will be.

I did not make a case in the original post for or against a policy, I asked a simple, flat, yes or no question.


Forums and in-world are all part of "the Service" referred to in the TOS.
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Desmond Shang
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01-26-2006 09:57
I think the forum mods need snappy, patent-leather wearing forum avatars.


Anyone up to make some?
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01-26-2006 11:27
To answer Suezanne's question, nope not me. I have no access, now and doubtfully in the up-coming days. I'm just answering for myself though. Other mods might have a different situation if say, they were already playing a part in the Help Island.
Jeska Linden
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01-26-2006 11:40
Forum ResMods are not, in fact, given "automatic" access to Help Island, unless they are also members of the appropriate volunteer group.
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01-26-2006 12:10
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
To me, the question provokes a yes or no answer.


Well, to me the clear answer would be: no.

It also appears that to me that if you were truly posting for a yes or no answer, Hotline to Linden would have made a lot more sense than General, but I'm no ResMod. ;)

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Siggy Romulus
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01-26-2006 12:28
According the the forum descriptions:

"Discuss your ideas and observations about SL"

This clearly belongs in Off Topic! or maybe New Products... I'm not sure.
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01-26-2006 12:29
I vote for archives.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-26-2006 12:33
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Well, to me the clear answer would be: no.

It also appears that to me that if you were truly posting for a yes or no answer, Hotline to Linden would have made a lot more sense than General, but I'm no ResMod. ;)

Regards,

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There is no "Hotline to Lindens" forum, it's called "Second Life Answers" now.

The Resident Moderator, or anyone who knows the answer, could answer the yes or no question just as well as a Linden employee, but can't answer in the Second Life Answers forum, since they aren't Lindens. Placing the question in General thus makes more efficient use of paid staff time.

All sorts of questions that ask for cut and dry answers are asked in all the discussion forums all the timem, which is one of the purposes of the discussion forum.

As an example, someone asked a question in General in the last day or so on how to sell items. This question could have been directed to the Linden staff, or people could have tried to get the moderator to move it into Land and Economy, or people could have offered their opinions on the merits and drawbacks of selling items.

Instead they just tried to answer the question that was actually asked.
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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01-26-2006 12:56
Seems to me she was asking a simple question and we got an official answer. Although I am interested in knowing why they can't go to Help Island if they wanted, since they were chosen by LL to Help with the forums. If they are able bodied to deal with the forums, why does this not allow them temporary access to HI?
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Garnet Psaltery
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01-27-2006 04:02
I cannot think of a single reason why a Forum Moderator should go to Help Island unless they are going as a Live Helper, Greeter, Mentor, or as a Linden. Forum moderation is irrelevant there.
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Sarendale Parvenu
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01-27-2006 16:43
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I cannot think of a single reason why a Forum Moderator should go to Help Island unless they are going as a Live Helper, Greeter, Mentor, or as a Linden. Forum moderation is irrelevant there.

Yes, the very idea of people with clean rap sheets who have been selected for communication skills and and pleasant manner being exposed to new users - why, that's just crazy talk!

What's really important is that we be real cliqueish like junior high school students.
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01-27-2006 23:34
From: Sarendale Parvenu
Yes, the very idea of people with clean rap sheets who have been selected for communication skills and and pleasant manner being exposed to new users - why, that's just crazy talk!

What's really important is that we be real cliqueish like junior high school students.


This just makes me think of the big fight/dance scene from West Side Story with ResMods and Mentors.

A mod like that, he kill your brother...
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01-28-2006 04:14
From: Sarendale Parvenu
Yes, the very idea of people with clean rap sheets who have been selected for communication skills and and pleasant manner being exposed to new users - why, that's just crazy talk!

What's really important is that we be real cliqueish like junior high school students.


Don't be silly. My point is perfectly plain. The function of a Forum Moderator is irrelevant on Help Island.
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01-28-2006 04:28
From: Stephen Teazle
A mod like that, he kill your brother...


Hahahahah. :D
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01-28-2006 04:36
From: Sarendale Parvenu
Yes, the very idea of people with clean rap sheets who have been selected for communication skills and and pleasant manner being exposed to new users - why, that's just crazy talk!

What's really important is that we be real cliqueish like junior high school students.


Very silly argument - by that token why shouldn't the live help crew and the mentors have access to the forum mod tools?

Answer: They don't need them to do their job.

If we want the forum mods to go to help island - let them join the group who's job it is, and vice versa.
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