what has ll gotten right?

and that's the rub...

everyone remembers what ll does wrong.

but what has ll gotten right?
and why is there hardly any talk about it?
ll has gotten many things right. bug fixes, private islands, animations, etc...

can you name any? if you can, why don't you talk about them?

what are the marketing implications of that?

i'd like to point out that sl grew largely through viral means and good press.

They hired Torley

They got currency intergration right.
For the most part.
I'm just happy they allow it.
*grumbles @ ArenaNet

Ummm? Hmmmm?

P2P *even though it made telehub land worth much less
LindeX *cough GOM takeover cough*
Wells Fargo *until it was taken along with everyones work to another online world
Lowered Stippends better for the "economy" *if there was an economy.

Oooo ooooo ooooo I know!

Philips pants look as good as they did on day one.

Are you kidding me, animations are totally borked, WRT permissions and lack of collisions for instance. LL leaves everything half implemented, says it will fix everything later, never does.
What LL got right was SHINY! That rocks. And the new water. Oh wait, that one also makes your av wave around when you stand in front of it

1. hair shows up pretty much right away now instead of much much later
2. ripply water (yay)
3. live help and LL response much faster and are far more effective than ebay, paypal, or EAgames
4. hud attachments
5. ability to buy and sell $L more safely and quickly (sorry, tho, G.O.M)
6. user created content with minimal restrictions

I still really want
1. independent accounting capacity to make collaborative business possible
2. finger and toe attachments
3. more avies with less lag in a mainland sim (that has improved) & cultural trust fund
4. ban that allows ban of all alts as well
5. ability to, through right clicking/pie chart menu, interact with others in basic ways (shake hands, hug, mind-meld, karate-chop, yeah that'd be a start)

Gee. Perhaps, they got an editable, streaming 3d world to work? Perhaps they have designed it so that you can build just about anything you like, and have it function with scripts? Perhaps they are still listening more than most companies would, such as sony?

Naw. Couldn't be...

1. They made a world/game/thingy that thousands of us hang out and have fun in WAY later at night than we should.

SL is amazing and the fact that there is a place where so much is possible is pretty fantastic. Flying, wind through hair and fabric, being able to so easily manipulate textures and bring outside content inworld, all really wonderful.

It would be cool to be able to right click and then mindmeld, though, right? c'mon, you know you wanna. =-D

Pretty much my outlook on it.

Pick one: "Software done exactly as you'd like it" and "Software made by someone other than you".

Except for your alpha-textured attachments


Seconded !

They code all the land information directly into raw files AND ignore the lack of non-standard data when you upload a raw. That was right.

I was thinking of doing a thread like this the other night, Stoneself, when I set the permissions on my new dress form. Now I KNOW this is kinda silly, and I know everyone gripes about the permissions (that there aren't two different things for sell and give away), but I just had so much pleasure with that simple act.

I was thinking how elegant and easy it was, something TSO, for instance, didn't have (and would never have, of course, being totally different from SL), and how satisfying it was to set the price and set that permission.

Well, I'm not articulating myself very well here, but what I'm trying to say is at that moment, setting the permissions and enjoying it so much, I was thinking how right they got that detail. (Nevermind the give away/sell part; it's STILL good.)

Other things give me that same feeling. Some of the land dealies, where I do something with some land and it automatically gets set on the website. I do like that new thing where it tells you what this is going to do to your account and all that. (I don't like that there is no extra time built in for land trading, but oh well.)

Both those things have an immediate satisfaction surge factor built in.

Well, that's the best I can explain it. But it did start me thinking of all the good stuff.

coco

What did LL do right? They made a fucking video game. I can barely make a hott pocket.

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that was bound to happen... making tp no p2p was the mistakebut life is easier for the average userhmm... can't think of anything right in there... uh... that sl was even considered is good i suppose.well things could be worse if the stipends were bigger i suppose...

still there are animations, and people love them

but people look to the horizon... and they wonder if there can be more to sl - say something along the lines of a world wide web that is 3d... something ll implied, and people wonder when.

resting on one's laurels isn't all that impressive in this day and age.

the problem for ll on this one is that there are enough technical people in sl that that particular meme could take root. and some group of smart sl'rs could write "Software done exactly as you'd like it".

and even the critics don't really want that.

sl is deeply satisfying in many ways. but it is that very satisfaction that also leads to the dissatisfaction, people want more. people take older good features for granted. and those good features make the bad features stand out more. also, make the absence of some features much more obvious.

satisfaction is often a short-lived thing. there's a big jump in satisfaction from "i can't do x" to "oh wow! how cool! i can do x." but after doing x a few million times... it's old hat.

Because psuedointellectuals use them in threads to play devils advocate so they can sound clever?

could be. but i think it's important.

ll spread through viral communication and good press.

i've seen a drop in "gosh i love sl" post in the forums. and i've seen a drop in "ll! thanks for feature xyz" in the forums. and an increase in complaints. and i've seen some of the biggest boosters of sl go silent or move toward a more neutral position. this doesn't bode well.

is ll incompetent? or do they have an unstated agenda? it's not clear. the latter is preferable to the former - it means sl has a future. but the former? it's going to be very disappointing.

I think that LL has gotten a lot of things 'nearly right'

If they stayed the course on a lot of things I think they would have a lot more things right.

Many features in SL are half implimented - or they don't have a consistancy between what you can do through the UI to what you can in scripting.

Things that stirred great popular interest such as vehicles, and custom animations (the two biggest ones I can think of) drew cheers from the populous and had folks screaming about how great SL was.

Alas - they too are incompete in a lot of ways.

I think that rather than work through to make things consistant - they are dashing from 'shiney to shiney' (rippling water - camera controls) to make the crowds cheer.

But the crowds are waking up - even people like Cris Midnight, one of the most staunch die hard pro-linden people I know is even stopping and saying 'what the.....'

As much as I hate the analogy - folks are seeing that in a lot of regards the emporer has no clothes.


Personally I think that an evenhanded approach --- introduce new features, most certainly - but try to devote an equal amount of time to finishing off the older features as well.

This update, beleive it or not, is a lot closer to that than others have been..

New camera controls to captivate the movie making folks - producing new content that people will find compelling (and hopefully use with the streaming video functions)

Tempered with the ability to now finally check if a land parcel is build/script/damage etc. - something that was a big hole in some of the land-scripting functions.

There is some UI fixes in there (well.. attempted).. Tweaks to the viewer, and also a nice dose of bug fixes.

I think rounding out the path will have more people saying 'LL is getting it right'.

When a company I pay over US£300 a month for service gets things right I feel absolutely NO need to talk about it. It's what I'm PAYING FOR!
You know, like when you pick up the phone and there's dial tone? BIG DEAL - the phone you are PAYING FOR works!
If you pick the phone up and there's no dial tone, or the line's noisy, or keeps dropping - you complain. That's how the world works.

Pay for it - get it - so what?
Pay for it - don't get it - you yell!

Get the idea?