1.8.1 : Rejoice! Or flee in terror!

The Sandboxes and Welcome Area ARE IN FACT some of the most popular places! Why can't dwell be an impartial statistic instead of a revenue mechanism?

Probably because Live Help is tired of answering the question, "What are all these red lines all over the ground?" from people who have turned property lines on accidentally. The more complex key combo will make it much less likely for that to occur.

P2

Ah, that makes a ton of sense. I always knew what it was because hubby plays too, so I just asked him

Not to mention if you walk around with your chat bar open all the time (and most people I know do, anyway.) then just P doesn't work, you just type P in your chat bar.

Not everyone is having issues, I might point out. Chew on that while you're calling people ignorant. I can go to most places just fine without seeing grey after a very short loading time. Not only that, but different people who are having problems have cited different major releases as being the source of their troubles. Your experience is just as subjective as everyone elses, so kindly step down from your stage. The lights already went out.

Yeah, seriously. I already talked to the person in question though, they're going to look into vendors as a replacement option for having everything out.

Boosting your RAM does help a bit but in my experience I found the graphics card to show more improvement then RAM..

For instance: I have 2 computers that I can run SL on
the main one has a pentium 4, 1gb ram, 256mb graphic card (PCI slot)
secondary has a 2.1ghz processor, 512mb RAM, 256mb graphic card (AGP slot)
ok both graphic card's are the same excpet one is PCI and one is AGP
One day I logged on 2 avitars same attachments and went to the same club stood in the same place will as close as I could hit shift+Ctrl+1 to bring up the sim display and I was surprized to see that the main computer (PCI slot) was running an FPS of 12-15 and the secondary computer(AGP slot) was running a FPS of 22-25.
On the main computer there were several grey areas where textures were still loading
On the second computer which is almost half the power of the main one EVERYTHING was fully rezzed in just a few seconds of ariving.
So I believe it has to be the differnce between the card slot type of graphic card or I could be wrong?

Woot!

/me brings te caviar.

Or, have an alternate list of "Most Popular Linden Places".

Actually, Numbakulla sim was very close to making it to the list recently (and no camping chairs required). The lack of the sandboxes could have tipped it into the list.

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I am running a P4 (2.6) with 1 Gb RAM. I have a 1Mb connection which will usually give me speeds of between 960 kbps and 980 kbps. I have an NVidia 6800GT card with 256 RAM.

I am getting the same recent texturing problems.

I have 2 gigs of ram, a 3.4 ghz dual processor Pentium-D, with 2 gigs of memory and Geforce 7800 GT card with 256 megs of memory. I have both DSL and a cable modem from two different companies, so two completely different connections to test with as well. Since version 1.7, I am experiencing many of the texture issues that others are reporting- especially the problem of textures just never downloading or taking an ridiculous amount of time - sometimes 20 minutes or more. To keep blaming the users is a smokescreen covering up some major flaws. There is something seriously fucked with the texture loading in SL - to deny that is just stupid.

It is probably your drivers or ISP. Have you tried reinstalling SL and clearing your cache? Please submit any inquiries to [email]bit-bucket@secondlife.com[/email] for optimal ignoring.

Thanks for your cooperation and remember to keep submitting those bug reports as it makes you feel momentarily useful.

Did I mention we now have ripply water*, whiner?

[*only on GPUs that have native support for ripply water]

Repeating this for Phoenix to read again.

Well, I am newer to SL than most of you I think. I was not even around for 1.7 and came in right after 1.8.0.9. I have been having this texture problem since I got the game, I kinda just got used to it but now that everyone is talking about how fast it used to be it makes me wonder....

I logged in last night to find every 'rendered' object from my hud icons to the sky itself flickering black. It was freaking odd. I needed a reboot anyhow, so I rebooted....
and logged back in, same thing.

Turns out something got pooched with Water Ripple, since I turned it off and the problem stopped. It let me turn it back on without any real trouble. *shrug*.

No no, see we are all imagining these problems...it is all our fault

Just remember...there is no spoon.
There are no textures ;P

I agree you must have a decent machine to take full advantage of what SL has to offer. However, I am getting the same problems as indicated, slow rezzing, a lot of gray, it takes forever for my house to rezz up upon entry into SL. I think I have a pretty decent machine too so it has to be something else.

Dell 8400
2ghz RAM
Nvida GeForce 6800 GTO Video Card with 512 mhz
250 ghz hard drive
3.4 ghz processor

Preference in SL all set to min possible for still a good view

So what else is causing me to have slow rezz time, a lot of gray things, etc

Repeating this for Margaret to read again:


All I am saying is that since not everyone is having the same issues, there is a strong indication that this is not a generalized problem. Case in point: Cristiano's description of his computer:



Cristiano's machine is far superior to mine in several ways.

He has a Pentium-D at 3.4 GHz. I have only an AMD Athlon XP running at a little over 2 GHz.

He has 2 GB of RAM; I have only 1.5 GB.

He has a Geforce 7800 GT card with 256 MB of memory; I have an ATI Radeon 9600 with only 128 MB, and of course we all know that ATI cards aren't supposed to play nice with SL.

He didn't say how fast his DSL and cable connections are rated, but I have a 4 Mbps cable connection.

From his description, however, it seems that I am getting far superior performance in SL. I have never seen the grey for 20 minutes as he describes, or for hours as some have said. In most cases, any textures that won't load for me immediately do so within a couple of minutes, max.

I'm not saying that there are no problems with SL; I am not putting the blame exclusively on members, either. I think the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

What I do hold to, however, is that if these problems were exclusively caused by a fault within SL itself, we would either see a) virtually everyone having near-identical issues, or b) players with less capable machines having greater problems than those with more powerful machines, and that simply does not appear to be the case. By rights, I should be getting poorer performance than Cristiano, and that doesn't seem to be the case.

Comments?

P2

Wow. I want 2ghz of RAM, a 512mhz video card and a 250ghz hard drive! No fair!

It is a screamer, I love it....also have high speed DSL..to boot....Was a nice after major surgery present.....smile.....but was not worth going through quadruple bypass for....smile

I hear all these comments....I still think the problem is within SL...not the user....I hear about all these high power systems having the same problems....an I clean my cache daily too.....

Needs a cup of coffee NOWWWWWWWWWWW!

Thats alot of hurtz... LOL!

The next question that everyone needs to ask at this point is what applications or processes, besides SL, are you running. I've got a 1.2 GHz AMD Athalon, with 1 Gig of RAM, and a 256 Nvidia GeForce 6200fx (AGP) card. I usually have a little bit of a slow load time, and I expect that. SL is definatly that game that is a processor Hog. There is absolutly no denying that.

But saying that the issues are purely LL's fault is completely and utterly wrong (but it is partially their fault). The nature of this beast is that the member will create the world, create the things that other users see and do.

Most games are streamlined to provide the best user experience, and unfortunatly with a game like SL, there is no way for LL to "Stream-line" the game so everyone has the best user experience. Most game companies spend thousand, sometimes millions, paying designers, programmers, QA people, and consultants to figure out how to get the most FPS and that really cool ripple water effect, but still make the user experience that best it possibly can be. LL's does not have that capability, because it is basically the end user (us) who have to decide whether or not we want to streamline our designs,textures, etc.

If LL were to go around and say "hey, put those textures down to 512x512....hey, you over there, turn off lighting on that giant penis statue.....hey, you, with the script, make it listen every 2 minutes, not 30 seconds", there would be this HUGE uprising among all of the residents. It is the users fault in some respect. It's the nature of the beast. LL can do everything they possibly can, between updating the resource and asset servers, and looking for ways to trim down the code and make it run faster, and it will not fix alot of the problems we see because, as should be fully transparent, most of us in the world creating content, more than just the ones making camping chairs, or creating casino/clubs, are amatuers. Most of us have had little to no formal eductation in game design, most of us are tinkerers, we love to learn new skills, then put it to the test and see what we can break.

Going back to what applications and processes a person might be running, I am taking a full shot in the dark here, and have no idea if this is true or not, but in my case, sometimes i'll be running photoshop in the background while i'm running SL, and there have been times when I would be working on a texture, get an IM in world, and go back to SL, without turning of photoshop. This is two applications that can be big resource hogs, and running them at the same time, they each fight for how much processing power they have to use. This will slow down my SL experience. Another really good tip for running SL with the most power available is to turn off any non-essential applications (photoshops, AIM, P2P software, Poser, etc.) so those few extra processes those applications are using will be available for SL.