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Lewis Nerd

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Join date: 9 Oct 2005

Posts: 3,431

06-21-2006 07:11

A thought occurred to me. Rare, yes, but bear with me.

Over the last week or so, the forums have been dreadfully laggy, much worse than normal, with pages refusing to open and sometimes minutes for anything to happen.

The forums are connected to the resident account database, to retrieve the poster names.

We have had an influx of 'new accounts', mostly fakes, alts and griefers, due to LL's stupid new policy.

Therefore the signup/account database server has been working a lot harder.

Could this be the source of the delays affecting the forums?

Lewis

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Wendel Gascoigne

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Join date: 19 May 2005

Posts: 226

06-21-2006 07:16

Forum performance is much more likely to be affected by how many people are browsing, running searches and hitting refresh on the page than by having to verify your login information once when you sign on.

With the furore about the new changes, I think it's just that there is more activity on the forum (simply hitting refresh to see if your favourite rant thread has had replies, for example), making them struggle a bit.

Finding one indexed logon ID in a table of even a million entries takes milliseconds.

Wendel

Moopf Murray

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Join date: 7 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,448

06-21-2006 07:20

Lewis, the forums have been like this for a month at least so I don't agree that that's the main cause, although I'm sure it contributes a little.

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Eata Kitty

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Join date: 21 Jan 2005

Posts: 387

06-21-2006 07:57

There are no enterprise grade solutions for message boards and Vbulletin is meant to be very inefficient. You have to basically keep throwing more servers at it to keep it responsive.

Cindy Claveau

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Join date: 16 May 2005

Posts: 2,008

06-21-2006 09:52

Based on this morning's board traffic, we can now safely assume that the forum lag is an intentional "time sink" inserted by the Lindens so that, when one of the Lindens posts anonymously and exposes the REAL problems with unverified griefers and spikes in AR volume, the thread can be deleted before too many people even get a chance to read it and respond.

Thread gone, problem covered up, nothing to see here. Move along.

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Devlin Gallant

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Join date: 18 Jun 2003

Posts: 5,948

06-21-2006 10:39

The forums seem to have two speeds today. Slow. And dead stop. I think Linden Lab needs to change it's name to Linden Lag.

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Ordinal Malaprop

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Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 4,607

06-21-2006 10:43

From: Moopf Murray

Lewis, the forums have been like this for a month at least

More than that I reckon.

Come on, LL, it doesn't look very good to potential investors, does it? (Although I'm not sure whether you'd want potential investors reading the forums anyway, bunch of reprobates that we are here

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Introvert Petunia

over 2 billion posts

Join date: 11 Sep 2004

Posts: 2,065

06-21-2006 14:10

This was already given a twice over by LL in Second Life Answers. Short summary: they have other priorities.

Forum lag... I wonder...
Lewis Nerd Nerd by name and nature! Join date: 9 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,431	06-21-2006 07:11 A thought occurred to me. Rare, yes, but bear with me. Over the last week or so, the forums have been dreadfully laggy, much worse than normal, with pages refusing to open and sometimes minutes for anything to happen. The forums are connected to the resident account database, to retrieve the poster names. We have had an influx of 'new accounts', mostly fakes, alts and griefers, due to LL's stupid new policy. Therefore the signup/account database server has been working a lot harder. Could this be the source of the delays affecting the forums? Lewis _____________________ Second Life Stratics - your new premier resource for all things Second Life. Free to join, sign up today! Pocket Protector Projects - Rosieri 90,234,84 - building and landscaping services
Wendel Gascoigne Registered User Join date: 19 May 2005 Posts: 226	06-21-2006 07:16 Forum performance is much more likely to be affected by how many people are browsing, running searches and hitting refresh on the page than by having to verify your login information once when you sign on. With the furore about the new changes, I think it's just that there is more activity on the forum (simply hitting refresh to see if your favourite rant thread has had replies, for example), making them struggle a bit. Finding one indexed logon ID in a table of even a million entries takes milliseconds. Wendel
Moopf Murray Moopfmerising Join date: 7 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,448	06-21-2006 07:20 Lewis, the forums have been like this for a month at least so I don't agree that that's the main cause, although I'm sure it contributes a little. _____________________
Eata Kitty Registered User Join date: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 387	06-21-2006 07:57 There are no enterprise grade solutions for message boards and Vbulletin is meant to be very inefficient. You have to basically keep throwing more servers at it to keep it responsive.
Cindy Claveau Gignowanasanafonicon Join date: 16 May 2005 Posts: 2,008	06-21-2006 09:52 Based on this morning's board traffic, we can now safely assume that the forum lag is an intentional "time sink" inserted by the Lindens so that, when one of the Lindens posts anonymously and exposes the REAL problems with unverified griefers and spikes in AR volume, the thread can be deleted before too many people even get a chance to read it and respond. Thread gone, problem covered up, nothing to see here. Move along. _____________________
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	06-21-2006 10:39 The forums seem to have two speeds today. Slow. And dead stop. I think Linden Lab needs to change it's name to Linden Lag. _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	06-21-2006 10:43 From: Moopf Murray Lewis, the forums have been like this for a month at least More than that I reckon. Come on, LL, it doesn't look very good to potential investors, does it? (Although I'm not sure whether you'd want potential investors reading the forums anyway, bunch of reprobates that we are here )
Introvert Petunia over 2 billion posts Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 2,065	06-21-2006 14:10 This was already given a twice over by LL in Second Life Answers. Short summary: they have other priorities.

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