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Is This True - You Can't Make New Avatars???

Argent Stonecutter
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04-05-2006 14:31
From: Kurshie Muromachi
If that's the case then just prevent people from getting sign-up bonus on ALT accounts. Right?
Yeh, I wondered why they allowed that.

As for the custom names... I have a feeling that the Lindens may still not allow us to change to a custom name, just create a new account with one. The comments I've seen from them have been kind of lukewarm at best on being able to change them.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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04-05-2006 16:11
We can make accounts with cell phone numbers now, I think.


Here's a quote from Daniel Linden on the subject:

From: Daniel Linden
We've set the account creation limits at two per Credit Card or Paypal, and five per household. These restrictions are in place on the Registration page, and in most cases those with a reasonable need for additional account per card or household can get one by contacting Support.

These limits were always meant to be based on active accounts -- but the current implementation counts closed accounts. That doesn't make a lot of sense, and we'll get that fixed.

We've put these controls in place, primarily, to combat fraud. Because Second Life is an intensely social space where many Residents have invested serious amounts of time, money, and energy, we feel it makes sense to take steps to help make indentity in-world as tangible and vaulable as possible.

Any Second Life Resident can easily have their account and an alt if they so choose; their partner, sibliing, or other household memeber with a seperate form of payment is not restricted from creating additional accounts. These are very reasonable limits, and they help protect the Second Life community. For what possible reason could one person need 30 accounts?


And Torley mentions the Paypal thingie:

From: Torley
The current account creation limits are 2 per credit card or PayPal account, or 5 per household.


Note that Daniel says "These limits were always meant to be based on active accounts -- but the current implementation counts closed accounts. That doesn't make a lot of sense, and we'll get that fixed."

I think there is another option beyond credit cards, paypal accounts, and cell phone numbers - but I don't remember what it is.
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Martin Magpie
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04-05-2006 16:28
....Now if they did away with stippends then they could open up av creation to as many as ppl wanted. Correct. Hell of a way to fix a problem if you ask me.
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Nyx Divine
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04-05-2006 16:32
From: Amber Lehane
Maybe I should keep my trap shut on this but I have about 3 accounts. Two of which I use alot more then the third. Now to my knowledge I used my same credit card for all of them. Maybe I was grandfathered in since they only started doing this?


Yeah I have 1 credit card for all our accounts (5) and we also must have been grandfathered in. Two are our main premiums, (me and hubby's) the other 3 just basics that I don't do much with, except when I'm feeling anti-social and wanna mess around in world w/out anyone knowing I'm on.
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Mulch Ennui
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04-06-2006 05:07
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
We can make accounts with cell phone numbers now, I think.


Here's a quote from Daniel Linden on the subject:



And Torley mentions the Paypal thingie:



Note that Daniel says "These limits were always meant to be based on active accounts -- but the current implementation counts closed accounts. That doesn't make a lot of sense, and we'll get that fixed."

I think there is another option beyond credit cards, paypal accounts, and cell phone numbers - but I don't remember what it is.


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good thing we have big brothers at the laboratory to address this
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Corvus Drake
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04-06-2006 07:09
I have to say, I don't mind.

I say that because I don't want some shmoe selling me free skins without my knowledge for L$999 per skin, getting busted doing it and his business tanked as a result, then coming back as someone else and doing it all over again.

I'd rather it this way than like every other online community, where people use alts to escape responsibility for their actions.
Sean Martin
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04-06-2006 10:48
From: Ghoti Nyak
This is true.

I have a cancelled account, and was told it still took up one of the '2 accounts per creditcard and 5 accounts per household' allotment. IMO its the stupidest thing in the world. I was offered no information as to WHY this cancelled accounts still count, but I was told the limit on total number of accounts is because people game the system for the stipend, and the limits supposedly prevent this.

-Ghoti

There is a way around that 5 accouts per house hold even. So why even have this limit if that is the only reason. :rolleyes:
I think they just don't want to mess with it because so few yell about the subject.
Until now maybe. :D
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Sean Martin
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04-06-2006 10:50
From: Monique Mistral
Stupidest, most counterintuitive thing I ever heard!

Besides, if preventing stipend exploitation is the reason, the regulation will be of zero use in any case. You'd still be limited to 2 accounts (closing one, opening another), so how on earth could that serve the reason given???

Jesus Christ!

We can have up to 5 at once per house hold. (Billing address)
But it's still an easy thing to get around so it's pointless for sure.
Unless they don't want to mess with the amount of account creation and all the fun that comes with.
In the least they should make a better warning before people cancel an account thinking they can make another. Only to find they lost an account.
The only people this hurts are those who are not trying to scam LL.
For those who do have the knowledge to scam the system, it's an easy work around.
Makes no sense.
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04-06-2006 12:28
From: Dianne Mechanique
Just to chime in on how stupid this is. :)


To make matters worse, several players who started before the limits on avatars were lowered have many more avatars than we are currently allowed, so its not even fair that way either.


I wish LLabs would deal with these people and delete theor over populated alt list! Gesh you know why they don`t? Because most are big time players that kiss the asses of LLabs and get away with it. Droping weekly pay did nothing to stop the abuse it just caused them to sit in money chairs/dances pays to make up the difference! Gesh LLabs get yur head out of you rabbit butt! :rolleyes: :mad:
Argent Stonecutter
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04-06-2006 13:10
From: Sean Martin
The only people this hurts are those who are not trying to scam LL.
For those who do have the knowledge to scam the system, it's an easy work around.
Precisely. The guy selling the ripoff skin will still get back in with an alt on another credit card, and the guy who didn't realise he shouldn't use his Yahoo Mail account name because then he'd be stuck with "beanbrain101 Smith" loses.
Monique Mistral
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04-06-2006 13:46
Well spoken. I think we need to do something about this. Maybe a petition list and present to LL or something...

They obviously need a wakey, wakey call.
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04-06-2006 14:45
Feature suggestion: no-stipend accounts.

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Monique Mistral
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04-06-2006 14:50
From: Hiro Pendragon
Feature suggestion: no-stipend accounts.

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I don't know... maybe. But I don't feel the restricted number of accounts is the problem. The idiocy lies in not letting you close and open new ones when you wish to change name and personality.

Like the Linden's themselves state, the situation is because they have trouble with their own software, not because of any elaborate functionality plan on their part:

From: someone
Note that Daniel says "These limits were always meant to be based on active accounts -- but the current implementation counts closed accounts. That doesn't make a lot of sense, and we'll get that fixed."


And finally, I personally need the stipends and so do countless of others. It's still a major source of income for me, since I don't understand how to use the creation tools effectively and I don't have a good image editing program. (I'm great at drawing with a pencil though! :) )
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Jiffy Jezebel
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04-07-2006 00:33
The two accounts only per card even after canceeling one is absurd.

I wished to close one account entirely and start anew... wrote to Linden, and they refused flat.

The 'five accounts per household' is meaningless when one only has one credit card.

How does Paypal fit into all this? Could I use that account to create a new character?

Silly system.
Argent Stonecutter
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04-07-2006 06:47
From: Hiro Pendragon
Feature suggestion: no-stipend accounts.

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I don't see what stipends have to do with this. Creating an alt costs US$10. That's L$3000. That's over a year's worth of Basic stipend - it's not cost effective. It makes even less sense when you've deleted an account to make room for the new one!

I'd say... no signup bonus, no initial bonus, sure. But there's no economic reason for LL to hold the "slot" forever.
CrystalShard Foo
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04-07-2006 07:12
One thing that no one seemed to note though...

... SecondLife is not a game. You are not here to play SecondLife, though you can choose to play a game people create or run within it (including your own little fantasy - which seems like what most people prefer to do) - but that has nothing to do with the fact SecondLife itself is not here as a game.

Its a platform.

Sorry Monique.
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