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Currently, the group tools work like [...]

1. All officers[...] are equal in rights and privileges.
2. All funds taken in by the group from vendors, land sales, and dwell circulate equally to all officers and members
3. Any officer can totally screw any other officer by selling all the group's land to himself for $0 and then reselling it behind the other officers' back.
4. Any member can flip an officer recall on an officer, even if he paid for the land.
5. No member has the right even to return a prim in their way, much less put in music on their parcel within a group.

[...] [This can] lead to one officer screwing another by stealing his land; or [,,,] one member screwing up the entire group and freezing it with a rogue officer recall, and installing a non-investing officer in to take over the group.

The [...]current tools so discourage risk-taking and investment that they constitute a serious hobble on the game.

[...], by making the land "everybody's land in the group" the group tools encourage an attitude of entitlement, which, when pressed to its worst form, leads to "therefore if it is anybody's I'll grab it for myself."

[...] even though some people might contribute more by a purchase price, or more in tier, the land is "everybody's" and can be stripped away from that investor by other officers or by rogue members triggering officer recall.

Group tools were meant to be used benignly by groups of well-meaning [...] [people]. It wasn't meant to be this way -- robbing people of their land or investment or tier. Yet...so often that has happened or attempts at it have happened that make people scared to form groups, scared to pool tier, scared to cooperate.
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Groups matter. They matter because they are just as much building blocks of this world as prims, although few people are willing to spend the time on them they deserve.

What I would advocate is a changing of the group functions and a new perception of them as functions, not roles, and not types of groups. This way, anyone, whether a landlord setting up tenants, or a king setting up his serfs, or an artist setting up his collaborators, or a dom his subs, could use the group tools for whatever they like.

Here's the list of functions that would then be toggled:

o Founds Group, Pays $100
o Names Group
o Invites Members
o Expels Members
o Invites Officers
o Expels Officers
o Names Titles
o Pays Purchase Price of Land
o Pays Tier
o Names Land and Describes Land
o Puts Land in Find Places
o Sets Landing Point
o Returns Prims
o Parcels Land
o Sets Music/Video
o Sells Land
o Purchases Land
o Takes Land Out of Group
o Announces Events
o Makes Proposals for Votes
o Sends Group IMs
o Deeds Objects
o Collects and Distributes Income
o Collects and Distributes Dwell
o Terraforms and Landscapes

These 24 functions would be mixed and matched up by the founder or founders -- the first thing the original founder did if he wanted would be to click off the "founder" toggle for 2 other people or the "officer" or "member" title and then toggle every permission he'd like them to have. While it might seem some work at the beginning, it will be a huge boon for a club to be able to have members that can just return prims, or just set music, or just deed created objects, or have the full range of permissions if they wish.

Dammit I knew I should have nominated Billy's farewell / faked funeral thread

You have the names switched on the first two. Resident Abuse was Hank's, and I Don't Get It was Pahoa.

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How can anyone not vote for this?

One might think people would have nominated their advertisement threads in the classifieds.

You forgot other or none of the above.

LOL your forget all the Really Ricky spam all over the forum aren`t you! Those crys for help should be at the top don`t you think LOL! Shhhhhhhhh becafeful he has power now LOL!

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