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Should basic stipends stay or go away?

Cocoanut Koala
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01-04-2006 10:59
You know, making polls is such a bummer, because you KNOW that no matter how hard you try, you're going to leave out at least one obvious option!

Nonetheless, here are the options:

1. I like the stipends as they are: $50 for basic members, and $500 for premium accounts.

2. The stipends should stay as they are, but we shouldn't be getting as much.

3. The stipends should stay as they are, but we should get more.

4. Keep the basic stipend, but eliminate the premium stipend.

5. Keep the premium stipend, but eliminate the basic stipend.

6. Keep both stipends, but make the premium higher, and/or the basic lower, or vice versa.

7. Eliminate both stipends.

Whew - surely that covers all the bases.

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01-04-2006 11:01
There's no 'Other' option. Like 'Badgers are awesome.'
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01-04-2006 11:01
I think they should stay, for now. If SL's platform eventually goes to be open-source, and the browser of the future? Then I'd say we'd need something more along the lines of a PayPal/eBay to deal with commerce across the platform... perhaps removing L$ completely and just dealing in RL currencies.

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Kris Ritter
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Should basic stipends stay or go away?
01-04-2006 11:08
Yes! And I am unanimous in that.
Enabran Templar
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01-04-2006 11:10
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Then I'd say we'd need something more along the lines of a PayPal/eBay to deal with commerce across the platform... perhaps removing L$ completely and just dealing in RL currencies.


Indeed. Once we're looking at an open platform, the complimentary currency model we use now will fall by the wayside.

Currently, the amount of stipend currency grows at a fixed rate with each new resident account created. I think scaling the currency supply in this fashion is a safe bet. For the time being, stipends are a good idea and have limited potential for abuse if Linden Lab watches account creation closely. I'm not sure I can think of a better way to scale and pace the currency supply than we've already got.

With the bonuses and other money flooders out of the way, I think we're in good shape.
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-04-2006 11:12
Which did you vote for, Enabran? I can't tell for sure from your post.

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01-04-2006 11:13
From: Kris Ritter
Yes! And I am unanimous in that.

HAHA!

And pie.
Enabran Templar
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01-04-2006 11:16
From: Cocoanut Koala
Which did you vote for, Enabran? I can't tell for sure from your post.



1. I like the stipends as they are: $50 for basic members, and $500 for premium accounts.
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-04-2006 11:17
Thanks, Enabran, that's what I thought.

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01-04-2006 11:17
From: Enabran Templar
Indeed. Once we're looking at an open platform, the complimentary currency model we use now will fall by the wayside.

Currently, the amount of stipend currency grows at a fixed rate with each new resident account created. I think scaling the currency supply in this fashion is a safe bet. For the time being, stipends are a good idea and have limited potential for abuse if Linden Lab watches account creation closely. I'm not sure I can think of a better way to scale and pace the currency supply than we've already got.

With the bonuses and other money flooders out of the way, I think we're in good shape.


Nicely stated.
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01-04-2006 11:53
So far, I'm satasfied with the status quo stipend wise, but I am not an economist.
Magnum Serpentine
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01-04-2006 13:41
From: Enabran Templar
Indeed. Once we're looking at an open platform, the complimentary currency model we use now will fall by the wayside.

Currently, the amount of stipend currency grows at a fixed rate with each new resident account created. I think scaling the currency supply in this fashion is a safe bet. For the time being, stipends are a good idea and have limited potential for abuse if Linden Lab watches account creation closely. I'm not sure I can think of a better way to scale and pace the currency supply than we've already got.

With the bonuses and other money flooders out of the way, I think we're in good shape.



We are not in good shape.

We need the Bonus and DI back because 90 percent of the people who are here are not here to make this their second job. They are here to have fun.
Magnum Serpentine
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01-04-2006 13:43
From: Enabran Templar
1. I like the stipends as they are: $50 for basic members, and $500 for premium accounts.


No I say, increase them. $5000 for Basic and $10000 for Premium and $25000 for Lifetime 225.00 dollar accounts and $50,000 for Sim owners per week.
Ordinal Malaprop
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01-04-2006 13:45
I just don't see the benefits that come from DI, and haven't over the whole debate. (Or, rather, don't see that the benefits outweigh the incessant gaming of it.) It's not fun. You don't get DI for being, or having, fun.

edit: ah hell, should probably not have started that one again
Jonquille Noir
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01-04-2006 13:46
Keep them as they are.
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Maeve Morgan
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01-04-2006 13:47
From: Magnum Serpentine
No I say, increase them. $5000 for Basic and $10000 for Premium and $25000 for Lifetime 225.00 dollar accounts and $50,000 for Sim owners per week.



Wow you really don't get this inflation thing at all, do you?
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01-04-2006 13:48
From: Magnum Serpentine
No I say, increase them. $5000 for Basic and $10000 for Premium and $25000 for Lifetime 225.00 dollar accounts and $50,000 for Sim owners per week.


That's a really neat idea, Magnum! You're really full of neat ideas! This one is my favorite neat idea, though:

From: Magnum Serpentine
I feel that even in the Real world everything should be free. We can get Robots and computers to make everything. And computers can be designed to repair themselves.


I like robots! :)
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-04-2006 13:49
Robots are cool!
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01-04-2006 13:51
can it be a sexy robot?
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01-04-2006 13:55
Yeah! Robot servants and orgasmatrons for all!
Magnum Serpentine
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01-04-2006 13:55
From: Enabran Templar
That's a really neat idea, Magnum! You're really full of neat ideas! This one is my favorite neat idea, though:



I like robots! :)



Nice response
Cory Edo
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01-04-2006 13:57
From: Maeve Morgan
can it be a sexy robot?


With the extra stipend cash, I can make my robot for the prom now.....my girl robot....he he he he
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Maeve Morgan
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01-04-2006 14:02
From: Cory Edo
With the extra stipend cash, I can make my robot for the prom now.....my girl robot....he he he he


That was exactly what I thought of when I read this thread the first time :D
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01-04-2006 14:07
I also voted to have them stay as they are, but I have said before. The biggest constant in SL is that there are no constants. Times change, things change, have to live with them :)
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01-04-2006 14:10
Magnum, PLEASE buy this book:

Economics for Dummies

Its actually quite a good book from quite a good series.

To quote the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...in case you don't get the satire, its a reference to money growing on trees (thus the LEAF being legal tender):

"The Golgafrinchans' management consultant tried to arrange the meetings of the colonization committee along the lines of a traditional committee structure, complete with a chair and an agenda. He was also in charge of fiscal policy, and decided to adopt the leaf as legal tender, making everyone immensely rich. In order to solve the inflation problem this caused, he planned a major deforestation campaign to effectively revalue the leaf by burning down all the forests."

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy contains many, many other gems that everyone could learn from as well.

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