A way to deal with texture theft... but it will cost us, would you put up with it?

The thing is, solutions like this one don't "nail the obvious, ar[r]ogant, quickbuck rejects" half as much as they do the honest customers that have no idea what's going on. The second you get one false positive, it's game over for the honest users that don't care about the exploit process. Using the Warden client as an example, WoW "exploit" bans tend to net many honest people.


I'm not criticizing your intent so much as the thought process involved. "Spying at the source" is so easy to break that someone could easily code a way around it.

I'll continue this later. I need to run out the door at the moment.

Cilis, they aren't free, but I can give you the links right here-

Genetica
www.spiralgraphics.biz/genetica.htm

AlienSkin
http://www.alienskin.com/

Awesome thank you, they look like their worth buying

They really are, especially if you do ANY textured builds lately.

My big thing was cheating on single-player games, and I still cheat on single player games, but I have friends that have shown me what they do to cheat in multiplayer games, and let me tell you, even if the Lindens put something in place like people are describing, people would be able to find a way around it. BUT--at least then it would be only the experts that would know how to do it, and it would cut it back a lot of people from doing it. There are ways that people can get past any "cheatblock" in any multiplayer game--and what people are suggesting here is that they create a cheatblock for SL.

Another thing to consider--this type of security system in SL would increase lag on both ends.

My son does black and white photography, thats his art.
My daughter chooses paints and fabric swatches and glass shards and other things as her medium.
Very often she'll love one of his pictures and ask for it. She alters it, painting it, attaching glass and other things to it, completely changing it.
So when she does this, is it then still his art? No it has become her art. It doesn't matter what she used as her base. It doesn't matter that she didn't take the photo, she didn't make the fabrics, she didn't create the glass bottle she broke into bits for it. She combined all these things and they became her art.

Ok so in other words what your saying aslong as the person changed the design a little its ok, it then becomes the persons design.

I agree with that.
But thats not what I was talking about. What i said was most of the textures people are claiming to be theres are not patented and not there own creations. Textures in SL and paintings with glass and stuff in RL are not the same thing, and don't fall under the same guidelines.

Just to be clear so if anyone doesn't understand, a texture is not the object its self. A texture is what you put on the object to give it its look. with out textures the objects would all look like wood prims as its basic default look. as for clothing and skin with out custom none SL standard textures, they would look like the default SL skins and clothing.

and sadly the majority of people arn't so Talented, as to be able to make there own creations of textures, out of existing textures or out of none existing textures.

I know some of you don't like me, and post in oppiset of every single post i do to try to get me into a flame fest with you. if you don't like me ignore my post don't try to start a flame fest. lets all be nice and have a good time here.

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Repeating from a related thread:

This, along with many other technical "solutions" to this problem will all be moot when 3rd party clients become commonplace soon.

I hope every FOOL that favors this brainless idea would be equally willing to allow the police to install a little device in their car that notifies the police if you speed or run a red light ect so the police can mail you a ticket? The DAY LL announced something like this is the LAST day I would ever log in SL. That is non-negotiable and I fully understand the program suggested.

You need to stop following me and flaming every post i do trying to harass me.

Actually, I was reading this thread before you decided to pop out of your hole to spew more nonsense. And - if I recall correctly, which I do, merely RESPONDING to you is "harrassing you".

It isn't, at least not in the world where most adults live.

Now, don't you have something to do?

Don't give this government anymore ideas!!!!!

Just say NO to spyware.

And about those who use the program for legitimate purposes?

Indeed.

What legitimate reasons do you have for running it with SL?

I don't really care rather people yonk textures or not. I'm just really annoyed at the people bitching about texture yonking, then bitch about how possible solutions are stupid and add no input on how to improve the idea themselves.

Back in Febuary '05 I notified LL of asset security concerns in the client. I won't discuss my research directly but the proposals of this thread would not address the issues I highlighted. Nothing short of a Trusted Computing would address it; even that i'm pretty sure wouldn't work. Some of the security issues in SL are entirely out of the control of LL. Security starts at the hardware level; LL has no controll of the hardware. Thus asset security is a joke.

My research highlighted methods that gave better results then just about any other method (excluding a fake client).

I think even if it only got 30% of those doing it... the amount it would discurage would be well worth the hold in the developments of flexy sphere myself. Link your preposal?

For one, backing up content as a hard file. For another, porting said content to other purposes and applications (like Maya, Blender, or other professional 3D suites). Given SL offers no means of doing this itself, that's a pretty large incentive.

Well worth stalling flexy sphere sure. Well worth surrendering my privacy allowing searches of my private computer with no reasonable suspicion I commited a crime. HELL NO! I don't care if your "just searching for x cheat program" or "just searching for drugs in my house" or "just checking if I'm speeding(see earlier ignored post)" the answer is an emphatic NO! With government examples my protection from unreasonable search is the 4th amendment. With games it's to not play. I won't consider playing WOW because of their warden. I would leave SL in a heartbeat if they did the same. And as long as they don't I will clearly denounce anyone who considers freedom so worthless.

If they are your textures, shouldn't you have them already?

You are obviously batshit insane, specially if you think something that would check if you are running a certain program and gathers no further data is invading your privacy.

Uhm. GLintercept and OGLE are about more than textures, y'know. It's also meshes and UV coordinates. In fact, that was the point of it in the first place.


Surely you're joking.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

I, for one, am not willing to give up a little privacy to deal with this issue.