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Raise the price of private sims

Fmeh Tagore
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Join date: 12 Jul 2006
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07-22-2006 13:59
Making the world map load faster would be nice. It'd be nice if it even continued loading if you zoom out. The only time it actually starts loading information is when you're almost zoomed all the way in. I've waited 10 minutes with it zoomed at the halfway point and it loads nothing. If I want to explore new areas, I generally have to keep a window from the website map open and keep using alt-tab over and over, click on an area (and hope it doesn't say invalid area) and center the map to that area, zoom into the area, and wait a while, then zoom back out again. The main thing I wish is that it would store parts of the map locally on my machine whenever it loads the map so it's not almost completely blank whenever I relog in.
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Felix Uritsky
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Join date: 15 Dec 2004
Posts: 267
07-23-2006 01:06
I agree with the OP's sentiments, I too wish for the days when everything was on the mainland, I could pretty much fly from one place to another, and everything felt connected. With as many island sims as there are, the SL world feels way too disjointed for my tastes. Which is why I will never build on an island, so long as the mainland exists.

I wouldn't mind raising the price of an island either, seems like every other person owns one now. Connecting the sea of islands would make things a lot nicer for me, I enjoy long-distance flights in my jet.

Unfortunately, islands are profitable for LL, so I doubt anything will change. I just dislike the idea of the SL world turning into a disjointed collection of destinations like Star Wars Galaxies or something.
Allana Dion
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Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
07-23-2006 01:31
I can imagine a lot of island owners would opt out of being connected to the mainland or even connected to void sims. For one thing, if I ban someone on the mainland, that idiot can still sit on someone elses land right on my border and continue being a nuisance. If I ban someone on the island they're banned, they can't even get close.

Being able to limit access to teleport only is one of the benefits of owning an island. For instance the way Forum is set up, everyone who comes teleports into a spot directly in the main lobby so that right away they see people, they see whatever event is happening, they're close enough to be greeted and welcomed by the people there.

Plus, no planes crashing (unless our own members are doing it :) ), no ugly red ban lines and the lovely ocean view from all sides.
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Xplorer Cannoli
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Join date: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,131
07-23-2006 01:55
I read (when considering buying an island) that many islands will no longer be protected after March 2007 and may have mainland surround them. I wonder how that will work out.

To the person asking to buy a whole mainland sim, there is one now for sale. I believe it is Gnash Ramblers sim.

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Aleena Yoshiro
Elven Healer
Join date: 27 Feb 2005
Posts: 7
07-23-2006 02:40
I wish they'd allow the sim server software to be downloadable. For a modest fee, using your own hardware and internet, host your own sims.

It'd be good for the international community. Playing Second Life from places such as Australia is really challenging due to ping times.
Androclese Torgeson
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Join date: 11 May 2004
Posts: 144
07-23-2006 02:55
From: Zoe Llewelyn
No, because I don't have the same control and tools on the mainland I have in an estate. I simply can not make the things I can make in an estate on the mainland. Nor can I find an entire mainland sim for sale anywhere...can you?


I see them go up for auction all the time, but unless you are willing to fight "you know who" for them, or pay $3000.00 for one, then you are SOL.
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Siggy Romulus
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Join date: 22 Sep 2003
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07-23-2006 03:00
hmm I think you should look to the reasons people get island sims in the first place.

I'd be more inclined to say 'if the mainland wasn't such a tard ridden crapfactory - folks wouldn't need island sims.... the mainland is ruining SL!'

And yah - I lived on the mainland my entire time in SL up until this may.

I wonder why I never made the switch sooner.

(and I am far from rich)
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SirSticky Hornpipe
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Join date: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 43
07-23-2006 04:49
I owned a large plot of land on the mainland for a short while, i found the the surrounding land owners buildings and projects brought my area to an almost standstill due to lag.
So i decided to aquire an island for myself. I havent looked back since.
Having total control over the island eg: terraforming, limiting AV's has been a godsend, I can do what i like there and any lag caused is no fault but my own.
I didnt get the island to make money tho i do have a small casino and a small vendor rental area, I got it so i could spend times with friends and play around building and scripting without any disturbance from adjoing areas..
So i say do not raise the price of islands in fact i would say to lower the price .. cheaper islands would mean more ppl buying islands .. so LL would profit in the longterm
Alan Edison
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Join date: 28 Jun 2004
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07-23-2006 05:12
From: Cheetham Hill
I reckon LL should put the price of private sims up considerably before SL turns into little more than a disjointed collection of islands and the mainland becomes nothing but a repository of dross. All the decent shops, medium-to-large businesses and even some individual residents going out and buying their own sims is ruining SL.

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how do you know its ruining SL? i love new blood in sl and no offence, how do u know its actually ruining SL? do you know what SL was like before every1 got priv sims?
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Yiffy Yaffle
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Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
07-23-2006 06:18
From: Cheetham Hill
I reckon LL should put the price of private sims up considerably before SL turns into little more than a disjointed collection of islands and the mainland becomes nothing but a repository of dross. All the decent shops, medium-to-large businesses and even some individual residents going out and buying their own sims is ruining SL.

:(

If anything they should LOWER it.. So i could have my own private sim. I am not willing to shell out that much money but i would settle for half that. Untill then i partually fund a existing sim.
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Xerses Goff
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07-23-2006 06:20
Unfortunatley, to build the projects the I enjoy, it is beginning to appear that the islands are the best answer.

While I enjoy thong ads, range detecting notecard spammers, large red lag producing rotating signs and an abundance of oriental goodness as much as the next guy, it it getting very tiresome creating a project then being greifed to purchase a 64m for $4,000 or put up with obnoxious signs or suddenly find access cut off from three sides.

For example, there is now a 64m casino ball nearby in the middle of what had been a residental area running enough scripts to launch a NASA flight. It also shouts across four plots. It negatively impacts the sim performance, in addition to being an eyesore.

I came to SL for community and I do think that retreating to an island makes it harder to accomplish that (though there are other ways). And I do think that maintaining the mainland is important to getting new players into the game and providing people who would really like to just enjoy the game with a way to own land and feel connected.

However, most of us get enough grief in first life without having to freelance some additional here. And I am getting wary of investing more time and money in the mainland when the projects and work can be affected by so many other factors.
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Almitra Blair
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Join date: 10 Feb 2004
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07-23-2006 06:49
From: Musuko Massiel
It'd be nice to see void sims all across the empty spaces between the private islands. Perhaps there could be an option for private sim owners to connect or disconnect from the void: becoming an island in an endless sea, that players could fly/sail across to reach other private island sims, or disconnect from it, with a ring of non-void sims around their sim, like we have now.

Musuko.



Well they do have this option available to the island owners already *cough*, we looked into obtaining void sims adjacent to our island where surfing and boating contests could be held and just for sailing space :) The Lindens proposed to us to have said ring of sims for the mere price of 4 "regular" sims!!! So if an island owner wants to shell out another 4800, they can have the void sims, where you can't build, can't terraform, but you still pay the start up fee AND if my memory is correct, the monthly fee's applied as well :eek: We opted for running as fast as we could back to our lil sanctuary!!
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Cherry Czervik
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Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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07-23-2006 06:49
From: Cheetham Hill
*sings the advert jingle* "That's a bright idea!"

Bring able to explore the private islands by boat would be fantastic, just sailing round aimlessly to see what I found.


Yes, wouldn't it. Now be the person who has put their money into the Sim and are paying
the tier to do their own thing in SL in peace and have random people turning up in the middle of what they are doing all the time.

When I get my island, it's going to be invisible. Do I feel bad about that? Not really.
Ophelie Ennui
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Join date: 29 Apr 2005
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07-23-2006 06:57
From: Cheetham Hill
Nah - I personally prefer the world to be a coherent grid of sims that I can navigate if I want to. These islands were fine when there were just a few of them, but now there's actually more of them than there are mainland sims! Every Tom, Dick and Furry is getting their hands on the things and the map is becoming just useless clutter.



Yeah I agree. I've always prefered the mainland to island sims because i like the idea of a real world that you can travel around. But so often something annoying goes up next to you on the mainland that just makes you want to get the heck out.
Cheetham Hill
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Join date: 15 Jul 2006
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07-23-2006 07:10
From: Cherry Czervik
Yes, wouldn't it. Now be the person who has put their money into the Sim and are paying
the tier to do their own thing in SL in peace and have random people turning up in the middle of what they are doing all the time.

When I get my island, it's going to be invisible. Do I feel bad about that? Not really.


But if all you want to do is sit there on your own, why not get a free copy of Blender and do it to your heart's content - it's cheaper, and leaves the grid for those of us who'd rather be sociable.
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