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Asian skin for sale on SLX - resale or theft?

Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 16:36
Someone named (removed) has an Asian skin on SLX which looks suspiciously good, considering that the rest of the stuff in the person's catalog is junk.

Would the professional skin designers here please take a look and see if this is a resale item or what?
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Summer Carmichael
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06-29-2006 16:56
From: Merlyn Bailly
Someone named [removed named name] has an Asian skin on SLX which looks suspiciously good, considering that the rest of the stuff in the person's catalog is junk.

Would the professional skin designers here please take a look and see if this is a resale item or what?


I believe you had good intentions.
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Zoe Llewelyn
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06-29-2006 16:58
Could you give a bit more info? There are hundreds of pages of skins and the name you gave yields nothing in search. A link to the page itself would be most helpful.
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nimrod Yaffle
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06-29-2006 17:02
From: Merlyn Bailly
Someone named [removed named name] has an Asian skin on SLX which looks suspiciously good, considering that the rest of the stuff in the person's catalog is junk.

Would the professional skin designers here please take a look and see if this is a resale item or what?

Unless you want this thread locked, I'd advise taking out the name. :-/

Edit: She doesn't even show up in the find people list in-world.
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Lo Jacobs
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06-29-2006 17:09
Can you PM me a link?
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Io Zeno
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06-29-2006 17:13
Name was mispelled. Link:

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=100969
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Io Zeno
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06-29-2006 17:17
I gave the link, btw, not to bolster Merlyn's position, but to give the evidence, because this person, who is named, is innocent until proven guilty. She may just have a gift for skins, who knows.
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Joannah Cramer
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06-29-2006 17:19
From: nimrod Yaffle
Edit: She doesn't even show up in the find people list in-world.

First name is wrong. You can search for last name only to find who i suppose is the person in question.
Lo Jacobs
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06-29-2006 17:22


Merlyn is correct. The skin in question is one of Starley Thereian's. It was sold in Starley's store (Celestial Studios) until through an exploit it was released with full permissions -- so she made it a freebie.

This person should not be selling this skin.
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Six Kennedy
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06-29-2006 17:24
it looks like its only the shape that is for sale there :P

Wait .. my bad it does say include sshape skin and eyes but being that its only for 140L .. maybe thats just the price for the shape ? * shrugs *
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katykiwi Moonflower
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06-29-2006 17:25
From: Merlyn Bailly
Someone named [removed named name] has an Asian skin on SLX which looks suspiciously good, considering that the rest of the stuff in the person's catalog is junk.

Would the professional skin designers here please take a look and see if this is a resale item or what?
I really find this post to be incredibly offensive to say nothing about violating the TOS. You have absolutley no reason to even think this is a stolen skin other than you THINK the quality surpasses other items made by this member. Really, how dare you act so inconsiderately.

Every single content creator in SL had a learning curve. I have been here for a long time and have watched the progression of texturing skills for many content creators. Who is to say that this member has not improved with practice?

In addition, did you know you can buy premade skins ALL OVER THE NET? Ones made by advanced graphic designers and there are programs that stretch the skins to fit onto an SL avatar template.

You owe this member a big apology for your horrible behavior as well as a TOS violation sanction from LL. Even if this skin was made by another member the way you accused without knowing is totally inappropriate.
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Zoe Llewelyn
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06-29-2006 17:28
Yes, that is Starley's Malibu Passport skin. The person in question does say in the ad they are selling the avatar, including shape, skin and eyes.

Starley may wish to PM the site admin and have it taken down until the person can offer it without the skin.
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Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 18:37
From: Summer Carmichael
I believe you had good intentions.


So? WTF does that mean?
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Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 18:39
From: Zoe Llewelyn
Could you give a bit more info? There are hundreds of pages of skins and the name you gave yields nothing in search. A link to the page itself would be most helpful.


I would, but at the moment I keep getting blank pages for SLX uncensored. It's in the MOST RECENT listings.
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Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 18:40
From: Lo Jacobs
Merlyn is correct. The skin in question is one of Starley Thereian's. It was sold in Starley's store (Celestial Studios) until through an exploit it was released with full permissions -- so she made it a freebie.

This person should not be selling this skin.


THANK YOU! Just checking.
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Merlyn Bailly
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06-29-2006 18:43
From: Io Zeno
I gave the link, btw, not to bolster Merlyn's position, but to give the evidence, because this person, who is named, is innocent until proven guilty. She may just have a gift for skins, who knows.


I don't HAVE A POSITION, dear. I just wondered about the damn skin because the person has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD in his/her/its SLX catalog. Look at the rest of the damn junk listed, you self-important, pompous ***.
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Six Kennedy
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06-29-2006 19:08
From: Merlyn Bailly
I don't HAVE A POSITION, dear. I just wondered about the damn skin because the person has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD in his/her/its SLX catalog. Look at the rest of the damn junk listed, you self-important, pompous ***.


You call someones stuff junk.. then call someone ELSE pompous in the same breath *shrug*.

You saw something questionable, I can understand the posting it here to see if someone more knowledgable on skins can actually verify your accusations.. but its in the way you go about .. you called this person out by name on the forums without first even having your suspicions validated by anyone , thats not really at all being fair.
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06-29-2006 20:17
From: Merlyn Bailly
I don't HAVE A POSITION, dear. I just wondered about the damn skin because the person has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD in his/her/its SLX catalog. Look at the rest of the damn junk listed, you self-important, pompous ***.


You always have a position... arguable


:O)
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Summer Carmichael
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06-29-2006 20:27
From: Merlyn Bailly
So? WTF does that mean?


I believe you fucking meant well for being such a fucking retard about what the forum posting rules are.
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Aodhan McDunnough
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06-29-2006 20:48
@Merlyn

The issue right now is not just the infrigement. There is also the matter of how you handled the case.

It's not good to defame anyone more especially since at the time you posted the evidence was not yet confirmed. A good way of presenting the case could go like this:

"I spotted an asian skin for sale that I believe is being used without the creator's permission. It is being sold as part of an avatar. I found it here <supply link>. I am suspicious because other items within the same catalog are of poorer quality relative to this product. Can someone investigate?"

It's not a matter of what was said, but how it's said. The example I present above makes no pronouncemnets and is merely a request for investigation.
Io Zeno
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06-29-2006 21:40
From: Merlyn Bailly
I don't HAVE A POSITION, dear. I just wondered about the damn skin because the person has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD in his/her/its SLX catalog. Look at the rest of the damn junk listed, you self-important, pompous ***.


Someone load up the tranquilizer gun!

I didn't realize giving someone a fair chance, when publically accused... or shall we say, have it strongly implied, that their work is stolen based on nothing more than your say-so, was "pompous".

But I'll take that over cantankerous twat, any damn day.
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Richie Waves
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06-29-2006 23:00
This thread is being locked pending a Linden review..



just sayin :p
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nimrod Yaffle
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06-29-2006 23:22
Wow.... how can some people get so out of control?
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06-29-2006 23:29
From: Summer Carmichael
I believe you *** meant well for being such a *** *** about what the forum posting rules are.


I feel obliged to point out that if you are over 12 and under 18 you belong at:

teen.secondlife.com

Thank you and have a nice day.
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06-29-2006 23:54
From: katykiwi Moonflower
I really find this post to be incredibly offensive to say nothing about violating the TOS. You have absolutley no reason to even think this is a stolen skin other than you THINK the quality surpasses other items made by this member. Really, how dare you act so inconsiderately.

Every single content creator in SL had a learning curve. I have been here for a long time and have watched the progression of texturing skills for many content creators. Who is to say that this member has not improved with practice?

In addition, did you know you can buy premade skins ALL OVER THE NET? Ones made by advanced graphic designers and there are programs that stretch the skins to fit onto an SL avatar template.

You owe this member a big apology for your horrible behavior as well as a TOS violation sanction from LL. Even if this skin was made by another member the way you accused without knowing is totally inappropriate.

I very much agree with Katikiwi.

coco
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