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Is there currently some kind of permissions exploit out there?

Candide LeMay
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02-19-2006 17:12
There's at least one permissions bug related to editing attached objects - so don't set permissions on attached objects, always rez it inworld instead and take back into inventory.
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Creami Cannoli
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02-19-2006 17:25
Maybe they bought so many items to give out as freebies to new people? It's just a thought.
Aliasi Stonebender
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02-19-2006 18:05
From: LykaObscure Diamond
Just before the last update I was messing around rezzing a cuddle couch by reveire(sp) and as I rezzed it and attempted to move it, It copied itself so I had 2 of them on my floor (I watched as it duplicated as if I was duplicating a prim) but only bought one.

I thought it was just a fluke as it also crashed me immedietly, When I returned from the upgrade I figured it would be gone but to my suprise I still have both said couches the one I bought and the one that copied. I have no idea how it happened and have not even tried to repeat the actions. *shrugs*


I've had something similar occur due to lag - a donation pot/tip jar somehow got "rezzed twice".
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Huns Valen
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02-19-2006 18:10
Christiano, maybe these people are club owners, and they bought your dances to put into dance machines. That would explain the unusual act of buying all of them, and still be legit. Idunno!
Alexander Bard
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02-19-2006 18:51
From: Zapoteth Zaius
Boast much? :p

Either way, not me, furniture permissions are set up the same way (altho exploits would probably be different) my sales have stayed the same or gone down a little even..


Zapoteth, while I didn't buy 10k worth of these (sorry), I do highly value the one I have now. It was exactly what I've been looking for - a great place to showcase and protect my valueable collection of mini-prims.
(You break them you bought them.)

:)

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Argent Stonecutter
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02-19-2006 18:52
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Maybe it was just some folks that came into money, or maybe somebody has produced a HUD controller that makes it real easy to use a whole lot of animations.
I've seen at least two, one that uses colored dots and one that uses something like XYText.
Argent Stonecutter
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02-19-2006 18:56
From: Aliasi Stonebender
Indeed, they already have, as the flap about the cracked client with "god mode" access to scripts and such revealed.
Why would protected scripts ever be downloaded to the client? They're run on the server, they live on the server... if there's anything that should be safe from client exploits on SL it's scripts.
Aliasi Stonebender
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02-19-2006 18:57
From: Huns Valen
Christiano, maybe these people are club owners, and they bought your dances to put into dance machines. That would explain the unusual act of buying all of them, and still be legit. Idunno!


I've had some similar things happen with some club-oriented things I sell. I sell a no copy/transfer version, and a copy/no transfer version for five times as much. I'll have people buy both versions, even though they're exactly the same in regard to functionality (and can easily be used for a party other than the purchaser via notecard configuration).
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Susie Boffin
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02-19-2006 19:41
Strange that you should ask that because recently a few clothing items in my inventory have all of a sudden got full permissions when they didn't have them before. Probably no relation though.

If anyone finds anything that I have created is suddenly full permission go for it! I would be flattered if you give them out. :)
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Einsman Schlegel
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02-19-2006 19:59
This gets my official drama stamp approval!
Keiki Lemieux
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02-19-2006 20:26
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
or maybe somebody has produced a HUD controller that makes it real easy to use a whole lot of animations.
Maybe a HUDDLES?
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Enabran Templar
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02-19-2006 20:33
From: Keiki Lemieux
Maybe a HUDDLES?


I really hope that's true. I'd love to see that level of economic inter-relation developing.
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Huns Valen
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02-19-2006 23:23
From: Argent Stonecutter
Why would protected scripts ever be downloaded to the client? They're run on the server, they live on the server... if there's anything that should be safe from client exploits on SL it's scripts.

That is exactly what happened. Someone at LL made a mistake.
Kathmandu Gilman
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02-20-2006 04:34
I had a guy come in and buy like 20 of my fire extinguishers once. I was suspicious so I grabbed his name and found he had some land so I went there and found he had build an aircraft hanger and there were my extingiushers everywhere just like you would find in an real aircraft hanger.

Of course it has little to do with a new exploit but sometimes it is for a legitamate reason.
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02-20-2006 06:11
From: Susie Boffin
Strange that you should ask that because recently a few clothing items in my inventory have all of a sudden got full permissions when they didn't have them before. Probably no relation though.

If anyone finds anything that I have created is suddenly full permission go for it! I would be flattered if you give them out. :)



Hmmm, I had the scripts in my vendors in inventory go full perms recently - luckily I noticed before distributing any of them. I now check carefully daily!
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Memir Quinn
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02-20-2006 06:40
I've in the past few weeks also noticed at least one of our vehicles go full perms as well, but that seems to just be a hiccup in SL that happens from time to time, not any new exploit. I'd be curious to hear the explanation of Christiano's customer if/when he asks though.

Oh an Argent, it did happen. One of the scripts exploited oddly enough was a freebie already, not any less hurtful/troublesome to my s.o. whose script it was but odd they'd have chosen a freebie amoungst those exploited in the first place.
Demian Caldera
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02-20-2006 10:11
From: Starax Statosky
The only one I know of is IMing the creator and tricking them into enabling modify and copy with offers of hot sex. I've been tricked by Bub Linden on several occasions.


As if it's not enough that you keep me from seriously working because I keep playing with your friggin awesome wand.....nooo, now my keyboard is acting weird because it's soaked in cafe au lait! D*&A$#M^%N YOU&;(%, man! :D
Jarod Godel
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02-20-2006 11:46
From: Cristiano Midnight
...so I am not sure what is going on.
And if certain Midnights have their way, you never will. :rolleyes:

This, Christiano, is why we hackers pick things apart and broadcast exploits to the public: so you'll know what's going on. I know exactly what's happening, I've even told my friends about it (per people's demands these things stay secret), but that's as far as I'll take it. That's as far as it needs to go. If you haven't heard about the answer, you obviously know the wrong people.
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Belaya Statosky
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02-20-2006 12:20
From: Jarod Godel
And if certain Midnights have their way, you never will. :rolleyes:

This, Christiano, is why we hackers pick things apart and broadcast exploits to the public: so you'll know what's going on. I know exactly what's happening, I've even told my friends about it (per people's demands these things stay secret), but that's as far as I'll take it. That's as far as it needs to go. If you haven't heard about the answer, you obviously know the wrong people.


First person to call you out on your silly posturing bluff.
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Zonax Delorean
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02-20-2006 12:23
From: Kathmandu Gilman
I had a guy come in and buy like 20 of my fire extinguishers once. I was suspicious


Suspicious? Hey, didn't you even think of the possibility of a... BIG BIG FIRE? :-)
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Khamon Fate
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02-20-2006 12:45
From: Belaya Statosky
First person to call you out on your silly posturing bluff.
After the discussion in this thread, which loosely points back to a locked thread in which Jarod was roasted for describing GLIntercept, I doubt he'll be forthcoming with any more publicly useful exploit data. His discoveries and warnings are now reserved for a few select individuals that he can trust to not abuse report him to LL for his efforts.

I'm shocked that this thread is still open after Belaya so clearly stated "If anyone wanted to sit there with SoftICE or tear it apart with IDA Pro or sniff traffic, etc, etc,"

How does that silly phrase go? Oh yes, gee thanks for letting those cats out of the bag111 You can expect a warning from [email]support@lindenlab.com[/email] for broadcasting to the general public the necessary tools for taking apart the Windows version of the client and exploiting it's security weaknesses.
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Belaya Statosky
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02-20-2006 12:52
From: Khamon Fate
After the discussion in this thread, which loosely points back to a locked thread in which Jarod was roasted for describing GLIntercept, I doubt he'll be forthcoming with any more publicly useful exploit data. His discoveries and warnings are now reserved for a few select individuals that he can trust to not abuse report him to LL for his efforts.

I'm shocked that this thread is still open after Belaya so clearly stated "If anyone wanted to sit there with SoftICE or tear it apart with IDA Pro or sniff traffic, etc, etc,"

How does that silly phrase go? Oh yes, gee thanks for letting those cats out of the bag111 You can expect a warning from [email]support@lindenlab.com[/email] for broadcasting to the general public the necessary tools for taking apart the Windows version of the client and exploiting it's security weaknesses.


Anyone who has any sort of technical skill required to use SoftICE or IDA Pro or anything, which includes knowing comprehensive X86 assembly skills, knows the existence of those tools since they're actually legit development tools for debugging running applications.

Jarod mentioning in a thread something that has been a known program that has existed for longer than SL in various forms that any idiot can download and use is another story. If he happens to know something involving the permissions system, something that can actually be fixed unlike the one he chose to jump up and down after it's been a problem for a while.. then maybe he should open his mouth and it'll be fixed. But no, he's posturing and he doesn't know a thing on the subject.

Nor, apparently, do you, if you think mentioning those tools is letting any sort of cat out of the bag.
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Cristiano Midnight
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02-20-2006 12:57
From: Jarod Godel
And if certain Midnights have their way, you never will. :rolleyes:

This, Christiano, is why we hackers pick things apart and broadcast exploits to the public: so you'll know what's going on. I know exactly what's happening, I've even told my friends about it (per people's demands these things stay secret), but that's as far as I'll take it. That's as far as it needs to go. If you haven't heard about the answer, you obviously know the wrong people.


I'm not sure which Midnight you are referring to, it certainly isn't me. I have always supported your protests and revelations of flaws in SL, up to the Open GL issue. The main reason I criticized you for it is that it is not some flaw on LL's part that is causing that problem, and their is very little they can do to protect against it, if anything. Your spreading the details wasn't doing anyone a service except informing even more people how they can steal, under the guise of "letting designers know this is going on". So now you can sit smugly in your knowledge that you know about another exploit, that's fine - i would rather you did that than to just broadcast it to be malicious.
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Cubey Terra
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02-20-2006 12:58
From: Belaya Statosky
... if you think mentioning those tools is letting any sort of cat out of the bag.


I think it's a small, geeky sort of cat. With glasses. :)
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02-20-2006 12:59
From: Cubey Terra
I think it's a small, geeky sort of cat. With glasses. :)


/me stuffs the cat back into the bag, narrowly avoiding serious laceration.
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