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Jauani Wu
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06-12-2006 17:28
zomg! teenagers are having sex
:rolleyes:

while we're at it, maybe we should have LL shut down mtv, hollywood, and under the bleachers.
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Joy Honey
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06-12-2006 17:29
Does this mean there are going to be virtual teen abortions? Will we see an upswing in virtual shotgun weddings? This needs a poll!!
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Einsman Schlegel
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06-12-2006 18:04
From: Jauani Wu
zomg! teenagers are having sex
:rolleyes:

while we're at it, maybe we should have LL shut down mtv, hollywood, and under the bleachers.


Teenagers having sex is one thing, teens having sex with adults is another.
Jauani Wu
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06-12-2006 18:42
From: Einsman Schlegel
Teenagers having sex is one thing, teens having sex with adults is another.


:confused:

this forum is about SL
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Marcus Moreau
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06-12-2006 18:44
From: Jauani Wu
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this forum is about SL


And SL is about sex. It all ties together.

MM
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Phoenix Psaltery
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06-12-2006 18:48
"Romeo And Juliet" should be banned. Like, totally.

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Rose Bradley
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06-12-2006 18:58
From: Phoenix Psaltery
"Romeo And Juliet" should be banned. Like, totally.

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Read the play, they didn't have sex.
Einsman Schlegel
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06-12-2006 18:59
*waves to the alts* HI!
Nicola Escher
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06-12-2006 20:16
From: Rose Bradley
Read the play, they didn't have sex.


While the titular characters may not have consumated on stage, the play is pretty much about sex with a bit of death thrown in at the end. The Nurse has only one thing on her mind. There are constant puns and double entendre's in typical fashion about sex. Act III, Sc. 2 Juliet has a nice reversal and decides she is ready to "get it on" with Romeo (she's a bit timid regarding sex early on). Sex -- and in this case -- teenage sex, is certainly a large part of the play, hence Phoenix's comment being perfectly in-stride with the conversation.

Kansas doesn't have a "Romeo and Juliet" Law for nothing...
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Derrick Cannoli
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06-12-2006 20:24
Ok lets put this into perspective. In the days of Shakespeare people were living to what 40 -50 max? Daughters were often married off at 16.....Times have changed...the sexual aspect of Romeo and Juliet isnt really relevent.
Rose Bradley
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06-12-2006 20:34
From: Einsman Schlegel
Teenagers having sex is one thing, teens having sex with adults is another.


Thank you!
Lordfly Digeridoo
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06-12-2006 20:40
From: Derrick Cannoli
Ok lets put this into perspective. In the days of Shakespeare people were living to what 40 -50 max? Daughters were often married off at 16.....Times have changed...the sexual aspect of Romeo and Juliet isnt really relevent.


The times have changed?

So, what, teens don't have sex nowadays like they used to?

Besides, back in the day, they were being married off to old men -- 30, 40 years old. Hardly an equal marriage.
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Derrick Cannoli
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06-12-2006 20:47
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
The times have changed?

So, what, teens don't have sex nowadays like they used to?

Besides, back in the day, they were being married off to old men -- 30, 40 years old. Hardly an equal marriage.


I think you misunderstood my response. Around 16 at that time was considered an adult, and marrying off a 16 year old girl wasnt even given a 2nd look. The times have changed in what age is considered an adult.
Nicola Escher
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06-12-2006 21:23
From: Derrick Cannoli
...the sexual aspect of Romeo and Juliet isnt really relevent.

It's relevant given Phoenix's comment which facetiously implied that Romeo and Juliet should be banned because it carries themes of (teenage) sexuality. It's relevant in the context of contemporary society -- we weren't talking about whether it was relevant in Elizabethan times.
From: Derrick Cannoli
Around 16 at that time was considered an adult, and marrying off a 16 year old girl wasnt even given a 2nd look. The times have changed in what age is considered an adult.

While the second part of your statement is certainly true, I think you need to do a bit more research on R&J and the context in which it was written. Shakespeare deliberately makes Juliet an age (13) considered too young for marriage, even in those days. The reason is not totally clear:
From: Too Soon Marr'd": Juliet's Age as Symbol in 'Romeo and Juliet.'. Contributors: J. Karl Franson - author. Journal Title: Papers on Language & Literature. Volume: 32. Issue: 3. Publication Year: 1996.

The tender age of Juliet Capulet provides the focus of the initial conversation between Lord Capulet and Count Paris in Romeo and Juliet. She is still a child, says her father, "a straunger in the world" who "hath not seene the chaunge of fourteen yeares"; she should be at least 16, he says, before she will be ready for marriage.(1) In Shakespeare's primary source, a long narrative poem by Brooke, she is 16 (or nearly so), and in another English version he might have known, the translation of a novella by Bandello, she is almost 18, yet in both accounts she is still considered too young for marriage.(2) A very young Juliet, therefore, appears to have been Shakespeare's idea. Is it to emphasize the "charm of her girlish directness, the pathos of her passion," to amplify the drama of her progress from innocence to suicide, or merely to "apologize to the audience for the boy who played so difficult a part"?(3) As for Romeo's age, Shakespeare makes him merely a "yong" man (E3; 2.4.119), whereas Brooke describes him as so young his "tender chyn" sports no beard (54), thus perhaps 15-17, and Bandello gives his age as 20 or 21 (349).

From: Ibid.

Popular manuals of health, as well as observations of married life, led Elizabethans to believe that early marriage and its consummation permanently damaged a young woman's health, Impaired a young man's physical and mental development, and produced sickly or stunted children.

The general view was that motherhood before 16 was dangerous (Stone, Crisis 656-57); as a consequence, 18 came to be considered the earliest reasonable age for motherhood (Camden 94) and 20 and 30 the ideal ages for women and men, respectively, to marry (Cook 23).

In actuality, however, Elizabethan women married even later, at an average age of 25-26, and men at 27-29, the oldest of any society known.(5) Shakespeare's wife and eldest daughter Susanna are typical, marrying at about 26 and 24, while his youngest, Judith, did not marry until 31. That Capulet would offer his daughter to Paris despite her "extreme youth," thus forcing Juliet to marry Romeo secretly, must have been appalling to an Elizabethan. One historian even wonders whether Shakespeare was deliberately writing a play about the dangers of love and marriage among boys and girls.(6) The playwright's own unsatisfactory marriage at 18 may have initiated him to some of the unpleasant consequences of premature marriage.
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Sansarya Caligari
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06-12-2006 22:09
/wonders about the prim baby market on the teen grid ...

anyone got any snapzilla shots of the prim babies on the teen grid yet? Any indignant teens complaining they didn't get their babies in time? Any baby makers from AG complaining someone stole their IP rights to prim babies? This thread could be sooo much more fun with any one of those things happening ;)
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06-12-2006 22:30
From: Derrick Cannoli
I think you misunderstood my response. Around 16 at that time was considered an adult, and marrying off a 16 year old girl wasnt even given a 2nd look. The times have changed in what age is considered an adult.


This is true. Hardly anyone under the age of 30 is really an adult these days.
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Nolan Nash
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06-12-2006 22:30
Prim babies, teen sex and Shakespeare. Only in SL. Fifteen-hundred and ninety-four, meet two-thousand and sex..
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-13-2006 02:41
From: Derrick Cannoli
I think you misunderstood my response. Around 16 at that time was considered an adult, and marrying off a 16 year old girl wasnt even given a 2nd look. The times have changed in what age is considered an adult.


The age of consent remains 16 in Great Britain and in much of Europe.
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Kyevan Thurston
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06-13-2006 05:33
From: Marcus Moreau
And SL is about sex. It all ties together.

MM

Bull. That's ONE thing that can be done, and unfortunatly, a common one, but that's not the ONLY thing. Perhaps you haven't seen the (at my estimate) 50ish % of the grid that ISN'T porn?
Kyevan Thurston
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06-13-2006 05:52
From: Nolan Nash
Prim babies, teen sex and Shakespeare. Only in SL. Fifteen-hundred and ninety-four, meet two-thousand and sex..

That's only going to work for a year - love it while you can :)
Jauani Wu
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06-13-2006 10:14
teenagers can have about as much sex playing SL as they can playing barbie dolls.
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Nicola Escher
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06-13-2006 10:31
Ha! I thought "barnie dolls" was funnier, Wu... :p
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Surreal Farber
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06-13-2006 10:34
From: Jauani Wu
teenagers can have about as much sex playing SL as they can playing barbie dolls.


Well my Barbie got sold to an Arabian brothel when I was around 8. A case of reading 1001 Nights in the uncut version.
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Crissaegrim Clutterbuck
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06-13-2006 11:37
From: Rose Bradley
Read the play, they didn't have sex.


Sure they did. In the same way there's sex in SL - virtual, mutual, and in the mind. Which is to say, you're right - they didn't. ;)
Crissaegrim Clutterbuck
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06-13-2006 11:38
From: Selador Cellardoor
The age of consent remains 16 in Great Britain and in much of Europe.


Ah. That explains your problems. Here in the States we're seriously considering raising the age of consent to 65.
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