Grid Merge Eminent?

So, from rumors and other sources I've been able to speculatvly deduce that the Teen Grid and Main Grid will be merging sometime in the future.
If they do, teens won't be able to access Mature sims and LR will probably put in a feature where parents can block their children from interacting with non-teens.
So, what do you think of this?
Discuss!

For a start, LL would have to seperate PG and Mature sims across the whole grid; if an avatar has access to sim A, but not sim B, he/she can still access sim B if Sim A and B are attached. That being the case, you would have a continent of PG sims, and a continent of Mature sims. ie teen and adult grids as we have now.

PS what are your sources?

I think it would be impossible to implement without wiping the main grid and starting over again. The Mature and PG areas are too intermixed.

Actually, sim owners in the TG can set their rating to Mature. However, when they do this, they are frozen and unable to access their sim.
Sources: people in #libsl on EFnet, the Robin Linden "carding" post in Answers, and hear-say.

(a) imminent, not eminent

(b) I don't know where you got this from but I think, with all due respect, that your sources are... unreliable.

a) I fail at spelling, sorry
b) Yeah, they are, so take it with a grain of salt. I personaly would love to see a grid merge.

What ever the terminology used, the fact still remains that there would have to be two levels or access: one for adults & one for minors. This would essentially result in the creation of two seperate grids, which is what we have now.

There would be two diffrent *ACCOUNT* access levels, one Teen and one Adult. It could be as simple as a flag in the character database. MG users could choose not to see TG residents, parents could choose for their children not to see MG residents.
I'm talking an overlay of land and builds. It'd be a technical feat, and access controls would have to be revamped.

I know this sounds weird, but I'd rather see a single grid.

Why? First off, the current access system isn't working. LL is not authenticating teens at all, so what's the point of putting them on the TG? We've already heard numerous complaints about the TG, and how it's something of a ghetto compared to the MG.

The dichotomy between PG and M on the main grid always confused me, to be honest. You're not allowed to engage in ANY "adult" activities in PG sims, even in private. This seems a little odd for a place that's full of adults.

But if we had all the users on the same grid, and blocked teen accounts from entering (or even viewing content on) mature sims, then we'd have essentially the same system we have now... except:

1. Teens could see some of the best of what SL has to offer
2. PG property values would rise a little, since there'd actually be a POINT to having PG land (teens could buy your stuff)

Quite frankly, I've never understood the idea of not letting adults on the TG: after all, a kid can easily sign up for MSN Messenger and chat with anyone on the Internet. Other than the whole "OMG PEDOPHILES" thing, there's absolutely NO reason to block interaction between adults and minors.

And quite frankly, I can't believe that kids are STILL falling for the same old traps. Come on, what happened to parental responsibility? Individual responsibility? If a kid walked in front of a moving car, you dont' blame the driver - you blame the kid who was too dumb to realize that a car driving down the road at 40 miles an hour might HURT.

I always figured that all the teens abandoned the teen grid for the adult grid once the open enrollment started up.

I guess I don't see the programming difficulty... People restricted from Mature regions would only see PG sims when they opened the map, they wouldn't come back when typed in for a search, and for PG/Mature borders a wall to a void would be displayed. The programming would be no different than standalone islands today, an wall of rendered water or some other generic area, that couldn't be passed through, and searches would return nothing as they do if you try to access an island that is access restricted.

I heartily recommend PG sims, as they mean you can build on the mainland without having people put up porn spam next to you.

A merge would be good for this reason: keep the TG alive in the face of a non-verification MG.

The exact reason why I chose PG for my first land. I don't like waking up to a 360 degree vista filled with the letter X in multiples of three.


On the merging of grids, I'd been mentioning that for some time now and others may have mentioned it even earlier.

And while we're on the subject, you all might as well see how things have been progressing on the ideas front:

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Most important are the first two links included in the post. I'm still waiting for a reply to the above post.

It was Robin Linden's reply to Hypatia Callisto that seals it. Non-verification is here to stay. Age-verification tools will be fully in the hands of the residents. A repercussion of that will be that the Teen Grid will either disappear or will annex.

(Note: Aodhan is one of my sources for this idea )

I'd love to be on a PG sim, sadly the biggest laggers - ie clubs/casinos are allowed on PG and i dont really see the logic of no nudity allowed but gambling allowed.

Is gambling allowed on the teen grid?

I don't think so.
The ability to declare certain parcels and objects "mature" would also be handy, so that said objects just don't render.

I generally avoid PG, don't need the thought police banning me over language.

I'm a bit curious now. What are the origins of PG sims?
When and why why were they added?

Venturing a guess here. They're for people like me who don't want to be exposed to mature material 24/7. I truly am enjoying the view from my place ... no XXX signs.

From what I can tell PG and Mature have existed from the beginning. Da Boom being the first region, its neighbor Kapor is PG.

The problem with PG is I'm far too old to curb my language according to the norms of a bad Hollywood ratings system.

I would be 150% against this, most of the newbie players who greifer are just under age kids that are 10-16 with no real life and they get joy from pissing othes off

yeah but LL can't have sat around a table and thought, hmm one day SL will be flooded with porn and gambling, lets make some sims where porn isnt allowed.

I'm just curious as to why they even came up with the idea - did they plan on having teens and adults on the same grid? Why else call it PG if its an all adult grid? Adults wouldn't need parental guidance would they?

I imagine that, in the beginning, mature sims cost more to get into.. required an additional subscription.. .something like that. I base the idea from older maps of the grid when it had like, 10 sims... and the mature one's had $-signs over them and were shaded in green.

As for the TG/MG merge potential... I think the sole point of the TG is to keep adults away from the teens (not keeping teens away from the adults). So, if the grids were merged... LL would still need to separate adults from teens somehow, not allowing adults the option to knowingly interact with the teens. And without interaction (no ability to directly contact via built-in communications and no ability to transfer content), there would still be separate 'grids' (in the sense of a preview grid and MG appearing to operate on the same sims.)

Of course it's a ghetto. There are TEENS there!