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Looking to interview African-American players

Aimee Weber
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05-05-2006 09:38
From: Starax Statosky
I have an african-american-african-english gerbil.


I'm annoyed at how the African-american-african-english gerbils are taking all our jobs. :mad:
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05-05-2006 09:39
From: Cottonteil Muromachi
There are actually quite a few of them around. Problem is, not many of them are interested in the forums here since most of those I've talked to think that its full of white BS. You'd have better luck wandering about inworld tho.


From: Starax Statosky
Perhaps we could try to trap one?


I find your post completely un called for and very offensive. You are saying here to "trap" a black person or "african american" like some sort of animal or something. What would give you the right to do such a thing, and furthermore what power would you or anyone else here have that would enable you to "trap" a human being, especially one of a particular race?

I think that the NAACP would love to see some of the trash that is allowed in these forums.

I am reporting this post and thread to LL and the resmods.
Ingrid Ingersoll
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05-05-2006 09:44
From: Sabrina Blabbermouth


I think that the NAACP would love to see some of the trash that is allowed in these forums.



"not many of them are interested in the forums here since most of those I've talked to think that its full of white BS."

I do hope you report that as well. very offensive indeed.
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Demian Caldera
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05-05-2006 09:46
From: Starax Statosky
I have an african-american-african-english gerbil.
Anybody got any questions for him?


Yea, what does he eat for lunch?
Starax Statosky
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05-05-2006 09:48
From: Demian Caldera
Yea, what does he eat for lunch?


He eats the same as all the other gerbils! You racist pig!!
Jennyfur Peregrine
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05-05-2006 09:49
From: antipathy Rebel
Nonsense to you, maybe, but not to others.

Perhaps I am looking for the experiences of people who are of African descent and American?

Regardless, I am not looking to get into an argument about terminology with you.


Welcome to the Forums Antipathy, a place where just about anything and everything can and will be argued for the sake of argument :D

Good luck on your research!

Regards,
Jennyfur
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Starax Statosky
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05-05-2006 09:52
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
Welcome to the Forums Antipathy, a place where just about anything and everything can and will be argued for the sake of argument :D

Good luck on your research!

Regards,
Jennyfuer


You mispelt your name, Jennyfuer!!

We're not going to take your post seriously if you can't even spell your own name correctly!
Jonas Pierterson
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05-05-2006 09:55
To those who get offended when I call them 'black' and ask me to call them African American, I make sure they call me European American. Then show them a picture of my third generation African American and explain how his grandmother immigrated (legally) from South Africa.
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Demian Caldera
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05-05-2006 09:56
From: Starax Statosky
LOL You freaking lunatics!


Hahahaha...look who's talking! :D


From: Starax Statosky
CHILL!!!


You're kidding, right? The general forum is not for chilling... it is for bitching and whining and hair pulling and other useless stuff! Git with the program, man, and shove your humor! ;)
Cristiano Midnight
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05-05-2006 09:56
I knew as soon as I saw the thread title, and then saw that Starax had posted in the thread, that it would go straight to hell.
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Jennyfur Peregrine
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05-05-2006 09:56
From: Gwenn Grainger
I find this confusing...

All African-Americans are black. But not all Blacks are African-American. Is it your position that you aren't responding because you are black but not of American nationality?


The hyphenated American thing gets confusing sometimes. A few years back I was writing a paper on Chris Ofili a Nigerian-born British artist. I had to keep reminding myself not to refer to him as African-American because he was not American and African British doesn't quite sound appropriate either. It wouldn't have been an issue if race didn't play such a prominent role in his work and how his work was received and the controversies that ensued.
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Jennyfur Peregrine
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05-05-2006 10:02
From: Starax Statosky
You mispelt your name, Jennyfuer!!

We're not going to take your post seriously if you can't even spell your own name correctly!


piffle. its my stupid ergonomic keyboard at work. I like it, but my fingers often don't hit the right letters.

~goes back to change post~
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Demian Caldera
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05-05-2006 10:03
From: Starax Statosky
He eats the same as all the other gerbils! You racist pig!!


Man, all I wanted to know is what your gerbil is eating! My caucasian gerbil hates hotdogs and loves couscous. (So do I btw) :D
Demian Caldera
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05-05-2006 10:15
From: Jonas Pierterson
To those who get offended when I call them 'black' and ask me to call them African American, I make sure they call me European American.


Both parties would be shit outta luck with me then! I refuse to call people African American or European American or whatever. I call you all HUMANS.... I'm so sick of all this political correctness when it comes to race! I don't give a shit what color you are...you're a human in the first place.

I'm white by default, but I was even whiter after a friend dumped a bag of flour over my head. I'm was yellow after kids tried their finger paint on me. I was black after shoveling a ton of coal into my grandma's cellar as a kid. I turned friggin red when I was caught in the hay with my first girlfriend. I turn green often when reading this forum..shortly before I leave to puke my guts out! I tell ya, we all are just rainbows..... :D
Selador Cellardoor
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05-05-2006 10:32
From: Jonas Pierterson
To those who get offended when I call them 'black' and ask me to call them African American, I make sure they call me European American. Then show them a picture of my third generation African American and explain how his grandmother immigrated (legally) from South Africa.


Well, I find that I very rarely have to refer to the skin colour of people I know in real life. Do you often have to refer to these people as 'black', and in what context? How many of them exactly have been offended, and have asked you to use the PC term?

And I have to say, if you behave in such a bizarre way towards them, I am surprised they talk to you at all.

Actually, I suspect this is all made up.
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Brace Coral
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05-05-2006 11:44
Yall are kidding me right?

:eek:


I can't even COMMENT cept for:


huggs for Flip ~ ty darlin I AM so beautiful, yess I am :D

(Sents PM to OP)

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Cristiano Midnight
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05-05-2006 11:47
* whistles at Brace *
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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 11:53
From: Warda Kawabata
Here's my off-the-shelf reasoning:

- The default avatars you are started with are all white, or at the darkest, Mexican-American. No blacks. This makes choosing a black skinned avatar a conscious decision rather than a default go-with-the-flow decision.

- There aren't any truly 'black' avatars on sale. The upmarket skin retailers in SL do a variety of skin tones, but none of them I've seen can really be described as truly black ethnicity.

- The SL engine doesn't really allow for avatar skin to be shiny. Shininess is one of the more noticeable aspects of darker (and oily) skin, and the darker the skin, the more noticeable this is. Since the engine allows for no shininess at all, the engine can't really render a dark skin tone anywhere near as realistically as a pale tone.

Anyway, I would respond to your survey, but you've made it clear you're after African-Americans specifically, and not blacks generally.


Thanks for your input, Warda. I have thought some similar things myself, particularly that the "default" player is white.

Would you be okay if I used your insights? If you'd like credit, I will be sure to do that. :)
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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 11:56
From: Eggy Lippmann
- Well, this is news to me, last I looked there were two black avatars, male and female, in the default set of newbies made by Ryan Linden.


Is there a way for a non-newbie to check this? I'm picturing going into to edit my av and just seeing what I look like now, not the default...
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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 12:01
From: Kevin Kuhr
For what it's worth, not all blacks are of African descent. For example, the native population of Austraila is black.


Some may argue that we're all of African descent! :D But *socially*...I see your point.

Do native blacks in Australia identify with the term "Aboriginal"? Or is there another term that some use? (This doesn't have anything to do with my research, I'm just curious!)
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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 12:05
From: Musuko Massiel
"All African-Americans are black."

Not all Africans are black. Therefore, it follows that not all African-Americans are black.

Musuko.



Haha..this is true. Charlize Theron is an African-American! :D

I should have been more specific to say African-Americans with black skin. I have since edited my initial text to clarify that. :)
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April Firefly
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05-05-2006 12:08
From: PetGirl Bergman
I have been in SL for more than one year.. flying around a lot... meeting many avas.. (persons humans)

Plus many animals.. and ONE very short green man.. in a KILT!

I have ONLY seen ONE black skinned ava,.,, BUT I have not seen any ”yellow” or ”brown” or...

Wonder why....

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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 12:09
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Perhaps people should be given a better choice than "Male" or "Female" at the start - maybe a screen with a panel of 20 choices would be more a more appropriate starting point? Besides, I'm getting really sick of seeing those hideous jeans with flip-flops that show the avatar's most hideous attritbute: the feet.

I've always been curious as to how people choose their avatars.
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Needless to say, I'll be interested to see your research when its done, Antipathy! :)

Regards,

-Flip


Hey, Flip :)

Yes, that might be a better idea: first choosing gender -- or maybe even species! hahaha

As we discussed, I was also interested in why some people chose the avatars they did -- particularly black players who chose to be white. It wasn't the idea of someone chosing to look like another ethnicity/race, but it was the context and how that may relate to our culture.

I'll let you know what I find out. Maybe we can chat while I fry you up another veggie burger! :D
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Jonas Pierterson
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05-05-2006 12:10
Its not made up, and they understood my thinking exactly when I explained it:)

The first time it came up when I said something about black history month in high school, something like 'I'm not black, I'm African American.'

It was more of a smartass answer then..but since then I have seen how it makes complete sense to link to the continent that your ancestors came from. So don't call me 'white' unless you don't mind me calling you 'black.'
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antipathy Rebel
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05-05-2006 12:13
From: Cottonteil Muromachi
There are actually quite a few of them around. Problem is, not many of them are interested in the forums here since most of those I've talked to think that its full of white BS.


I considered that possibility! hahaha
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