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Christianity in Second Life. Why was the thread moved?

Ty McCoy
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04-24-2006 21:28
My thread was directly related to Second Life and the faith of those who participate. Very on topic.

Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?
Ananda Jezebel
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04-24-2006 21:30
Because it stopped being a thread about SL and became (predictably) a dogmafest.
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04-24-2006 21:48
From: Ty McCoy
My thread was directly related to Second Life and the faith of those who participate. Very on topic.

Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?


Did you even read the thread after you posted it? It turned into a 300-response dramabomb.
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Selene Gregoire
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04-24-2006 22:12
Ty, since the thread was moved and you probably don't have the time or desire to wade through all of the posts that have been made on it since you were last here (which is understandable) I'm going to quote my own post here for you. I do hope it helps in some way.



From: Selene Gregoire
Ty, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that line. From what you have said here you are one of those (however many or few they may be) that actually believes in and practices what Christianity is supposed to be about, or at least as close to it as you can get. Just keep on doing what you have been doing and let the rest fall where it may.

I wrote something a few years ago in response to being attacked for my beliefs by some who claimed to be Christian. It was not meant as an attack on Christianity or to offend, so please do not view it as such. I am "reprinting" it here in the hope that you can use at least part of it in any replies you may make to those who attack you for your beliefs.


This is what I wrote:

I am who I am and what I am. I walk my own path and I walk it alone. No one can walk it for me. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations nor are you in this world to live up to mine. I am at peace with our Grandfather, the Creator. You say you have the truth and the only way. Your truths are not the same as mine. Your path is not my path. You say that I will never know the love of God and will always suffer from separation from God. I say the Creator loves us all and He has always been with me. You say what you believe is not man made but of the one true God. I say the Creator made all things and all things are of the one true God. I am who I am and what I am. I walk my own path and I walk it alone. No one can walk it for me.
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04-24-2006 22:33
My Opinion:
I know your original post was SL related, but the above posters are right, it did turn into this huge dramafest which I am glad to see moved to off-topic.

I personally don't enjoy reading pages upon pages of anti-Christian talk, and it's easier to avoid when it is in off-topic.

By the same token, though, it seems that Lordfly Digeridoo's thread, entitled, "Why Does God Hate SL" or somthing, should also be moved to off-topic.

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04-24-2006 22:37
From: Cocoanut Koala
My Opinion:
I know your original post was SL related, but the above posters are right, it did turn into this huge dramafest which I am glad to see moved to off-topic.

I personally don't enjoy reading pages upon pages of anti-Christian talk, and it's easier to avoid when it is in off-topic.

By the same token, though, it seems that Lordfly Digeridoo's thread, entitled, "Why Does God Hate SL" or somthing, should also be moved to off-topic.

coco
You beat me to it. Spin-off threads of moved threads should get the boot to OT as well.
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Starax Statosky
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04-24-2006 22:40
It went to a better place. God works in mysterious ways.
Jonas Pierterson
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04-24-2006 23:15
It shouldn't have been in general anyway, becaus eit was more about religion than SL
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04-24-2006 23:56
Start a Christian sim, and ban Jewish and Islamic and Gorean characters from entering... Think of the drama! Remember, it's not discrimination if you ban people for aspects of their *character*, only if you ban them for aspects of the player.
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04-25-2006 01:09
From: Ty McCoy
My thread was directly related to Second Life and the faith of those who participate. Very on topic.

Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?


Whoever moved must not be Christian :(
Ty McCoy
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04-25-2006 04:03
Sorry I am new to the forums(well unexperienced) and I didnt know how to search for it. I found it, read it, and understand why it was moved to Off Topic.
Angus Taggart
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04-25-2006 04:24
Jesus ( not Fernandez or Gutierrez) is playing/used to play SL?
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04-25-2006 04:25
I eat ham sandwiches with communion bread. :p jk
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04-25-2006 04:34
From: Ty McCoy
My thread was directly related to Second Life and the faith of those who participate. Very on topic.

Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?

Oh jeeze, give us all a fucking break with your religion. Go whine about it in some other forum ok Mr. Devout One.

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04-25-2006 04:45
From: someone
Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?



If they let us have usermade last names, wonder who will be 'Jesus Christ' on here? At least he'd have a map, but finding him would be a click away!

Imagine that, we'd actually have a Jesus Christ on SL and he wouldn't be lost anymore!
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04-25-2006 05:45
I am going to post to this thread, the other thread you probably won't make it through.

Ty, I've been in Second Life for almost 3 years now and there are several things I've learned about the residents I walk among. Yes, there are many who have had bad experiences with Christians or those who claim to live that faith and those who like to make fun of of Christianity and everything it represents. Some of these people are my closest friends and there are times I have had some pretty harsh situations to deal with. I have never walked away from a friendship because of this but I have walked away from the situation. It wasn't necessary for me to say anything, they understand how I felt.

There is such a thing as a "quiet spirit", sometimes it's better to let your faith and your heart speak through how you treat others. I am by no means an example and don't feel like it's my place to preach to others, I would cause more harm than good. I am not telling you to take anything out of your profile, I admire you for it. What I am telling you is, shake the dust off your feet and move on. Unfortunately there are many people of the Christian faith that don't understand the core of it, that don't realize the damage they can cause. Forgiveness, compassion, unconditional love, generosity, and mercy are so many times left behind in the "march to victory". If you do nothing but sow a seed by your kindness, that is a victory. This is not a war to be waged on the "unbeliever".

Always take great care in what you say when representing your faith. I wish you well :).
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04-25-2006 05:53
From: Torrid Midnight
There is such a thing as a "quiet spirit", sometimes it's better to let your faith and your heart speak through how you treat others. I am by no means an example and don't feel like it's my place to preach to others, I would cause more harm than good. I am not telling you to take anything out of your profile, I admire you for it. What I am telling you is, shake the dust off your feet and move on. Unfortunately there are many people of the Christian faith that don't understand the core of it, that don't realize the damage they can cause. Forgiveness, compassion, unconditional love, generosity, and mercy are so many times left behind in the "march to victory". If you do nothing but sow a seed by your kindness, that is a victory. This is not a war to be waged on the "unbeliever".

Always take great care in what you say when representing your faith. I wish you well :).

I think you do a great job representing the majority of Christians in how you live your life, and these comments. Thank you for sharing! :)

Regards,

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04-25-2006 07:13
That was lovely Torrid ! :o
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04-25-2006 07:48
From: Torrid Midnight
I am going to post to this thread, the other thread you probably won't make it through.

Ty, I've been in Second Life for almost 3 years now and there are several things I've learned about the residents I walk among. Yes, there are many who have had bad experiences with Christians or those who claim to live that faith and those who like to make fun of of Christianity and everything it represents. Some of these people are my closest friends and there are times I have had some pretty harsh situations to deal with. I have never walked away from a friendship because of this but I have walked away from the situation. It wasn't necessary for me to say anything, they understand how I felt.

There is such a thing as a "quiet spirit", sometimes it's better to let your faith and your heart speak through how you treat others. I am by no means an example and don't feel like it's my place to preach to others, I would cause more harm than good. I am not telling you to take anything out of your profile, I admire you for it. What I am telling you is, shake the dust off your feet and move on. Unfortunately there are many people of the Christian faith that don't understand the core of it, that don't realize the damage they can cause. Forgiveness, compassion, unconditional love, generosity, and mercy are so many times left behind in the "march to victory". If you do nothing but sow a seed by your kindness, that is a victory. This is not a war to be waged on the "unbeliever".

Always take great care in what you say when representing your faith. I wish you well :).



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04-25-2006 08:20
From: Ty McCoy
My thread was directly related to Second Life and the faith of those who participate. Very on topic.

Its ok to make a thread in general and talk about Prokofys ban from SL , but not Jesus Christs presense in it?



I'm calling you out on your trolling.

That's right, Trolling.

On the last thread, it did indeed turn into a dramabomb that was predictably moved. The entire thread, you did not respond once to a single post on the thread. You made a valid complaint that had the undertones of internet evangelism or trying to stir up a situation where you could claim you were being descriminated against, and appear a martyr.

SO now the thread is moved and you're crying foul, creating another thread to claim you and your faith have been somehow shunned by the forum moderators. Predictable. This proves my point, which really pisses me off, as people "crying wolf" to draw attention to themselves makes the legitimate of their faith look bad. You're not a martyr. Jesus was a martyr. Stephen was a martyr. Unless you're going to go out and get killed because you simply believe, NOT because you're shoving it down people's throats, you're not a martyr. You're just a self-righteous troll who is trying to vault your opinion via the Second Life forums, and I prescribe that you go self-fornicate as a curative measure.
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04-25-2006 08:43
From: Corvus Drake
I'm calling you out on your trolling.

That's right, Trolling.

On the last thread, it did indeed turn into a dramabomb that was predictably moved. The entire thread, you did not respond once to a single post on the thread. You made a valid complaint that had the undertones of internet evangelism or trying to stir up a situation where you could claim you were being descriminated against, and appear a martyr.

SO now the thread is moved and you're crying foul, creating another thread to claim you and your faith have been somehow shunned by the forum moderators. Predictable. This proves my point, which really pisses me off, as people "crying wolf" to draw attention to themselves makes the legitimate of their faith look bad. You're not a martyr. Jesus was a martyr. Stephen was a martyr. Unless you're going to go out and get killed because you simply believe, NOT because you're shoving it down people's throats, you're not a martyr. You're just a self-righteous troll who is trying to vault your opinion via the Second Life forums, and I prescribe that you go self-fornicate as a curative measure.


Corvus, actually it did respond in the other thread with this

From: Ty McCoy
This response was amazing. Such a thing makes the truth very clear. God wants to have a presense in SL. God is calling for the gospels to be spread through this new technology and give an alternative to the filth and sin that exist here. Many of you need, and are wheeping behind your harsh words to be saved by Jesus. It reminds me of Moses going up into the mountains to get the commandments while all the sin was going on by his followers at the bottom of the mountain.


So you're 100% correct, it's an evangelist troll.
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04-25-2006 08:45
Earl, get the diesel fuel.....


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04-25-2006 08:51
From: Corvus Drake
I'm calling you out on your trolling.

That's right, Trolling.

On the last thread, it did indeed turn into a dramabomb that was predictably moved. The entire thread, you did not respond once to a single post on the thread. You made a valid complaint that had the undertones of internet evangelism or trying to stir up a situation where you could claim you were being descriminated against, and appear a martyr.

SO now the thread is moved and you're crying foul, creating another thread to claim you and your faith have been somehow shunned by the forum moderators. Predictable. This proves my point, which really pisses me off, as people "crying wolf" to draw attention to themselves makes the legitimate of their faith look bad. You're not a martyr. Jesus was a martyr. Stephen was a martyr. Unless you're going to go out and get killed because you simply believe, NOT because you're shoving it down people's throats, you're not a martyr. You're just a self-righteous troll who is trying to vault your opinion via the Second Life forums, and I prescribe that you go self-fornicate as a curative measure.


Corvus you may have missed it what with 30 some pages of posts, but Ty did reply to the orginal thread only to indicate that he felt the need to push the evangelical agenda in second life since we are all heathens yada yada yada. I forget which page it is on, but I know I responded.
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