Furries may hold a solution to the unverified problems

Thats because 95% of Furries can't get over themselves yet, so they scream fursecution at every juncture.

Bein a furry myself not withstanding, its our own damn fault we get targeted so much. You build a big bed named furry and invite anyone to sleep on it including the ones that you shouldn't.... well.... you get the idea.

If you don't know what I'm talking about look up "Burned Fur" it was a small movement in the community about 7 or so years back attempting to clean up the image by either creating a small subsect where the sane ones could hang OR kick out all the animal sex maniacs et al.

I'm sure I'll be flamed for bringing that bit of furry history up

As a sim admin i must disagree, since i barely ever see a furry griefer. I've seen like 3 of them since i came to SL... It also isn't cheap to be a furry unless you pluck a furfree vendor one. Most the other ones are 800-5k but once in a while youl find one for 350-500... I do agree that a lot of them just take it as is from the shop, but all the furs i hang out with have altered it by giving themselves flexable tails and twitchy ears or something.

Heh, even the burned's were funny and dramariffic.

To forst point again, I especially love the ones who yell, scream and moan fursecution and not moments later would rag on someone for being hy00man in a furry area. My wonderful neighbour has had this happen to her. She hangs around SL generallly in human form. She has furry avs, she's been in FurryMUCK.. but no, all they see is 'hy00man, ick!'

That actually IS cheap in comparison to normal avatar building, in which the skin alone would run you atleast 1000 to even 5000, and that doesn't include hair or anything else you might want. A furry av comes fully formed and clothed for less than it costs to just get a skin on a human av. And you don't even have to shop around because it'll all come from one place.

I've been around the W-hat and /b/ guys a couple of times, in their sims and otherwise, and there always seems to be about half of them in furry avs, some of them even labeling themselves as furries while others just wearing it to be mocking or because, as I stated, it's cheap and easy.

Maybe the proper distinction could be drawn between free avatars (of any variety) and paid avatars. Any paid avatars requires funds, either from a credit card or a 'gift' from a friend or alt. Either way, the transactions are somewhat traceable and the true source of the funds can be identified more easily.

I really like the idea of a 20 minute delay between registration and being able to enter the main grid. This would not seriously inconvenience new players or someone who needs an alt or two, but would mean that serial griefing with a stream of alts would be made much more difficult.

At the very least, the 20 minutes would allow the griefers to do something more creative than rezzing a plywood cylinder penis to parade around the PG areas. Sheesh guys, at least use a flexiprim...

This is truth.

I sat with a relative recently who joined SL for the first time. I think in thier own way LL is trying to put in a delay. Beginners Island was missing 2 notable things when she came through. The TP to skip the island at the beginning and the TP at the end that lets you skip help island. So maybe they are already thinking along these lines.

I spend alot of time shopping, about 90 percent of my time in SL i shop.. I spend alot of time finding perfect pink hair and great outfits.. So saying that furries are the ones that put alot of time into their shapes and skins.. I have to disagree, I don't know how many outfits I have I have to tweak my shape so it doesn't look odd..

Ok thats it, im mad at furries now.. hmmpf

Ok, I will forgive all furries only if they can tell me how to make my new little pink bunny avatar throw cards.. But untill someone tells me, im getting a car and lookin for em!!!

Now even I didn't expect my post to be read in quite that manner.

Let me try again,

The proportion of well made furries to furries wearing a white t-shirts and noob jeans is greater than the proportion of well designed human avatars to human avatars wearing white t-shirts and noob jeans.

Now don't get mad at furries because of me. They have sharp teeth and we all know what killer rabbits can do.

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/python_bloody_rabbit_L.jpg

But fear not good woman, I have one of these...

http://www.rpgshop.com/images/uploaded/minigrenade.jpg

So shop in peace.

Well made furries? Most of them have the exact same store bought avatar. I have yet to meet a furry that has an avatar that is well made yet also different from anyone elses. I guess you are technically right; but only because everyone has the same exact avatar which looks better then a guy who made a fox head out of cubes.

*ruminates this one out* Now, it might work if they combine the delay with a session timeout of 5 minutes idleness... Well, it will slow down the stupid griefers. I can already see the holes in it, but every little bit helps in slowing them down.

Here is where I would disagree. I use two different red dragon AVs. One is a Luskwood, which I like because of the ease of attachments. The other is an NWS, which I like because of the attention to detail. In all honesty, the two AVs are totally different from one another, one has wings, and the other does not. One has a more rounded head, while the other has a more pointy snout and long wiskers, etc, etc.

And, even though they are a bit large for my tastes, lets not forget the Isle of Wyrms stuff.. really nothing else like 'em.

And that is just on the dragon side of things, not the plethora of other anthro shapes.

To further shed light on earlier made points...

1. I do not do the furry thing to yiff. To each their own, but none for me, thanks.

2. I do not do the dragon furry thing becuase I believe to possess a dragon "spirit" creature. I just picked a design and stuck with it, since I have come to be known as a dragon.

3. I do not wear a furry AV because I do not fit into society. I am very socially adept.

The truth to the matter is simply this: I did the furry thing because I wanted to see what it was all about. Then, I discovered that using an AV which dosen't look completely human is incredibly psychologically liberating and, after awhile, friends began reffering to me as a dragon, so I stuck with it. I kinda think the whole thing is cute, and for me it is completely for fun, and should not be taken too seriously.

Hope that gave a little additional insight into the mind of a furry.

Are you serious? You need to get out more. I've seen dragons with claws as big as my head. I've seen wherewolves that looked so real I did a double take. I saw a bird once with huge wings and scales on it's body and a dragon tail. I've seen tiny little teddy bears and gorgeous long legged women with cat fur and tails and very human bodies.

Whether you're furry, human, robot, or other SL is all about seeing something new around the next corner. Actually I think it's more rare to run into two avatars that look exactly the same unless it's done intentionally.

EDIT: In fact come to think of it, I've seen a lot more humans who all look the same than I have furries who do.

First off, dragons are not furries, they are dragons. Anthro-anything does not count as a full fledged dragon, wolf, fish, what ever. Second, That werewolve avie is pretty common, so maybe you need to get out more. Heck, I'm looking at two right now in Lusk.

Now, I'm not saying that furry avies are bad or anything along those lines. I'm saying is damn silly to think they are unique {in a positive way}, or that they are a step above other "types" of avies when it comes to customization, which was what I replied to.

Now we're just splitting hares.

Here are some pics of my avatar. Now tell me, does this realy look all that 'newbish, vendor model steriotype' to you?

http://wolfeedarkfang.furrynet.com/images/YiffyYaffle/

I sure hope not, since i've spent my entire SL life perfecting it. Something i cherrish more then anything.

i think i'm a very cute little female wolf. *wag* ^.^

-.- no one answered my question about my little rabbit av!!!!! how do i throw cards?!?!?!

...I made my avatar myself, also, and I don't plan on giving it out to anyone, so I could say that nobody else has an avatar like mine in all of SecondLife.

...how many yellow geckos have you seen running around?

picture or it didn't happen!

Hmm... wow this thread went off on a tangent... even more than usual.

For the record, my fox av is COMPLETELY different from any furry avatar you'll findin any vendor. I've changed everything, mixed-and-matched, rainbowized some hair that didn't even come with it, etc, etc. The only thing that's not been edited is the skin, and that'll also be changed as soon as I actually figure out how to make my own skin.

RE the rabbit throwing cards thing: You could prolly use the same script as a gun-type-thing, but make the 'gun' a deck of cards, and only able to 'shoot' one at a time?

Just find me in world! o.O

You crazyhead!