Should avie sex be banned?
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-02-2006 11:43 
                        From: Zuleica Sartre Thing that amazes me most is there are actually 20 pathetic people that voted 'yes'. I voted no for the record, but please, don't call people pathetic for being brave enough to voice their feelings in the face of popular opinion.  Right or wrong, they have the right to vote as they please without being insulted for it. Let's face it, I could just as easily say that anyone who needs avie sex must be pathetic, since any normal person would get it in rl.  But that would be cruel, so I won't.  
                        
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                     onionpencil Musashi 
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                         08-02-2006 12:02 
                        who sez they can't get it in both? 
                        
                    
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-02-2006 12:04 
                        From: onionpencil Musashi who sez they can't get it in both? Course they can... I was suggesting an extreme case to make a point.  People are not pathetic for voicing their views... though I couldn't guarantee the same about people who call them that.  
                        
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                     Lorelei Patel 
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                         08-02-2006 12:05 
                        From: Zuleica Sartre Thing that amazes me most is there are actually 20 pathetic people that voted 'yes'. I voted "yes" just to make the poll more balanced. What's the fun if its 100 percent to 0 percent?  
                        
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                     Chronic Skronski 
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                         08-02-2006 12:08 
                        From: Tre Giles  Is RL sex *disgusting* to you? I bet the OP does it for procreation only, through a hole in a sheet, and with a deathgrip on the Bible.  
                        
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                         08-02-2006 12:25 
                        From: Carmo Camus What are your thoughts on this disgusting practice? Even if LL DID ban av sex, I don't know HOW they'd manage to suppress it without having an extra staff of lindens to monitor IMs, public chat, scripted channels, group chat, etc.  Which would invade everyone's privacy, cost tons more for LL, and make them lose LOTS of subscribers.  
                        
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                     Mojavewolfpup Hearn 
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                         08-02-2006 12:27 
                        what next? want to deny babyfurs the chance to be who they are? thanks oh life nazi, apparently we don't have enough people in life telling us what we can't and can not do.... 
                        
                    
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                     Artemis Fate 
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                         08-02-2006 12:31 
                        From: Carmo Camus So does no one remember the days BEFORE custom animations? I do.  Sex was just more text based and looked ridiculous when people tried to use animations (the infamous motorcycle ride being dominant), it looked more like stiff cadavers molded into a weird position and pushed against eachother.  Thankfully, atleast Xcite wasn't around then.  
                        
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                         08-02-2006 12:32 
                        From: Siobhan Taylor But you've been here 3 days now, you can't be... OMG... too funny.  After 3 days... NOOOOO... must be a virgin.     And didn't you know... no one is *nawty* in SL... after all... all the PRIM babies are just immaculate conceptions.    
                        
                    
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                     Cucsijuan Grosso 
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                         08-02-2006 12:46 
                        For me sl it tries to be a world full of freedoms, always and when, you do not break the rules, the sex is naturally human, and is one of our freedoms, I wonder  why they would have to ban it? 
                        
                    
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                         08-02-2006 12:59 
                        From: Chronic Skronski I bet the OP does it for procreation only, through a hole in a sheet, and with a deathgrip on the Bible. THey call it a "Lifegrip" because they don't really die, ya know?   What gave me the giggles was the reference to SL escorts as "having sex in its most impure form".  First off, this is another person that needs to see Dolcett for shock value.  Second, I was unaware it was possible to have sex in a "pure" or "impure" way in SL.   Seeing that up there...wow.   So does that mean no avvie sex until avvie marriage?  
                        
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                     Mina Firefly 
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                         08-03-2006 02:33 
                        Well that would be a good thing for all those wedding dress designers in SL.
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-03-2006 02:34 
                        From: Mina Firefly Well that would be a good thing for all those wedding dress designers in SL.    LOL Hell, this is SL, Lo... you don't need to get married to wear a wedding dress in SL.  
                        
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                         08-03-2006 02:43 
                        From: Siobhan Taylor Hell, this is SL, Lo... you don't need to get married to wear a wedding dress in SL.   Come to think of it you don't need to get married in RL either to wear a wedding dress. You don't even have to be a woman.  Not saying anything about not getting strange looks though.  
                        
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-03-2006 03:05 
                        From: Aodhan McDunnough Not saying anything about not getting strange looks though. Who cares about th looks if it feels good?  
                        
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                     Aodhan McDunnough 
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                         08-03-2006 03:10 
                        From: Siobhan Taylor Who cares about th looks if it feels good?   I was always under the impression that wedding dresses were bordering on uncofortable, heavy, and sometimes hot.  Speaking of heavy, heard of the wedding gown maker who put velcro (hook side) under the gown's train so that it will glide on stone ... and it absolutely anchored the bride when it went on carpet?  
                        
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                     Hypatia Callisto 
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                         08-03-2006 03:12 
                        From: Siobhan Taylor I voted no for the record, but please, don't call people pathetic for being brave enough to voice their feelings in the face of popular opinion.  Right or wrong, they have the right to vote as they please without being insulted for it.
  Let's face it, I could just as easily say that anyone who needs avie sex must be pathetic, since any normal person would get it in rl.  But that would be cruel, so I won't. you can have your opinion on any topic, the fact of the matter is that you can't stop it and self-examination is in order for why it even should be an issue for you. Adults will do what adults do, trying to stop sex in SL is about as effective as trying to stop sex anywhere else, be it internet or RL. You can't monitor people's private conversations, SL wouldn't remain open for very long if they did. People wouldn't tolerate such invasions of their privacy, plus it could open LL to all matter of lawsuits, ones that have nothing to do with sex but rather laws that could make them have to be considered a publisher rather than an internet service - the laws for internet services protect them much better over content that they didn't originate. (Prodigy bit the bullet on that one some years back, when censoring email) Be careful what you ask for, as the saying goes. SL has pg areas and mature, it's done what it can to accomodate everyone.  
                        
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-03-2006 03:26 
                        From: Hypatia Callisto SL has pg areas and mature, it's done what it can to accomodate everyone. Exactly, I agree... but it doesn't give people the right to call those who don't "pathetic".  
                        
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                         08-03-2006 03:31 
                        I'd like to see a chart on spending and what type of items or services are purchased, I guarantee anything under the category sex (poseballs, furniture, escorts, clubs, xcite) is going to be a huge percentage of the spending each day and the entire economy.
  Sex sells. 
                        
                    
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                     Siobhan Taylor 
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                         08-03-2006 03:34 
                        From: Ramus Overlord I'd like to see a chart on spending and what type of items or services are purchased, I guarantee anything under the category sex (poseballs, furniture, escorts, clubs, xcite) is going to be a huge percentage of the spending each day and the entire economy.    Sex sells. Mostly to the guys I'd suspect, though obviously not exclusively.  I doubt there are many women in SL (real women at least) who spend much on clubs and escorts.  Furniture is a one-off purchase and isn't much of SLs economy anyway (believe me, I make the stuff).  Poseballs, yeah, I guess, though I haven't bought any in litterally ages...  I couldn't tell you about Xcite though... I'm sure it's popular, but talking genitals seem kinda silly to me.  
                        
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                     Hypatia Callisto 
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                         08-03-2006 05:33 
                        From: Siobhan Taylor Exactly, I agree... but it doesn't give people the right to call those who don't "pathetic". I never called anyone pathetic, so this doesn't apply to me. But if someone exercises their "right" to put their opinion out there, especially an unpopular one that's likely to draw emotional responses from people who pay for an adult service, not to mention seriously unworkable in SL, expect emotional responses against it. I have little sympathy, because it's to be expected. Another angle. If avie sex was banned in SL, there would be no point to a teen grid. I don't want to babysit someone else's kids, I like that SL has separate grids. Sex or no sex. (actually, sex is how those kids came about, maybe it should be banned in RL too   ) Actually, as I was thinking about this issue, the idea occured to me that perhaps SL  should limit nonverified accounts to PG areas and refuse teleportation to mature until they verify their identity with a paying account. That way they aren't liable at all - as the person would have to lie if they are underage, there would be a RL identity easier to verify, and take the onus on themselves for entering into mature areas. Nonpaying accounts shouldn't have free reign in the world, IMO.  
                        
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                         08-03-2006 05:50 
                        From: Hypatia Callisto Nonpaying accounts shouldn't have free reign in the world, IMO. let me clarify that better - they should at least have payment info on file, so there is some way to verify an identity is real or not. They don't have to pay premium, but they should at least have a payment method on file before entering a mature zone.  
                        
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                         Hi Tatiana 
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                        Hi Hun! 
                        
                    
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                     Tatiana Sims 
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                         08-03-2006 06:05 
                        Hey there George    
                        
                    
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                         08-03-2006 23:07 
                        From: Carmo Camus What are your thoughts on this disgusting practice? I think if you're finding it disgusting you should stay in PG land.  I don't want to sound rude - but the sims are graded for that purpose.  
                        
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