SecondLife Unified Role Playing. SLURP.
There. Done. That'll be L$250.
There. Done. That'll be L$250.
Burke wins! Perfect name. I'll send you the 250 for the rights
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
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04-18-2006 10:32
Burke wins! Perfect name. I'll send you the 250 for the rights _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
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04-18-2006 10:35
Will it be based on Harry Harrisons "Technicolour Time Machine"? All original content. I've been working on this concept for months --NOW is the perfect time to begin launching. I'll be announcing a meeting for all interested SLURPER's in the upcoming campaign to meet at my Viking Village in Funadama this weekend. Time to be announced. _____________________
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Jessica Qin
Wo & Shade, Importers
Join date: 16 Feb 2005
Posts: 161
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04-18-2006 10:47
Here's a pie-in-the-sky idea for events that had large draws (although I don't think it could be implemented now without some major infrastructure changes): pay to reduce your lag. 30+ people in a sim, and the L$200 tickets let you move around more smoothly than the L$20 tickets.
Thinking about it . . . maybe some kind of 'tax' on hoochie hair or other known lag-inducing attachments? Jess _____________________
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Callie Cline
Registered User
Join date: 10 Jul 2005
Posts: 101
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04-18-2006 10:53
how bout SL just charges taxes so they can keep paying out dwell monies....
NOT!!! like the creative thinking... _____________________
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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04-18-2006 10:55
must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things
(takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things (takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things (takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) You get the idea.  _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
Emperor of Second Life
Join date: 9 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,690
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04-18-2006 10:59
Make you own entertainment. Get a real world job and use that to subsidize your SL entertainment. Charge others to com e to your empty club, because they are all making thier own clubs.
Play DnD online. _____________________
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Zack Mortal
Flesh peddler
Join date: 9 Jan 2006
Posts: 57
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04-18-2006 11:26
The first campaign will begin soon. "Time Traveling Vikings" You had me at "Time Traveling Vikings." _____________________
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Void Singer
Int vSelf = Sing(void);
Join date: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,973
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04-18-2006 11:47
"Time Traveling Vikings." .... The Lost Vikings? ::evil grin:: |
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Surreal Farber
Cat Herder
Join date: 5 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,059
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04-18-2006 12:03
must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things (takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things (takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) must make more things, so i can make more money, so i can buy more things (takes a breathe) must think of ways to make more money, so I can buy more things, must work harder (takes a breathe) You get the idea. Actually no, I don't get the idea. But I get that you have some sort of money obsession. You post on it all the time. Why do you care so much what other people are doing? Trying to control how other people live their lives (2nd included) is like trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon. Just do your own thing and be happy. Unless these posts are essential to your happiness. In that case, carry on. _____________________
Surreal
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
Join date: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 4,219
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04-18-2006 12:04
Unless these posts are essential to your happiness. In that case, carry on.  _____________________
go to Nocturnal Threads
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Christopher Omega
Oxymoron
Join date: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 1,828
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04-18-2006 12:10
Here's an old idea:
Have tickets and charge for admission?  I like the idea of scripting a ticket vending machine that sells no-copy "tickets". These tickets would then be worn (in the hand, for example) by visitors in exchange for the rights to experiance an entertainment venue for a period of time specified by the owner of the ticket vendor. Simple idea, already implemented in RL, just wasn't mentioned before in this thread. ==Chris _____________________
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Noh Rinkitink
Just some Nohbody
Join date: 31 Jan 2006
Posts: 572
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04-18-2006 13:43
If you figure out a way to call it SLURP, I'm in. Second Life Ultimate Role Playing? |
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Zonax Delorean
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 767
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04-18-2006 14:25
Here's an old idea: Have tickets and charge for admission? Did you run any calculations? My event has about 15-25 ppl. attending. I can't charge them really, since it's a kind of contest, but let's say I would, and I'd charge L$ 50 for the event lasting an hour. That's about 700 - 1250 L$ total, that is, about 4 USD. Wow, wtg! I almost got a rl minimal wage, except I have other costs: bandwidth, streaming, prizes, etc. So let's say I get 2 USD. Might as well do it for free... or NOT do it. I like the idea of scripting a ticket vending machine that sells no-copy "tickets". These tickets would then be worn (in the hand, for example) by visitors in exchange for the rights to experiance an entertainment venue for a period of time specified by the owner of the ticket vendor. How about the FFRC sponsored Box Office script? _____________________
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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04-18-2006 14:36
Personally I'll be going with:
Hire people to run events/classes/parties and see how it goes. THat way the people working get a good dollar, the people coming get it for free, and hopefully I recoup losses on spillover on the days sales. win win win _____________________
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Clarrice Cinquetti
\m/ รดรด \m/
Join date: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 259
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04-18-2006 14:50
I know at one time I thought about making a 10 x 10 area in front of the slingo board for people to advertise their goods. What better way to show a group of people your wares.
But even with that, what would be considerable to charge that vender? Same with signage for profit, I seen Minkys old Roller Derby track had ads all around it like you would see during ice skating, Hockey etc. Do we really want a large parcel full of signage? I guess I am just worried that along with them taking away incentives eventually prices for tier will also rise. Will that be next? It is nice to see someone post a thread for ideas. I am not in SL to make profit. Meeting new people and seeing others builds is the profit I receive, I enjoy it a lot. Maybe Linden Lab needs to buy up a bunch of the mainland parcels for sale and raffle off areas for Second Life parks. At least give people who want to build pretty park settings something to do and beautify the grid a bit. Get rid of traffic and the popular listings. Let new residents find what they consider popular on their own. Let word of mouth be the way of popularity. _____________________
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Jonquille Noir
Lemon Fresh
Join date: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,025
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04-18-2006 15:06
I've always liked the idea of sponsorship, and have sponsored a few events in my day. It's simpler, and more accepted, than some people would have others believe.
Tell me about your event. Offer to put up a couple 'for sale' boxes prominently, a landmark, and I'll give you some stuff to give away for free, or pay for your DJ if that's what's needed. I have advertising, you have prizes, I have sales from the event and visits from the landmark... everyone wins. I've only run a few events during my time in SL, but each of them has had sponsors that donated prizes worth far more than I would have been able to give with cash. _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
Emperor of Second Life
Join date: 9 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,690
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04-18-2006 15:54
Have a yard sale, get sponsorss for your yard sale.
How about individual sponsor ship of competitions? I could sponsor a best...contest, if I could judge it. Or better yet I could sponsor an Alchemy camping chair! _____________________
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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04-19-2006 03:00
Actually no, I don't get the idea. But I get that you have some sort of money obsession. You post on it all the time. Why do you care so much what other people are doing? Trying to control how other people live their lives (2nd included) is like trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon. Just do your own thing and be happy. Unless these posts are essential to your happiness. In that case, carry on. Dito chicka. There is a huge difference between voicing ones opinion and "obsession". It's these kind of off the cuff remarks that make shit stirring an art form. In other worlds let's leave the dhrama at the door and talk about the impact of this lastest move by LL. After all it's what I am trying to do. What did you do besides put down ppl expressing their opinion? Did you offer a solution, did you see my concerns and face them head on? Or did you take the low road and call my actions into question? I have no use for unnecessary dhrama, however an adult conversation would be a nice change of pace. _____________________
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Surreal Farber
Cat Herder
Join date: 5 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,059
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04-19-2006 03:42
Dito chicka. There is a huge difference between voicing ones opinion and "obsession". It's these kind of off the cuff remarks that make shit stirring an art form. In other worlds let's leave the dhrama at the door and talk about the impact of this lastest move by LL. After all it's what I am trying to do. What did you do besides put down ppl expressing their opinion? Did you offer a solution, did you see my concerns and face them head on? Or did you take the low road and call my actions into question? I have no use for unnecessary dhrama, however an adult conversation would be a nice change of pace. Yes... my contribution in this thread to solutions. Don't forget getting teir donations from people who just want to see something cool continue. If the land is paid for, content has many more options. Currently mainland only option  Your contribution was another post expressing your contempt for anyone who makes an $L here. After two years of your posts, I don't expect a balanced or reasonable conversation in your post - much less adult. I reason with the reasonable. _____________________
Surreal
Phobos 3d Design - putting the hot in psychotic since 2004 Come see our whole line of clothing, animations and accessories in Chaos (37, 198, 43) |
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Surreal Farber
Cat Herder
Join date: 5 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,059
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04-19-2006 03:56
I've always liked the idea of sponsorship, and have sponsored a few events in my day. It's simpler, and more accepted, than some people would have others believe. Tell me about your event. Offer to put up a couple 'for sale' boxes prominently, a landmark, and I'll give you some stuff to give away for free, or pay for your DJ if that's what's needed. I have advertising, you have prizes, I have sales from the event and visits from the landmark... everyone wins. I've only run a few events during my time in SL, but each of them has had sponsors that donated prizes worth far more than I would have been able to give with cash. I've thrown this idea out before, but no one has taken me up on it yet. 1. Research our products. 2. If your event would appeal to our customers, then... 3. Drop me a notecard (with an IM) listing... - what & when of your event - landmark to site - two sentences about why your event would go well with my products - what you want from me and what I get in return If someone takes the time to do this, and it's a suitable, then I'd be happy to donate $L and prizes. But I expect the person who wants the $L to do some leg work, not just IM me with uhhh.. gonna do something... uhhh... want to give me lewt? _____________________
Surreal
Phobos 3d Design - putting the hot in psychotic since 2004 Come see our whole line of clothing, animations and accessories in Chaos (37, 198, 43) |
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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04-19-2006 04:04
But I expect the person who wants the $L to do some leg work, not just IM me with uhhh.. gonna do something... uhhh... want to give me lewt? Hey it worked for me! _____________________
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Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
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04-19-2006 04:23
I'm building a tropical island sim right now for a customer. One part of it will be a large swimming pool and water slides. Lots of fun to play on. I'm seriously considering placing what amounts to a 'tip jar' at the pool area, so people who use it and enjoy it can readily make voluntary donations. I'd rather do that than require admission. That same sim will have a small merchant area. We'll be inviting specific merchants who sell items that are useful for playing on a tropical island to set up there. Things like a swimming HUD, water craft, scuba gear, swimwear... I'm going to talk to the sim owner about doing those merchant vendors as something that gives the sim a cut of the sales, rather than charging a monthly rent for sales space. Another option for fun venues is simply a pass system for site admission. Set the parcel so it requires a land pass for access, and script an admission system so people can purchase passes, which expire after X number of hours/days. Make a good enough attraction, price it reasonably, and it could make money. I rather like the idea of low-key advertising. Might work well in some venues. Having 'sponsors' for a venue can work too. Place a sign and notecard giver at the telehub, or at some well-used location in the venue, that lists the sponsoring individuals and businesses, and offers landmarks back to them. Sponsors pay a fee per month, in return for being listed on the cards that month. Good luck with that! Techra never made enough donations to even pay basic tier. <shrugs> Simply, most people will not pay in second life unless you force the issue, and most of them will just pass on it then. |
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Christopher Omega
Oxymoron
Join date: 28 Mar 2003
Posts: 1,828
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04-19-2006 10:54
Did you run any calculations? My event has about 15-25 ppl. attending. I can't charge them really, since it's a kind of contest, but let's say I would, and I'd charge L$ 50 for the event lasting an hour. That's about 700 - 1250 L$ total, that is, about 4 USD. Wow, wtg! I almost got a rl minimal wage, except I have other costs: bandwidth, streaming, prizes, etc. So let's say I get 2 USD. Might as well do it for free... or NOT do it. Just offering up a suggestion. It helps to have more then the "group sponsorship" and donation model that seem to be the universally accepted ideas in this thread. How about the FFRC sponsored Box Office script? That's something I haven't looked at yet, is it open source? what features does it have? I was thinking of using objects as represent tickets so that you can give a ticket to someone after buying it in advance. It also allows the event owner to host the event without needing an external server database. ==Chris |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-19-2006 11:18
The one trend I saw over the last few months that I did not like was the advent of camping chairs -- groups of AFK folks running their stay-logged-in macros while they slept and keeping the store's dwell up. It was a natural outgrowth of the whole dwell concept and exposed the basic flaw it has had all along. Google's one of the biggest, most important, and fastest growing companies on the Internet. If there was a "basic flaw in dwell" then it would apply to the clickthroughs and other mechanisms google uses to charge advertisers and pay clients, and Google wouldn't exist. |
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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04-19-2006 12:06
.... The Lost Vikings? ::evil grin:: good game |
