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Make Your Voice Heard on the Dissolution of Jade and Torley's Partnership

Csven Concord
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02-13-2006 11:56
This reminds me of the U.S. military's "Don't ask don't tell" policy.

The earlier suggestion to entirely remove that declaration from our profiles seems the most reasonable to me.
Gabe Lippmann
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02-13-2006 11:58
From: Schwanson Schlegel
I don't think LL should allow official partnerships between employees and customers.
LL did the right thing here IMO.
I like both Torley and Jade, and this is no reflection as to how I feel about them.


I'm behind you on this.

Recognizing that there is nothing much they can do, it is still appropriate for SL to not officially endorse it.
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Jonquille Noir
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02-13-2006 11:58
From: Jeska Linden
Threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, I'd like to ask everyone who wants to address the issue of Lindens with Resident Partners to please bring the discussion back to the overall topic, instead of focusing on one particular case.


The overall topic is one specific case, as per the original post, and poll.
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Lo Jacobs
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02-13-2006 12:01
From: Csven Concord
The earlier suggestion to entirely remove that declaration from our profiles seems the most reasonable to me.


That doesn't make sense at all.
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Aimee Weber
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02-13-2006 12:19
I like the partner field. I think it's a very human need for community acknowledgement and celebration of a union. Also, as luck would have it, it's optional so if you are a private person you don't need to participate.

Of course hiding the partner status of Lindens will save them some short-term headaches by keeping residents in the dark about Linden relationships, but it will catch up with them eventually. Non-disclosure as a company policy will encourage undispelled rumors (I, for one, have been rumored to be involved with every Linden around...such a busy girl!)

Whatever concerns one has about Linden-Resident partnerships, they will only become aggravated by secrecy. If you have a dispute with another resident, it's better to KNOW that the investigating Linden is involved with the resident so you can request another Linden.
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02-13-2006 12:25
I have zero problem with them being partners, and think its silly they had to stop. Plenty of Lindens have resident partners on their alt accounts, which were formed long before their Lindenhood. I don't see how this should be a problem. Its not like the Partner field gives any access, or that any kind of development will ever be done in that direction.

Torley would simply have to recuse herself from any process should Jade beat someone to death with a library book.

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Lash Xevious
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02-13-2006 12:26
I agree with Schwanson. Besides I think Torley commented on this already saying it was something Jadey and her both agreed was a better choice. But I'm para-phrasing.

Anyways, many people have been together without the necessity to declare it in their profiles. And they can always say it in other ways in their profile.

I don't see it as an injustice. Especially considering this couple is still openly committed to each other.

Perhaps it's more unfair to other Linden-resident relationships. But ultimately, I don't care to know who's dating who.
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02-13-2006 12:27
From: Jonquille Noir
The overall topic is one specific case, as per the original post, and poll.


yeah i don't get that either.
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Lash Xevious
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02-13-2006 12:44
From: someone
Threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, I'd like to ask everyone who wants to address the issue of Lindens with Resident Partners to please bring the discussion back to the overall topic, instead of focusing on one particular case.


Yah, but since Jeska commented that ^ I guess it's a call to broaden the topic. So we should get off the tangent of just this one couple and just discuss it in general terms.

So ... how bout them Lindens hooking up with other people but don't get to say it in their profiles? That's some kind of whack unrequitted love. :p

Though Aimee made a good point on knowing who a Linden's partner is in case a resident has a dispute with that partner. And the disclosure could kill some of the rumour-mongering going around.

I'm still indifferent to it. I dunno. Just feel like it's too nosey. And I'd rather let the people have a certain degree of privacy. Sure, on a professional level they need to disclose it to their employer. But the whole grid doesn't have to know.
Margaret Mfume
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02-13-2006 12:53
The "no opinion" option isn't working for the people who are certain of their opinion that it isn't their business. :)
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02-13-2006 12:54
I'll make it short and sweet.

It aint my danged business. It's Torley's and Jade's business, and in a small way it's related to LL.

In either case, their laundry is not mine to go sniffing around.

'Nuff said.



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Gene Jacobs
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02-13-2006 13:59
I would be excied to be asked to work at LL, but I would consider Sweet's feelings first.

I have a strong idea that Sweet would know my heart is for her, and my paycheck is LL. I also know she would encourage me to take the job.

I do think there is no real benefit to a partner in SL who is listed on your profile. We don't a tax (tier) break.

It was an honor that Sweet agreed to be my partner in SL, but other people treated it as nothing. It seems that the moment we became a couple, the Drama-atics zeroed in on us to break it up.

LL seems to think a Partner in game is worth more, because they did ask that they dissolve it. I doubt they would have asked if they didn't think it would cause a greater conflict that this post is trying to do.

It seems that Torley is a great Linden, and I look for a better LL. I will respect the Linden's choice, as well as the unofficial partnership of Torley and Jade. Torley has a job to do, and will do it well.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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02-13-2006 14:00
Linden staff members who are polygamous need to have multiple partner fields.

---edit---- I should have said polyamorous, I was in a hurry to get back to work and couldn't think of the term fast enough. -------
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Gabe Lippmann
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02-13-2006 14:02
If it is none of anyone's business, why is it put in a public profile at all?
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Lash Xevious
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02-13-2006 14:29
From: Gabe Lippmann
If it is none of anyone's business, why is it put in a public profile at all?


Perhaps it was intended to be an automated way to declare, "I call dibs on this one." You know, marking the territory as such, cuz the canine way is a bit unsanitary. :p
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02-13-2006 15:44
From: someone
If it is none of anyone's business, why is it put in a public profile at all?
Because it would have made this thread terribly un-dramatic. :p
Noh Rinkitink
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02-13-2006 15:45
Lash, you just missed out on making me spray Coca-Cola(r) through my nose.

In other words, need to work on your timing. :p :D

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Personally, I don't think it's any of our business, nor do I think that not having each others' name in the "Partner" field of the profile has any effect on the feelings between Jade and Torley.

(No, I haven't had an SL romantic interest nor am I inclined in any way to be seeking one, but SL is hardly my first "virtual world" experience, just the first one that isn't text-based.)
Neehai Zapata
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02-13-2006 15:48
As long as they are still allowed to have unbridled monkey sex, I don't see a problem.
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02-13-2006 15:49
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You know, marking the territory as such, cuz the canine way is a bit unsanitary. :p
You say that as if there is something wrong with it. How do other people mark their territory?

You ever been in one of those situations where you do something a certain way without thinking about because that's how you learned it at home? Things like using split sinks in the kitchen, or buying manual transmission cars? I guess I should start a poll or sumptin...
Jake Reitveld
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02-13-2006 16:11
As an offcial policy linden lab is correct in keeping its lindens, who are administrators from having relationships in their official capacity with residents. In many other companies, online GM's are prohibited from dating residents.

It has nothing to do with the acutalities of the circumstances and everything to do with open the door to liability from serious misinterpretation. LL is protecting itself, its employees and even the residents with this policy. It should not be changed for Torley's sake, as nice as that result would make us feel.

Legally its dangerous. And proper legal representation assumes a worst case scenario.

The reality is that the relaitionship is between people, and that remains intact. They were not forced to separate, its just Torley's New status as a Linden precludes his partnering with a resident officially. Its part of the cost of taking the job at LL.
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02-13-2006 16:20
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02-13-2006 17:19
this thread has entered grey areas which i am relinquishing to Linden review.

yes, in other words, this thread is closed until further notice.. and possibly after that as well. ;)
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