How do you feel about the new registration system?

I do not know the answers to the legal questions raised regarding liability.
I would hope that LL has people who are smarter than me to look at before making this kind of decision.

I agree with those who are saying we need better tools to safeguard our private lands and shops from those who would take pleasure in ruining our fun.

Ejecting someone from your land is not adequate before you can go in to the ban list to add the name they are back. Then within 2 mins they are back with a new name.

Give me the tools to protect my property or give me the freedom to use harsher means to protect myself on my own property with out fear of being punished.

Oreo's are like prozac, eat 4 or 5 and forget about it all.

Karmi

Oh yes, I agree, a lot of the time decisions made like this can go wrong, but when they go right they go down as the spark of genius that changed the course of a company. Often times they're poor because they're made out of necessity. But conversely, often they're great decisions in hind-sight because it's the most dramatic and risky option in order to protect your future and it brings the greater rewards.

I still like the IP ban idea. Let property owners ban individual IPs.

Honestly, I'm not one to get bent out of shape over things like this, or believe that my view is the only one that's right. There's too much of that in these forums.

I'm just hoping you're right

Well said. One measure of success is not the customers you have, but the customers you turn away.

I do suspect that since SL is running of of someone elses dime right now, increasing numbers may a requirement.

One possibly solution is having three classes of accounts, Premium, old style free w/ cc verification, and the new free accounts. The new type of free accounts would be limited to PG areas only, and individual land owners could ban these types of accounts as well, making them effectivly test accounts.

If they are not willing to cough up ten bucks, that should tell you something.

I have to agree with the majority here, SL is not ready IMO. Even long-term, I'm unsure if open sign-up is a good thing, but then perhaps that's because I am not convinced that it can become a '3D internet'. I just hope that we are all worrying about nothing, and that things do settle down. At the moment, though, I'm finding it hard to see that happening.

I have a so-called "static IP" assigned by my ISP, which I can change with one router reboot. Takes about 20 seconds tops. IP's are not a good way to ID someone without other fingerprinting methods in combination.

Fictional Scenario

1. Alt Altenburg, who lives in my RL neighbourhood, messes with your property, so you ban his IP.
2. Alt Altenburg creates an alt and is now Alty Altenstein.
3. Alty Altenstein reboots his router and gets a new IP. He is now completely free to enter your land to create more chaos.
4. If you ban his new IP, he gets a new alt again, reboots the router, gets a new IP and once again is free to enter your land.
5. I encounter network trouble, so I reboot my router to see if my node is the problem. I get assigned Alt Altenburg's first IP.

Question

Would you risk losing my business, an upstanding citizen, to ban Alt Altenburg for maybe 5 minutes?

Better yet, would you like to risk getting banned from a good portion of the grid because you have an old IP of a scammer?

So, Island controls updated to MAC/IP banning, and a full set of Island 'Plus' controls for mainlanders in this Wednesday's 'update' Moopf?

That'll be along with Havok2, Speedtree, Mono, World Peace and Free Beer I guess?

It sucks Plain and simple
I for one have been very happy with most decsions And changes Linden Labs have made over the 2 years i have been in Sl, but this one I have to say IMHO is the worst and with out a doubt will only hurt LL in the long run

Doc, with all due respect there's a lot of words going around and a lot of talk of it getting worse but, you know what, today's latest scam that's taken root has been perpetrated by people who's born dates are way before the change in registration.

*shrug* Go figure.

Actually, the shit hit the fan a while ago. Now, with this, the fan is covered in shit. I'm not speaking 'theoretically' or something that's "going to happen". 90% of what we do in Luskwood now, when we're online, is griefer control . This week, well, there simply aren't enough of us to go around. It's worse. Not "it might get worse", it already is worse. Much worse.

The shit has hit the fan, and the tools, which we needed a long time ago, are still MIA.



I sure hope not. But it's beginning to feel that way. I was hoping to see SOMETHING in the 1.10.4 list, but, nothing.

I already did Moopf, in fact I pointed out to a Linden as soon as the changes were made that besides opening the doors to under age griefers, the other effect would be to remove all constraints from any existing residents who were inclined to trouble making and law breaking, Which in the case you have just pinpointed seems to be exactly what's happened...

Moopf, most of the 'trouble' I've seen lately, hovers around the dates of 6/13, 6/14 and 6/15.

Some press event combined with the new 'open gates' policy. But no, no doubt at all, pretty much ALL of the troublemaker accounts i've seen in the last week are 1-2 days old.

I'm telling you, it already is out of control. It WAS out of control before this change - at least for griefing on the mainland - and this change has shot it beyond the bounds of 'in control' or anywhere near 'in control'.




It already is messy, and while i've heard rumors of some possible-maybe-future "i think we're gonna" sparks, I have yet to even see an LED at the end of the tunnel.

I think LL's latest actions are having just the reverse result, however. Now, I'm relatively new to SL, just since the end of January, but I was initially really amazed and happy with it. I definitely didn't have any plans to go elsewhere -- one world at a time! As time is going by, various decisions and changes are making me less and less happy. With the latest circumstances, I am waiting for that alternative to show up so I can hopefully jump ship to a better platform. And how many others will do it, too? It will be like the migration from TSO that I've heard about. And, frankly, I think it sucks that it's come to this....

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Just heard about the change so trying it out to see if it's true.

Seriously, who's dumbass idea was this.