Group forum moderation

May you kindly suggest how you wish to go against the Linden rulings in this case?

Are you truly suggesting that just because the City "claims" jurisdiction over the forums, they are really able to enforce their own rules, contrary to the Linden rules?

Can a State of the USA pass legislation which contradicts federal legislation? (In Europe, it's certainly impossible to pass national legislation contradicting the European legislation, although many countries have tried to do so repeatedly...)

As I said before and restate again: I had no idea that a requirement to be a member of the SC was to be able to override the Lindens' internal rules. I admit I'm powerless to do that.

There is absolutely nothing anyone can do to prevent you from sending an email to Jeska, telling her that all moderators in these forums are "misbehaving" according to the rules that you, as the group founder and "master" forum moderator have set up (and which , and that you would like her to remove us all from moderator status.

According to the Linden rules, that's exactly what you're entitled to do; that action is not an abuse under the Linden ToS, but a perfectly reasonable request.

Neualtenburg law is absolutely powerless to prevent that from happening.

Any suggestions are naturally welcome.

Article III, Section 1 says



(eep, note the spelling error there. We need *another* consti amendment, it seems

By that argument, if we must capitulate to all Linden modes of operation, then the sim owner is in complete control of the sim and the entire government is just a sham. Remember that we agreed contractually upon joining to suspend some standard modes of Linden operation, operating the government above it. It would be up to the SC to decide when a Linden mode of operation (not a "law" mind you) is superceded by the government.

Just as the sim owner's Linden-level role in N'burg is superceded, so should the forum founder's role. By only recognizing Linden authority in regards to the forum situation, you're deligitmizing the N'burg government.

So, the solution is for me to email Jeska and ask her to remove me from the moderator's list. Bam. Problem solved.

~Ulrika~

Finally, a useful amendment!

~Ulrika~

Well, philosophical discussions on what powers nburg actually has vis-a-vis LL aside, you emailing Jeska to remove yourself from the moderator list is the easiest, and most practical solution. I think because of all this vitriol and rancor flying around, nobody has actually stepped up and asked you nicely if you would be willing to ask LL to have yourself removed from the list.

So, let me be the one to do so. Ulrika, would you please email Jeska and ask to remove yourself from the moderator list? Pretty please?

"The Scientific Council (SC) is a self-selected meritocracy. Its governmental role is to interpret and enforce the constitution. Its service roll is to resolve citizen disputes and moderate user forums and events."

This is not a typo. There was a lot of decision making in this article.
The roll referred to is in fact a Traditional German roll (Brötchen / Semmel).

Known in America as a Kaiser Roll.

Thank you for doing what the SC should have done months ago (or even last week for that matter). I have sent the email.

~Ulrika~

Kendra can you please email the Lindens to remove yourself as forum moderator and assign moderator to the current SC Dean? If you are the current SC Dean, my apologies and please disregard this message.

Maybe this should be codified in the SC somewhere when a new Dean comes onboard. This is the tradition right? Dean=Moderator or do you have the whole SC as mods? I prefer the latter myself, a SC vote could be held for controversial "moderations".

Many Thanks,

Pelanor

The whole SC.

I'll remove myself when the Dean of the SC tells me to remove myself.

Yes. I'd wait until after the hearings. Once again the government and citizens are acting in an ad-hoc fashion with little regard to due process or governmental roles. It's as if there's a direct democracy, a mob, that exists under the facade of an organized goverment.

~Ulrika~

I needed clarification from Claude to know that all SC members (by tradition, not law) are moderators of the forum. I was under the mistaken impression that only the Dean was a moderator (which is not the case).

Please disregard that request, and please do ensure that all SC members are moderators of the forum per NB tradition. Surely you don't want to be the sole moderator and viewed in NB as "Ulrika's Censor". Straighten me out, I'm just a poor dimwitted citizen squinting in your radiant enlightenment.

What is the SC procedure (is there one), when one of the moderators objects to the moderating action of another? Say, for instance, Ulrika deleting her own farewell post?

Do you vote? Do you debate? Right now, it seems very Nike (just do it). That's an argument for the Dean being the sole moderator with a process for disputed moderation actions.

My Thanks,
Pelanor

I've been easily and successfully removed as moderator. Just in time too. I was really starting to piss off Kevn.

~Ulrika~

Kevn, because, by requiring the SC to ask permission to do something as simple as removing moderator status, it means that the SC (or any other person, really) has no power at all.

It's all politics.

Anyway, thanks for removing yourself from this forum, Ulrika.

Remember, the city is built on preexisting and sometimes incompatible Linden infrastructure and procedures. A government is not weak by recognizing this, rather it is weak by not recognizing this.

Anyways, you're very much welcome. Just remember, even though my presence is currently disruptive, it is temporary and will provide closure and long-term stability for us all. Remember my proactive handling of this when we get to the really tough stuff next week.

~Ulrika~