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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
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05-05-2006 11:00
From: Dianne Mechanique If someone could convince me that she has valid concerns, that she actually believes those concerns and she actually wants to settle those concerns amicably, I for one would be at the table in a heartbeat. I think the same can likely be said of everyone in the Government although I certainly can't speak for them. Let's you and I talk about this privately then. Because I really do think her concerns are incredibly valid. My view right now --is that if everyone puts down the knives --this matter can come to a peaceful and mutually agreeable end.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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05-05-2006 11:03
From: Dianne Mechanique I have said in world to several folks, that as much as she has completely ruined my reputation, I would even give Ulrika a hug and a kiss on the cheek  if she would just stop attacking us and settle her claims amicably. There was a lot to admire in Ulrika before she became enamored with the dark side of the force.  (joke) Excellent. Here's what you have to do to knock that piracy complaint off my list. You need to publicly apologize for the unauthorized duplication of my work, remove it from your inventory and hard drive, and then resign from the SC. In return I would consider it resolved and not mention it again. Let's negotiate.  ~Ulrika~
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Pelanor Eldrich
Let's make a deal...
Join date: 8 Feb 2006
Posts: 267
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05-05-2006 11:12
From: Memir Quinn Myself I'm still terribly excited by the project and have contracted out to be a citizen for the long term. Also interested in investment opportunities in the new sim for the future growth and development of the project. ^.^ I look forward to working with both Kendra and Dianne and all else. I see bright things in the future for joint ownership and governance in this project. ^.^
Hi Memir, I'd like to formally welcome you the City. I hope we can all work together in peace and harmony for the collective success of the project. In my opinion, the future looks very bright for Neualtenburg. We have solid financials, we are expanding and I feel we have the best developed democratic governement in SL. If there's anything thing I can do to help you, please do not hesitate to email, IM, private message or drop me a notecard in world. Yours respectfully, -Pelanor Eldrich (DPU-NRA)
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Claude Desmoulins
Registered User
Join date: 1 Nov 2005
Posts: 388
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05-05-2006 11:54
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Excellent. Here's what you have to do to knock that piracy complaint off my list.... Let's negotiate.  ~Ulrika~ A similar statement of proposed resolution terms for each item on your list would be an admirable starting point.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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05-05-2006 12:07
From: Claude Desmoulins A similar statement of proposed resolution terms for each item on your list would be an admirable starting point. I had hoped the government would take some initiative themselves to resolve these problems as most only peripherally involve me. However, if you'd like me to provide a list of actions I'd pursue, if I were a member of the government still, I'd be happy to do that.  ~Ulrika~
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
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05-05-2006 12:09
From: Claude Desmoulins A similar statement of proposed resolution terms for each item on your list would be an admirable starting point. You're not supposed to invite Vampyres to step over the threshold, silly man.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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05-05-2006 13:10
Claude, as per your request, here's how I would handle these transgressions if I were a member of the government. From: someone In response to the accusation that the trial was illegal, the SC stated that foreigners are not provided due process, which is in violation of the Bill of Rights Articles 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11. As a member of the SC, I would overturn this ad-hoc decision of excluding foreigners under the UDHR, as it clearly recognizes the rights of "everyone everywhere" regardless of citizenship. I would censure the judge who attempted to exclude a class of individuals to make binding an illegal trial. From: someone There was an illegal trial that violated the constitution by denying the charged a right to trial by jury. From Article III, Section 6 of the Constitution, "Hearings and trials not involving government officials will be overseen by a single Professor and judgment will be decided by a jury of peers." Upon recognizing that foreigners are guaranteed due process, the trial would be illegal and invalid. If I were in the SC, I would censure the judges responsible for not following the constitution and for attempting to justify the mistake by misinterpreting the bill of rights. I would also censure at least one judge for the obvious bias against the defendant seen in the transcripts. Finally, I would then reschedule a hearing to see if there is sufficient cause for a legal trial, minus the censured judges. From: someone The sentence is extreme in that its duration is without limit and its discussion was not present in the transcripts. I would further censure all judges who participated in the trial for failing to provide a transcript of the discussions on sentencing. I would additionally censure those responsible for issuing an indefinite sentence and ask for a clear cut definition on when a ban can be issued (it must be applied universally to citizens and foreigners) and ask if this sentence met that criteria. From: someone Two N'burg government (Dianne, Sudane) officials have engaged in and supported the unauthorized reproduction and distribution (piracy) of the work of others. Detailed documentation with screenshots and quotes can be found here. Unlike the written censures for the transgressions above, as a member of the SC, I would ask the two officials involved in their transgressions to remove the offending material and step down from their governmental positions, as it is unacceptable for the GM to promote and support pirating and it is unacceptable for a judge to engage in the practice. If they refused to do so, I would go to trial and seek impeachment. In the trial I would also seek for the offending material to be removed and an apology from all issued. I would also request that the RA pass an antipiracy bill to act as a deterrent for future transgressions. From: someone Three N'burg government officials (Dianne, Aliasi, and Sudane), one of whom admits to not recognizing the government, violated law N 3-10 by reverse engineering and deleting historic city structures without RA approval. As a member of the SC, I would issue a censure for members of the SC for failing to enforce N 3-10. I would then hold a hearing with a trial to follow, probably issuing monetary fines for the transgressions. After all that we can redo my trial and this time do it right. The key to justice is the uniform application of the law to all, not just those you wanna git. ~Ulrika~
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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05-05-2006 13:42
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Excellent. Here's what you have to do to knock that piracy complaint off my list. You need to publicly apologize for the unauthorized duplication of my work, remove it from your inventory and hard drive, and then resign from the SC. In return I would consider it resolved and not mention it again. Let's negotiate.  ... ha-hah-ha What a troll you are. Nice try though.  So, you want me to cave in, agree entirely to every single point of your particular interpretation of the events (previous to a fact finding hearing) on the matter, take all the blame on myself personally, and resign my job and that is a "negotiation?" I don't even accept that I personally did anything here, let alone anything wrong. Right When I said I would be willing to "forget about it" and kiss your cheek I meant the one on your face dear, not your bum.  Why don't you just settle your IP claim and move on? That's what I meant.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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05-05-2006 13:53
Taking screenshots of complex textures and using them to reproduce another person's hard work in SL is unethical. Your failure to take responsibility for your transgressions is weakness of character. You're not fit to be in the SC.
~Ulrika~
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,422
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05-05-2006 14:26
Dianne is exactly who we want in the SC. She is thoughtful and fair in all her dealings in N'burg as far as I have seen. In fact, not a single officer currently holding office has treated me unfairly. Only one person ever abused her authority in N'burg that I know of. She admitted it after the facts forced her to admit she broke every law that suited her. The only reason I became a citizen was because now I feel as though the government is responsive and not run by one rouge dictator. It feels fresh and new now, things are looking much better. Everyone is happy and kind. This is what a collective should be about, not someone trying to force a group to do as she wishes. The people rule, as it should be. Long live democracy! 
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
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05-05-2006 15:35
From: Kevn Klein The only reason I became a citizen was because now I feel as though the government is responsive and not run by one rouge dictator. Look out!!!!! It's the rouge dictator!!!!! 
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