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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 08:21
THE STAND (aka the Rules)


PART I. OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO YOU

1. We support and promote free speech, equality, and lively discussion; therefore we provide a forum that is open to all; there are no membership requirements or qualifications. We do not discriminate on the basis of philosophical, political, or religious affiliation or opinion.

2. We respect your privacy. We will never divulge your personal information to anyone or any organization for any reason. If another member discloses your personal information, please notify us immediately

3. We will never censor, alter, or remove your posts as long as you adhere to the four simple rules in Parts II and III below.

PART II. YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO US

1. Spamming/flooding the board will result in the immediate revocation of membership privileges*.


PART III. YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO EACH OTHER

1. Physical threats against and/or private message (PM) harassment of another member will result in the immediate reporting of the incident to LL.

2. Personal attacks and insults directed at another member will result in hard deletion of posts. Attack the opinion, not the individual.

3. Racist/sexist/homophobic/intolerant posts will be deleted.

*membership priveledges being ability to post to this forum


Thank you,
Kendra Bancroft
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 08:57
I don't accept your authority. As a citizen of N'burg I request the SC block these stickies, as they are being posted by a non-citizen on N'burg.
Joy Honey
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06-02-2006 09:02
Kevn, the CITY is a different entity than the PROJEKT, according to this post. Try reading posts before responding to them... :rolleyes:
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 09:02
From: Kevn Klein
I don't accept your authority. As a citizen of N'burg I request the SC block these stickies, as they are being posted by a non-citizen on N'burg.



This is no longer the forum of the "City".

Your City's forum has been moved to their website.

This forum is operated by "The Neualtenburg Projekt".
Your Scientic Council would be acting with no authority here in much the same manner as they rightly determined that Ulrika acted with no authority previously.

I don't swim in your ocean. Please don't pee in my pool.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 09:04
From: Joy Honey
Kevn, the CITY changed its name, according to this post. Try reading posts before responding to them... :rolleyes:



I beleve there new name is Colonia Nova, but I could be mistaken.

They lost the rights to be called Neualtenburg when they unilaterally ended negotions with the copyright holder of that name.
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:12
From: Kendra Bancroft
I beleve there new name is Colonia Nova, but I could be mistaken.

They lost the rights to be called Neualtenburg when they unilaterally ended negotions with the copyright holder of that name.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

How do I copyright a name, title, slogan or logo?
Copyright does not protect names, titles, slogans, or short phrases. In some cases, these things may be protected as trademarks. Contact the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office, 800-786-9199, for further information. However, copyright protection may be available for logo artwork that contains sufficient authorship. In some circumstances, an artistic logo may also be protected as a trademark.
Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:14
From: Joy Honey
Kevn, the CITY is a different entity than the PROJEKT, according to this post. Try reading posts before responding to them... :rolleyes:

Wrong. This forum is controlled by the City gov. according to the constitution agreed to by Ulrika and Kendra.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 09:16
From: Kevn Klein
Wrong. This forum is controlled by the City gov. according to the constitution agreed to be Ulrika and Kendra.



wrongo. Your Constitution gives authority for the SC to moderate the official forum of your city. This is not that.

The Neualtenburg Projekt has noting to do with "Colonia Nova" or "Fred" or whatever you decide to rename it.
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:20
From: Kendra Bancroft
wrongo. Your Constitution gives authority for the SC to moderate the official forum of your city. This is not that.

The Neualtenburg Projekt has noting to do with "Colonia Nova" or "Fred" or whatever you decide to rename it.

The constitution you agreed to names this forum as the one controlled by the city.
Joy Honey
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06-02-2006 09:20
From: Kevn Klein
Wrong. This forum is controlled by the City gov. according to the constitution agreed to by Ulrika and Kendra.


Wrong, the City moved their "official" forums. I'm rather surprised you haven't been there yet...

EDIT*** http://forums.neualtenburg.info/

It even says "Official Forums for the City of Neualtenburg"
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:24
From: Joy Honey
Wrong, the City moved their "official" forums. I'm rather surprised you haven't been there yet...

Has the constitution been changed to remove this forum from it?
Joy Honey
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06-02-2006 09:26
From: Kevn Klein
Has the constitution been changed to remove this forum from it?


Apparently, someone decided they didn't need to do anything about the constitution, since it appears the SC decided to move the forums from here to the above mentioned url with little to no public discussion.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 09:27
From: Kevn Klein
The constitution you agreed to names this forum as the one controlled by the city.



I don't particularly care, Kevn.

Now please take your negativity elsewhere.

THIS forum is about the future of the Projekt, and all in all I think I've been quite gracious about your City's actions yesterday.
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:31
From: Kendra Bancroft
I don't particularly care, Kevn.

Now please take your negativity elsewhere.

THIS forum is about the future of the Projekt, and all in all I think I've been quite gracious about your City's actions yesterday.

I think you should resign as moderator since you are no longer associated with N'burg in any way. At the very least your posts should be blocked and removed until this is settled by LL. Of course, I'm not talking about your general posts, just the stickies and posts suggesting you have a claim to this forum over all other mods.
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06-02-2006 09:34
From: Kevn Klein
I don't accept your authority. As a citizen of N'burg I request the SC block these stickies, as they are being posted by a non-citizen on N'burg.
No names have been changed in order to protect the innocent. Angels protect the innocent as a matter of Heavenly routine.
Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 09:35
From: Introvert Petunia
No names have been changed in order to protect the innocent. Angels protect the innocent as a matter of Heavenly routine.

Amen sister!
Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 09:41
From: Kevn Klein
I think you should resign as moderator since you are no longer associated with N'burg in any way. At the very least your posts should be blocked and removed until this is settled by LL. Of course, I'm not talking about your general posts, just the stickies and posts suggesting you have a claim to this forum over all other mods.


I started this forum, Kevn.

This is no longer the forum of your city as defined by your constitution.

"Article III - The Philosophic Branch

Section 1 - The Scientific Council

The Scientific Council (SC) is a self-selected meritocracy. Its governmental role is to interpret and enforce the constitution. Its service roll is to resolve citizen disputes and moderate user forums and events."

This forum belongs to The Neualtenburg Projekt. Not to your City/Sim.
Your thoughts at my resigning as moderator from the Projekt's forum have no basis.

In fact --Your Constitution has no basis here. I have requested the Lindens remove the moderators from your City, and frankly as they have now their own Official Forum for their Cty they no longer require the use of The Projekt's Forum.

Your actions indicate to me that you wish me silenced.

I am silencing nobody.

Any of your City's citizens or Government Officials are perfectly free to post here as long as they abide by the rules laid out in "The Stand" and do not make false announcements as to the staus of The Projekt's Forum.
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Dianne Mechanique
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06-02-2006 10:01
Just for the record ...

Personally, I will not be deleting posts in this forum under the authority of the official sticky posted earlier by the SC until the issue of ownership is a little clearer. I do not speak for the SC when I say that, it's just my personal decision based on my own personal comfort level.

As long as I am a moderator though and as long as I have the ability to do so, I will be deleting posts that are personal attacks, lies etc. like the thread Ulrika started earlier and all future ones (besides that one), I will be AR'ing as well. That's just a fair warning.

I will also be AR'ing Ulrika in world (as soon as I can get there) for the deletion of the City walls that I made (if it's true that she did that), and whatever else she may have done that deserves such action.
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Kevn Klein
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06-02-2006 10:10
This forum has never discussed project issues other than the city that I have seen, so I have no idea what you are talking about. If LL removes them (SC members) from mod status I'll remove this forum from my favorites list. I see no project activities other that the city or some future plans you are making after another "announcement" of your pending departure.

If you succeed, this forum is history. Don't be like Ulrika and cut off your nose to spite your face.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 10:22
From: Dianne Mechanique
Just for the record ...

Personally, I will not be deleting posts in this forum under the authority of the official sticky posted earlier by the SC until the issue of ownership is a little clearer. I do not speak for the SC when I say that, it's just my personal decision based on my own personal comfort level.

As long as I am a moderator though and as long as I have the ability to do so, I will be deleting posts that are personal attacks, lies etc. like the thread Ulrika started earlier and all future ones (besides that one), I will be AR'ing as well. That's just a fair warning.

I will also be AR'ing Ulrika in world (as soon as I can get there) for the deletion of the City walls that I made (if it's true that she did that), and whatever else she may have done that deserves such action.


You may report them to mje and I will decide if they are attacks. Any deletions on your part are overstepping your rightful role here.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 10:24
From: Kevn Klein
This forum has never discussed project issues other than the city that I have seen, so I have no idea what you are talking about. If LL removes them (SC members) from mod status I'll remove this forum from my favorites list. I see no project activities other that the city or some future plans you are making after another "announcement" of your pending departure.

If you succeed, this forum is history. Don't be like Ulrika and cut off your nose to spite your face.



I would be quite proud to be considered like Ulrika. Thank you.
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Dianne Mechanique
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06-02-2006 11:01
From: Kendra Bancroft
You may report them to mje and I will decide if they are attacks. Any deletions on your part are overstepping your rightful role here.
I consider the roles of everyone to be currently in question, so I am erring on the side of caution and doing my best to do nothing at all.

- If attacked however I will defend myself with whatever tools I have.
- If Ulrika continues her attacks on other citizens or government officials of Neualtenburg I will do the same.

The reason I would do so is that everyone deserves the right not to be harassed and to have the rule of law. That is why I am a member of the SC in the first place. In this particular situation, if someone is being harassed by Ulrika it is my opinion that they currently have no other recourse than the likes of me or perhaps other members of the SC to defend them.

I consider it my duty to defend the citizens of Neualtenburg as a member of the SC from that kind of harassment. I consider it my duty as a Mentor and Greeter to do the same for any citizen of Second Life. Duty is not a very popular concept nowadays, but to me it is important.

The reasons why I think I am their only recourse are twofold:

1) IMO as a forum moderator you have historically shown a clear bias towards not reporting personal attacks made by Ulrika, and towards supporting her personal attacks against others. I believe you believed that were acting mostly in good faith when you did so, and not necessarily maliciously but the bias is crystal clear (to me), in any case.

2) Linden Lab has shown that they will not punish or halt the constant attacks that Ulrika makes. It's almost as if those silly rumours of her having the Lindens "in her pocket" and being immune to AR's are true.

I think most of us are actually acting in good faith and doing our best to do the things we believe in. Again, IMO, other than Ulrika, the only people who are behaving hypocritically here and should be truly ashamed of their behavior is Linden Lab.

I consider the entire series of recent events to be rather appalling but I would pick our LL's failure to act against Ulrika as particularly so. To be complicit in the abuse of residents by allowing anyone special privileges to harass them in the forums is beyond the pale for a company that prides themselves on tolerance and supporting community.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 11:25
From: Dianne Mechanique
I consider the roles of everyone to be currently in question, so I am erring on the side of caution and doing my best to do nothing at all.

- If attacked however I will defend myself with whatever tools I have.
- If Ulrika continues her attacks on other citizens or government officials of Neualtenburg I will do the same.

The reason I would do so is that everyone deserves the right not to be harassed and to have the rule of law. That is why I am a member of the SC in the first place. In this particular situation, if someone is being harassed by Ulrika it is my opinion that they currently have no other recourse than the likes of me or perhaps other members of the SC to defend them.

I consider it my duty to defend the citizens of Neualtenburg as a member of the SC from that kind of harassment. I consider it my duty as a Mentor and Greeter to do the same for any citizen of Second Life. Duty is not a very popular concept nowadays, but to me it is important.

The reasons why I think I am their only recourse are twofold:

1) IMO as a forum moderator you have historically shown a clear bias towards not reporting personal attacks made by Ulrika, and towards supporting her personal attacks against others. I believe you believed that were acting mostly in good faith when you did so, and not necessarily maliciously but the bias is crystal clear (to me), in any case.

2) Linden Lab has shown that they will not punish or halt the constant attacks that Ulrika makes. It's almost as if those silly rumours of her having the Lindens "in her pocket" and being immune to AR's are true.

I think most of us are actually acting in good faith and doing our best to do the things we believe in. Again, IMO, other than Ulrika, the only people who are behaving hypocritically here and should be truly ashamed of their behavior is Linden Lab.

I consider the entire series of recent events to be rather appalling but I would pick our LL's failure to act against Ulrika as particularly so. To be complicit in the abuse of residents by allowing anyone special privileges to harass them in the forums is beyond the pale for a company that prides themselves on tolerance and supporting community.





If anyone attacks anyone, their posts will be deleted by me (the moderator de-jure). That includes your posts, Ulrika's posts , and the Pope should he decide to post on the Projekt Forums.

The official positions of your City concern me as much as the official positions of any SL City. You have no more rights to act as moderator on these forums then someone from Caledonia. Though, I have no reason to suspect that Caledonians would show such disrespect to these forums as have the actions of your Governmental branch yesterday.

Quite simply, Dianne --you will always be welcome to post here if you follow the rukes laid out in "The Stand" but you have no authority to moderate here.
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