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Dana Hickman
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06-08-2008 15:06
From: Domino Marama
Select Multires level 1 and try again ;)

Lmao.. yes I know. Took me an hour and 3 tutorials to find where to set that (because I'm stupid and never have to use that panel anyway).
Thanks
Derin Swenson
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06-11-2008 16:07
greetings :)

I made an object using the sculptie mesh for cylinder, I did not change any of the vertices and when it came time to bake, in edit mode with all the vertices selected, I chose the Render - Bake Second Life Sculpties. What happens next fro what I can see in the UV/image editor window is that it runs through the script and it even flashes a finished sculptie map BUT it goes away then. in the command window it gives me the llSetPrimParameter and tells me the time to bake but the sculptie map is no longer in my UV/image editor window.

Anyone run into this? my blender version is 2.46 from the foundation site and my python installation is 2.5.

Thanks
Raz Welles
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06-11-2008 16:58
If you're in edit mode when you hit renderbake- try instead baking in object mode. :) Hope that helps!
Jasperodus Ulysses
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06-11-2008 18:05
I was about to say the same thing. It's happened to me several times [I'm totally new to blender], and it seems that's what I was doing wrong. I must remember to whack the TAB key before going to the Render menu to render the Sculptie.
Derin Swenson
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06-11-2008 19:46
ok that worked, I could have swore I tried that, but it worked. Thanks for the reply :)
Gaia Clary
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06-12-2008 00:21
From: Derin Swenson
...but the sculptie map is no longer in my UV/image editor window.
Just for completeness: after you baked in edit-mode, although the sculpt-map is not visible at the moment, you still can find it in the image selector box of the UV-editor. dependend on the sculpt type you find the sculpt map under the name "Cylinder", "Sphere", "Torus" or "Plane". When you go to Object mode before baking, the image will popup and (much more convenient) keep visible in the UV-editor though.

@Domino: Is it possible to modify the scripts, so that the sculpt map also keeps visible in edit mode ?
whyroc Slade
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06-12-2008 00:54
This is part of the Blender workflow.. typically you would bake the whole scene at once in object mode after setting up a uv and image for each object in edit mode. When baking is finished go back to edit mode for each object and save the results, also pack them if you want to keep them in the scene.


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Domino Marama
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06-12-2008 02:01
From: Gaia Clary
Just for completeness: after you baked in edit-mode, although the sculpt-map is not visible at the moment, you still can find it in the image selector box of the UV-editor. dependend on the sculpt type you find the sculpt map under the name "Cylinder", "Sphere", "Torus" or "Plane".


It will actually be named the same as the object, so if you rename the sculptie objects before baking, it will have a different name than the defaults for each type.

From: Gaia Clary
@Domino: Is it possible to modify the scripts, so that the sculpt map also keeps visible in edit mode ?


To keep it visible in edit mode, I'd have to assign the sculptie map to the UV faces. Earlier versions of the scripts did that, but I removed it as now the UV faces are available for the texture. This is to pave the way for a fuller export which will bake the sculpties, save them, save the textures and a text file which a builder in Second Life will use to recreate the linkset.

It may be that I'll need to add a second UV map for more advanced texturing options, but assigning the image there still wouldn't guarantee that it would show, it would depend on which UV map you had selected.

There's also the problem with multiple sculpties, only the last to be baked is shown which is not neccessarily the active object.

Overall I think this is one that is best fixed by education rather than scripting as there are too many corner cases where the expected behaviour might not happen and forcing the behaviour would have a detrimental effect on other parts of the work flow such as texturing.
Gaia Clary
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mirror modifier sometimes destroys sculptmap
06-17-2008 16:05
Hi.

I stumbled over an effect, which i can't explain. So i ask here ;-)

i take a sculptie, which should become absolutely symetric along one axis. So i remove
one half of the vertices, then create a mirror modifier, choose the correct mirror axis and
then bake the sculptie. I often end up in parts of the UV-map becoming black. I also found, that i sometimes can get rid of the effect by simply rotating the object by 90 degrees on one axis. And sometimes i cant get it to work at all.

I thought i have understood the role of the buttons "mirror U" and "mirror V". But meanwhile i have the strong feeling, that there is another hidden concept, which i simply don't see ;-(

So , any light here would be helpfull ...
River Brandes
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2.46 issues
06-17-2008 23:36
Hi Domino, I have DLed your files and looked throught a lot of tutorials, but I get stuck at the same point everytime. I have blender 2.46 and it seems like they don't have the uv face select mode in the drop-down list. I reinstalled and there is nothing on blender's site that addresses this. Am I missing something? is the UV face select mode supposed to be DLed seperately? IT's frustranting me


Any help from anyone would be appreciated. thank you!


EDIT:

So I looked around and apparently in version 2.46 the UV face mode has been integrated into the edit mode. I bought whyroc Slade's tutorials, which has a step in the baking process that calls for the user to enter UV face mode. Being a newbie, I don't know how to get around it, and the UV map doesn't end up being completed. Again, any insight would be great. Thank you! :)
Domino Marama
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06-18-2008 01:52
From: Gaia Clary
I thought i have understood the role of the buttons "mirror U" and "mirror V". But meanwhile i have the strong feeling, that there is another hidden concept, which i simply don't see ;-(

So , any light here would be helpfull ...


Sounds like you are deleting the wrong half of the sculptie. I covered this on page 15 of this thread so it's worth reading the later posts on that page again. Basically, as the sculptie's are added from top view, the Y axis is the one to use as a mirror. If you deleted half on X axis, then the remaining portions of the UV map (either a centre stripe or two edge stripes) overlay themselves when mirrored. So you need to delete the right part of the mesh to get a mirrorable UV map.


River, if you have a UV Image Editor window open, then any faces you select in Edit mode will show up the same as they used to in UV Face Editor. Go to Object mode before doing the Bake - Second Life Sculpties step.
whyroc Slade
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06-18-2008 03:07
hi Domino.. your amazing scripts keep getting better! TY!

I had a question about the console information that is being spit out when the bake script is used.. Is this in a log file somewhere too? Sorry if it has been mentionned already:)

From our discussions I gather that this will be a key element in the complete Blender to SL workflow we were talking about, only thing I cant find where the file if any is being stored..

Thanks,

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Domino Marama
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06-18-2008 05:15
From: whyroc Slade
I had a question about the console information that is being spit out when the bake script is used.. Is this in a log file somewhere too? Sorry if it has been mentionned already:)


Not yet. This will be what the next script adds feature wise. I think the initial versions will use my own builder format. Paying work is taking priority at the moment but I hope to make time for it soon.
Gaia Clary
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06-21-2008 06:37
From: Domino Marama
I covered this on page 15 of this thread so it's worth reading the later posts on that page again. Basically, as the sculptie's are added from top view, the Y axis is the one to use as a mirror.
Thank you for this hint. I should have read the complete thread before asking ;-( Maybe it is a good idea to summarize the thread and create a full documentation with tips and tricks and FAQ ? I'd like to volunteer and make such a doc available through our blog. Or does it allready exist somewhere ? Any more advises/complains/wishes around ?
Domino Marama
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06-21-2008 07:14
From: Gaia Clary
Thank you for this hint. I should have read the complete thread before asking ;-( Maybe it is a good idea to summarize the thread and create a full documentation with tips and tricks and FAQ ? I'd like to volunteer and make such a doc available through our blog. Or does it allready exist somewhere ? Any more advises/complains/wishes around ?


Some of the thread is outdated, but there's still a lot of useful tips in there. Sooner or later I will be doing a complete set of official documentation which will be hosted on my site. If you want to get involved with that great :) Though I should point out it's a none paying job, the donations I get don't even cover my time on the scripts let alone anyone else. Any parts you contribute will be with full credit and links to your site, and I'm happy to help plan and edit things.
Welleran Kanto
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06-21-2008 07:45
From: whyroc Slade
hi Domino.. your amazing scripts keep getting better! TY!

I had a question about the console information that is being spit out when the bake script is used.. Is this in a log file somewhere too? Sorry if it has been mentionned already:)


I'm glad you mentioned the console, because I've been meaning to ask how Mac OSX users can get access to this console you're talking about. On the Mac version of blender, no console comes up when blender starts, and I don't see a way to get to one.
Domino Marama
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06-21-2008 08:26
From: Welleran Kanto
I'm glad you mentioned the console, because I've been meaning to ask how Mac OSX users can get access to this console you're talking about. On the Mac version of blender, no console comes up when blender starts, and I don't see a way to get to one.


You can find the console log on a Mac in /Applications/Utilities/console
Welleran Kanto
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06-21-2008 09:04
From: Domino Marama
You can find the console log on a Mac in /Applications/Utilities/console


Awesome! Thanks, I see the blender output there now.
Derin Swenson
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06-21-2008 13:43
Hola :)

I have another question. First off I wish to heap on my own praise at these incredibly useful scripts. I started sculpting using hte manual way of getting the UV map for my models, but I always ran into more problems than not when it came to translating them from model to sculptie. The bake script saves alot of time and the base sculptie meshes you provide are an excellent basis to start my models.

So I have my meshes and UV textures but I need to create surface texturs. I found an excellent tutorial on how to do this for SL sculpties but I can't follow it. Each time I attempt to follow a step I continue to get errors in the UV/image edor because the sculptie is multitire. Is there a setting I can provide that allwos the manipulation of the verties in the UV/image editor window with multitire in use? Or is there a technique I do not know of that people use to get around multitires to create surface textures as in the tutorial?

Tutorial link http://blog.machinimatrix.org/2008/05/12/blender-surface-textures/

I ask herecause it is the scripts and meshes Dominos provide so wondering how others accomplish this when the usethem.
Gaia Clary
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06-21-2008 14:56
From: Derin Swenson
Is there a setting I can provide that allwos the manipulation of the verties in the UV/image editor window with multitire in use? Or is there a technique I do not know of that people use to get around multitires to create surface textures as in the tutorial?

Tutorial link http://blog.machinimatrix.org/2008/05/12/blender-surface-textures/

I ask herecause it is the scripts and meshes Dominos provide so wondering how others accomplish this when the usethem.
I just checked what happens in my blender environment and i found indeed, that multires gets in my way too. When we created the video, we did it on blender 2.45 and maybe we used an older version of the scripts, which did not yet have multires enabled... This is a major issue then. But the workaround i found is simple:

go to the multires tab and then click on "apply multires". Now multires is gone, but you can edit the verts in UV-mode...

Maybe there is a better solution, then i'd be glad to hear about it. I will now go back to the lab and remake the video for blender 2.46 and Domino's newest scripts. You may expect an update within the next week...
Domino Marama
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06-21-2008 15:46
From: Derin Swenson
Each time I attempt to follow a step I continue to get errors in the UV/image editor because the sculptie is multitires.


If you need to edit the UV map for a multires model, change to multires level 1.

For finer work, you can apply the multires as suggested by Gaia :)
Derin Swenson
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06-21-2008 18:13
thanks :) I will try to apply the multitires.

@Dominos: I had tried to reduce the multitires down to level 1 but the extent of my manipulation of the mesh some of the vertices were still in the box which doesn't work when you attempt to do the surface texture tutorial.

I will tr to apply the multitires, will update to see if that worked, thanks :)
Derin Swenson
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06-21-2008 19:08
applying the multitires worked out great, thanks :)

I'm not sure what other thread to post this on but this is further help for the tutorial I am following for the surface texture and since I started it here can you help me gaia or can someone post the thread where this would be appropriate.

I am at the part where you:

"UV -> scripts -> save UV face layout"

my image in the UV editor looks like the first image provide.....the second image is what it shows.
Gaia Clary
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06-22-2008 01:04
From: Derin Swenson

"UV -> scripts -> save UV face layout"

my image in the UV editor looks like the first image provide.....the second image is what it shows.
The secnd image is the UV-face layout of the sculptie itself. I checked in blender, and i could not reproduce your reported effect. Make sure, that you call "save UV face layout" while you see the correct layout image in the layout editor. After exporting it, it should be named somethig like "<yourFilename>_Sphere.tga" Somehow blender has its own ideas about how to name a file ;-)

While this thread is more about the scripts and script usage, i think, your question would better fit into either a new thread e.g. something like: "how to texturize with blender", or into my video tutorial thread:

/8/75/257428/1.html

But i guess, its ok here in this thread too ;-)
Derin Swenson
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06-22-2008 12:14
From: Gaia Clary
The secnd image is the UV-face layout of the sculptie itself. I checked in blender, and i could not reproduce your reported effect. Make sure, that you call "save UV face layout" while you see the correct layout image in the layout editor. After exporting it, it should be named somethig like "<yourFilename>_Sphere.tga" Somehow blender has its own ideas about how to name a file ;-)

While this thread is more about the scripts and script usage, i think, your question would better fit into either a new thread e.g. something like: "how to texturize with blender", or into my video tutorial thread:

/8/75/257428/1.html

But i guess, its ok here in this thread too ;-)


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