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NoteCard Deployment Service

Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
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12-31-2003 04:14
Hi,

I have a system to automatically deploy notecards to dispensers throughout the world! I remember reading the other day about some people who would be interested in this, so here it is, its available!

The way this works is: you provide me with the name(s) of the notecards you want to update, and the locations. You can drop the updated notecard into a single central box, and it will be distributed autoatically to all your dispensers!

You will need to add a module to your dispensers to archive the old notecard and to make the object known to the deployment services.

The charge for this service for each deployment configuration is:
- setup fee of L$20000 (or 20USD), plus
- L$3000 (or 3USD) per month

Disclaimer: this post is not contractual. Prices and service can change.

Azelda
Maxx Monde
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12-31-2003 04:57
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Azelda Garcia
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12-31-2003 05:07

Lance LeFay
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01-08-2004 13:12
And the difference between this and your script deployment service is....?


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Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
Posts: 819
01-08-2004 13:43
> And the difference between this and your script deployment service is....?

It costs less and it works.
Julia Curie
Senior Member
Join date: 1 Nov 2003
Posts: 298
01-08-2004 14:05
Question. Is it really that hard to place a notecard giver script down on the ground in a box/object and set a huge distance on it? I've been doing it for a while now with my shop. I understand yours is worldwide but how is it any different? I havent tried how far it goes but still the thought of it costing so much for something so simple makes me want to find out now.


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Daemioth Sklar
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Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 944
01-08-2004 14:05
If I understand what "notecard deployment" means, then I'm one of the (few, apparently) people who don't particularly enjoy it. It's starting to feel like pop-ups, flying through sims and recieving notecards without my asking. I really liked the "help" contraptions that handed out notecards when you clicked on them. This automatic 'take my advertisement, you've no say against it' thing is on my nerves.
Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
Posts: 819
01-08-2004 14:41
Ok, it's because someone posted a couple of months ago saying that he had a lot of notecard dispensers throughout the world and he'd like an easy way of updating them without having to fly around each time. I did a quick forum search but I cant find a good combination of search terms to get his exact post, but its there somewhere, about 2 months ago.

Anyway, the system will do the flying around for you, which seems like a nice service, if you have a lot of dispensers and want to update them often.

Of course you could write your own system to do it but then you have less time to do other stuff, like drink beer.

Azelda
Lance LeFay
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01-08-2004 16:33
From: someone
Originally posted by Azelda Garcia
> And the difference between this and your script deployment service is....?

It costs less and it works.


What I was SAYING, Azelda, was that its the same exact thing. Literally.
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Bosozoku Kato
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Join date: 16 Jun 2003
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01-09-2004 02:28
From: someone
Originally posted by Lance LeFay
What I was SAYING, Azelda, was that its the same exact thing. Literally.


Not exactly, if he's checking how he updates scripts, notecards, etc. My hunch is you can't update a notecard with his script updater, and vs.vs.

My $0.02, it's a nice idea for a service. Price is way too high. Utility/user-demand for said service is, imo, extremely low.

Keep trying Azelda. I applaud ambition, although I don't quite applaud your pricing. Much too pricy for something that isn't that complicated nor practical (else I'm sure you would have seen this sort of system widespread already). Of course this is my own opinion, of which you're free to ignore.

Bos
Bosozoku Kato
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01-09-2004 02:31
Btw, I should add that this forum is for projects, eg: "let's get together and create a themed build. Group effort, etc etc.

I think posts offering services are better placed into the General forum, or perhaps even the scripting forum.

Bos
Jack Digeridoo
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Join date: 29 Jul 2003
Posts: 1,170
01-09-2004 07:34
Yes this is a great idea but way, way, WAY too expensive.

Something like this could be scripted in a weekend.
Alondria LeFay
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Join date: 2 May 2003
Posts: 725
01-10-2004 21:16
Yikes. For 20k, I'll write a copy of a distribution code and give you full rights to it.

But, if the price was a bit saner, it would be a rather nifty service. Perhaps $1000/month with a $2000 setup? But still
Azelda, nice service. :)
Azelda Garcia
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04-09-2004 01:17
Hi, quick thread bump...

Azelda
Mac Beach
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Join date: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 458
04-09-2004 05:56
From: someone
Originally posted by Daemioth Sklar
If I understand what "notecard deployment" means, then I'm one of the (few, apparently) people who don't particularly enjoy it. It's starting to feel like pop-ups, flying through sims and recieving notecards without my asking. I really liked the "help" contraptions that handed out notecards when you clicked on them. This automatic 'take my advertisement, you've no say against it' thing is on my nerves.
Well, since the thread got bumped, I'll second the notion that most people don't want to be bothered with these pop-ups.

Clue for would-be SL magnates: Create a product or service that people actually want and your customers will find YOU. No need to spam anyone who fly's near your property.

How long before every nifty feature added to SL has to have a way to disable it so as to avoid abuse?
Cashmere Falcone
Prim Manipulator
Join date: 21 Apr 2004
Posts: 185
05-20-2004 04:08
<furiously sets to work writing a Pop-Up Blocker for SL> fee for this service will be free :P
Grim Lupis
Dark Wolf
Join date: 11 Jul 2003
Posts: 762
05-20-2004 09:24
From: someone
Originally posted by Mac Beach
Well, since the thread got bumped, I'll second the notion that most people don't want to be bothered with these pop-ups.


Since it got bumped, again, I'll third that.

It's always been annoying. It's almost as annoying as the fly-by cardings of last summer.
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Azelda Garcia
Azelda Garcia
Join date: 3 Nov 2003
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05-21-2004 09:02
The notecard deployment service is for people with notecard dispensers scattered on multiple locations throughout the world.

Up until this service, the only way of updating the notecard in each dispenser was to manually fly around to each dispenser, delete the old notecard, and drop the new notecard in. Tedious and time-consuming.

This service saves time and tedium creating you positive construction time with which to build your dreams.

Azelda
Princess Medici
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05-21-2004 09:15
IMHO, I dont' think it saves anything at that price.
Grim Lupis
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05-21-2004 09:17
Besides, it simply PROMOTES notecard spam.

You have to realize that is going to make it highly unpopular.
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Azelda Garcia
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05-23-2004 06:26
Lindens use notecard dispensers. Most contendors in the game dev competition uses at least one notecard dispenser.

A notecard dispenser is a Help Station, no more or less.

The deployment is to get notecards *into* the dispensers, not to get them from the dispensers into the avatars :-O

Just as background info, the time to write a script that dispenses notecards to avatars is about 5 minutes.

The time to write a script that dispenses notecards to help stations located throughout the world is considerably longer: you actually gotta have an automatically-guided vehicle that flies out to every Help station physically. That's a lot of work, and the prices here are just fine.

Note that the L$ gained a lot of value since the original post. 20USD is currently L$5000. 3USD is currently L$750. The usd prices are the reference.

Azelda
Sunder Wheeling
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Join date: 19 May 2004
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05-24-2004 06:56
So you are then charging 80 $USD for this service? that is rather steep, AFAIAC... Why not reduce it to something like a L$ 5000 setup and L$ 500 (or less) a month? You could get a lot more people to do it, if they were into the whole ad-bombardment thing. I don't know much about it, though. I spend as much time as possible just building in the Cordova Sandbox.
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
05-24-2004 07:21
From: someone
Originally posted by Sunder Wheeling
You could get a lot more people to do it, if they were into the whole ad-bombardment thing.


Grrrrr! Am I missing something here? Why can't anyone seem to grasp the concept from that clear, concise description in the initial post?!

A number of people in this thread have talked about spam, popups, ad bombardment. Even after Azelda explained it.

This deployment service is none of the above... unless the person buying the service decides to use it for such by including it in a device that automatically dispenses notecards to avatars in sensor range, and if they do, you damned well can't hold Azelda responsible for that!

The deployment service simply puts a notecard in an object. Plain and simple. This particular service can put one in an object anywhere in the world for you.

E.G. You own 50 vendors throughout Second Life. You want to update the help file or adjust the prices for all your items. You can walk round and change the help notecard and price notecard in all 50 manually, or you can employ Azelda's little wizzy robot bug thing to go do it for you. It's as simple as that.

So stop talking about it like it's the spawn of the devil or something. It isn't even what you obviously think it is anyway!

:p
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Francis Chung
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05-24-2004 10:06
L$5000 is quite a fair price, if you find that you have a need for this service.

The amount of effort required to build an equivalent system is significantly greater than L$5k. If I had a need for this service, I would unhesitatingly pay that. It's not worth the hassle of building it from scratch.

Also, this requires a level of technical sophistication beyond that of the average scripter. You're not just paying for someone's time, you're paying them for their talent.
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Alondria LeFay
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05-25-2004 06:02
From: someone
Originally posted by Kris Ritter

E.G. You own 50 vendors throughout Second Life. You want to update the help file or adjust the prices for all your items. You can walk round and change the help notecard and price notecard in all 50 manually, or you can employ Azelda's little wizzy robot bug thing to go do it for you. It's as simple as that.


To update vendor price lists, etc. there is much simpler and quicker ways to do this. Since a script can read a notecard by reference, all you need is to get the UUID of the price notecard to the 50 vendors around the world, which is much simpler than physically giving the object the notecard.

To physically distribute a notecard, that is definately a pain, especially now that the world is so large, and growing by the week. I would not personally even want to attempt to get a flightpath script working in LSL now (the last time I did was about 6 months ago, and even then, when the world was about a 1/4 of the size, it required multiple scripts to hold the data). Does the money involved warrent the pain in the butt level to create now, well, yes, probably, especially if it is in LSL. The main question perhaps is whether the demand for the service warrents the price. I doubt the ability to make more money off of utilizing the service than the amount you have to pay for the service.
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