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Carl House

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03-02-2009 10:44

can any one tell me how to set the parameters of shapemaker .91 i wanna try to make gemstones with it im me or send a notecard thanks

Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

03-02-2009 10:53

Please don't ask in a public forum for people to respond to you privately. That's extremely bad form. When a question is answered here publicly, it helps lots of other people who may be wondering the same thing, both now and in the future. When it's answered privately, it helps you and only you, a very selfish abuse of the forums. If you can come here to post the question, you can come back here to read the answer.

As for Shapemaker, did you read the Readme notecard that comes with it? That's the instructions. It should be in the main prim's contents.

Here's the full text, in case you don't have it for some reason:

From: Shape Maker .91 README

ShapeMaker is provided without support, as is. I'd like to hear about problems, but I can't commit to solving them. The code is free to use, copy, adapt or resell.

ShapeMaker automatically forms and combines a number of box prims to create rings (and cones), spheres (and domes) and tori. This allows you to make shapes larger than 10 meters, or smaller shapes with faceted sides. Rings (cylinders) are made differently than spheres and tori. With rings you can adjust the attributes of the ring after the blocks are rezzed, then freeze them in place when you're done. With spheres and tori, you set the parameters and then generate the shape all at once. No adjustment is possible.

ShapeMaker listens to commands from its owner on channel 12. By default it uses itself as the center of the created shape, but you can tell it to move the center above or below it (zoffset). It's probably best to experiment with rings before using sphere and torus. The commands are listed below.

Ring: To create a ring first rez the blocks with "/12 rez". Then adjust the parameters and freeze the blocks in place with "/12 freeze". Unlike with RingMaker, the radius of a ring is the center of the building blocks. Instead of a hollow parameter, you set the width of the blocks from innner edge to outer edge. This requires a litte thinking about where you want outer and inner edges to fall (yeah, it is lame). You can tilt the sides of a ring (i.e. make a cone) with the tilt command.

Sphere: To create a sphere set the parameters and say "/12 sphere". Be aware that a sphere extends downward as well as upward, and that it uses a lot of prims. You can create a section of a sphere (a dome) with the arcsides command. Set arscides to the number of vertical rings you want to generate, from top to bottom.

Torus: To create a torus set the parameters and say "/12 torus". Use "radius" to set the radius of the greater ring, and "tradius" to set the radius of the torus cross section. Be aware that the number of prims it uses is the number of sides squared (e.g. 16 sides = 256 prims. You can create a section of a torus with the arcsides command. This is not a section of the greater ring, but of the ring forming the cross section. Set arcsides to the number of sides to rez, from the outer side at 3 o'clock going counter clockwise.

Notes: There is a bug that sometimes causes the blocks in rings to fail to align or to form properly after you adjust something. It seems to go away if you reset, form a default ring, and then adjust from here. The shapes are made to line up on the inner edge - there will be "seams" between edges visible on the exteriors. In a laggy sim, blocks can get stuck and no longer obey RingMaker. To help users avoid painful accidents, ShapeMaker has built in limits: 360 sides for a ring, 24 sides for a sphere, and 18 sides for a torus.

Commands:

sides x ( Set the number of sides to x )
radius x ( Set the radius to x - !note that radius is the center of the blocks )
tradius x ( Set the radius of the torus cross section to x)
thickness x ( Set the thickness of the blocks to x )
zoffset x (Places center of shape x meters above or below RingMaker
ring ( Move the pieces into a ring shape )
sphere (Rez the blocks and move them into a sphere shape)
torus (Rez the blocks and move them into a torus shape)
arcsides x (The number of sides to generate out of the total - does not work with rings)
report ( Report the parameters )
reset ( Resets to default values )
color x y z (Set all the building block colors to x, y, z - numbers between 0 and 255)

THESE commands apply only to rings.
width x ( Set the width of the blocks to x - only applies to rings)
tilt x (Set the angle to tilt the sides of the ring to x - between -90 and 90 degrees)
rez ( Rez the building blocks - only applies to rings )
freeze ( Tell all the building blocks to stop listening - this is their final position)
delete ( Delete all the building blocks - applies only to rings
name x ( Set all the building block names to x - no spaces or underscores in name)

I wouldn't recommend it for jewelry, just so you know. It won't be able to do the kind of prim torturing required for making very tiny objects.

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Amaranthim Talon

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Join date: 14 Nov 2006

Posts: 12,032

03-02-2009 13:25

Had not heard of this product and am quite happy with LinkRez- but aside from jewerly, what other uses does one invision? Further- where is it available? (Not on Xstreet- had hoped to read descriptions, but did not find as ShapeMaker or Shap Maker .91)

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Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

03-02-2009 14:02

Shape Maker is one of many free tools from the great Cadroe Murphy. It's been around for about four years now. See /120/fd/33611/1.html for details.

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Amaranthim Talon

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Join date: 14 Nov 2006

Posts: 12,032

03-03-2009 07:58

From: Chosen Few

Shape Maker is one of many free tools from the great Cadroe Murphy. It's been around for about four years now. See /120/fd/33611/1.html for details.

Thank you- I had missed it entirely and I love checking out stuff like this at least once.

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Visit Talon Faire Main:
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store

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BarbaraEllen Galsworthy

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Join date: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 45

03-06-2009 10:58

From: Carl House

can any one tell me how to set the parameters of shapemaker .91 i wanna try to make gemstones with it im me or send a notecard thanks

How does this question become private, in an open forum?...... *scratches head* Save the OP the butt chewing and just answer the question. Gawd, does everyone in these forums want to be a control freak? I think the OP was trying to get a direct response if someone were not wanting to post in these forums, that's the way I took it. If you have specific rules for a forum, then you should post them in a sticky thread for all to read and follow rather than make them up as you go. This approach always chases people away from a forum rather than having them revisit. Notice the OP hasn't replied back...... : ))

Rolig Loon

Not as dumb as I look

Join date: 22 Mar 2007

Posts: 2,482

03-06-2009 11:23

Nonsense. Nobody's making up rules as we go along. A forum isn't a forum if the questions are answered privately. The whole idea of posting a question is to share knowledge in a public place. People who have been using these forums understand that. Newcomers have to learn somehow, and it's good for everyone to have a reminder occasionally.

Same thing with the "rule" about not posting a request for someone to build/texture/script an object for you. These are forums for learning how to build/texture/script yourself, not for asking where to buy something.

It IS important to keep a forum like these on track. Once it starts to degenerate, a forum loses interest for people who really DO want to learn.

There are kind ways to get the point across and some that are more brusque. We do need to be sensitive to people who don't know us well enough to get past a curmudgeonly tone. That said, however, I am glad that we have curmudgeons to keep us honest.

Chosen Few

Alpha Channel Slave

Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

03-06-2009 11:39

Barbara, the most likely reason for why the OP hasn't replied back is he never had any intention of coming back at all. He's probably out there still waiting for his IM or notecard. Or maybe he's gotten it. Or maybe he was just so embarrassed at having had it pointed out that the answer he sought was right in front if him all along (in the contents of the ShapeMaker object he already has), that he's now staying away so he doesn't have to own up to it. We'll probably never know.

It doesn't matter whether the OP ever comes back here or not. I posted for the sake of everyone else, not just for him. It is a fact that the vast majority of people who read this forum (and all forums) come here to read answers to questions they have, but for whatever reason, they don't ever post their questions themselves. For those people, it is absolutely imperative that questions get answered out in the open, like they're supposed to.

Additionally, many people simply aren't aware enough of a particular topic even to ask about it before information on it is posted. When they happen across a question asked by someone else, and then see it answered, they learn about things they never would have experienced any other way. We've already seen that happen for at least one person in this thread, and that person DID respond to say thank you. That alone, if nothing else, proves that the course I took in my response was worthwhile.

Also, my response had nothing to do with "control", as you put it. I have no power to control the actions of others, nor would I want such power even if it were possible. I simply stated my own beliefs about the situation. That's it.

I will always continue to discourage the practice of asking for privately delivered answers in response to publicly posted questions, whenever I can. Such behavior is an abuse of the forum, in my opinion. I've maintained that stance since I first started posting on forums roughly 15 years ago. Just as I know nothing I could say is likely to change the OP's behavior, you should be aware that nothing you've said here will in any way shake my belief that I'm right about this.

You're welcome to disagree as much as you want, of course. I don't make the rules, nor would I censor dissenting opinions even if I did. If you want to be the one to volunteer to deliver private answers any time someone asks, go right ahead. That's entirely up to you. Me, I will continue to point out why asking for such things through this medium is wrong, in the hope that it will discourage others from following suit. If a large number of people start doing it, the forums would quickly lose their value, and I for one do NOT want that to happen. I've seen it before, and I can promise you, you wouldn't like the results.

_____________________

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BarbaraEllen Galsworthy

Registered User

Join date: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 45

03-06-2009 13:43

Geez, fifteen years, amazing. God, we have found your replacement.

No sense wasting time on this guy, open the pearly gates for him, Please.

HUGS Barb

shapemaker .91
Carl House Registered User Join date: 6 May 2008 Posts: 3	03-02-2009 10:44 can any one tell me how to set the parameters of shapemaker .91 i wanna try to make gemstones with it im me or send a notecard thanks
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	03-02-2009 10:53 Please don't ask in a public forum for people to respond to you privately. That's extremely bad form. When a question is answered here publicly, it helps lots of other people who may be wondering the same thing, both now and in the future. When it's answered privately, it helps you and only you, a very selfish abuse of the forums. If you can come here to post the question, you can come back here to read the answer. As for Shapemaker, did you read the Readme notecard that comes with it? That's the instructions. It should be in the main prim's contents. Here's the full text, in case you don't have it for some reason: From: Shape Maker .91 README ShapeMaker is provided without support, as is. I'd like to hear about problems, but I can't commit to solving them. The code is free to use, copy, adapt or resell. ShapeMaker automatically forms and combines a number of box prims to create rings (and cones), spheres (and domes) and tori. This allows you to make shapes larger than 10 meters, or smaller shapes with faceted sides. Rings (cylinders) are made differently than spheres and tori. With rings you can adjust the attributes of the ring after the blocks are rezzed, then freeze them in place when you're done. With spheres and tori, you set the parameters and then generate the shape all at once. No adjustment is possible. ShapeMaker listens to commands from its owner on channel 12. By default it uses itself as the center of the created shape, but you can tell it to move the center above or below it (zoffset). It's probably best to experiment with rings before using sphere and torus. The commands are listed below. Ring: To create a ring first rez the blocks with "/12 rez". Then adjust the parameters and freeze the blocks in place with "/12 freeze". Unlike with RingMaker, the radius of a ring is the center of the building blocks. Instead of a hollow parameter, you set the width of the blocks from innner edge to outer edge. This requires a litte thinking about where you want outer and inner edges to fall (yeah, it is lame). You can tilt the sides of a ring (i.e. make a cone) with the tilt command. Sphere: To create a sphere set the parameters and say "/12 sphere". Be aware that a sphere extends downward as well as upward, and that it uses a lot of prims. You can create a section of a sphere (a dome) with the arcsides command. Set arscides to the number of vertical rings you want to generate, from top to bottom. Torus: To create a torus set the parameters and say "/12 torus". Use "radius" to set the radius of the greater ring, and "tradius" to set the radius of the torus cross section. Be aware that the number of prims it uses is the number of sides squared (e.g. 16 sides = 256 prims. You can create a section of a torus with the arcsides command. This is not a section of the greater ring, but of the ring forming the cross section. Set arcsides to the number of sides to rez, from the outer side at 3 o'clock going counter clockwise. Notes: There is a bug that sometimes causes the blocks in rings to fail to align or to form properly after you adjust something. It seems to go away if you reset, form a default ring, and then adjust from here. The shapes are made to line up on the inner edge - there will be "seams" between edges visible on the exteriors. In a laggy sim, blocks can get stuck and no longer obey RingMaker. To help users avoid painful accidents, ShapeMaker has built in limits: 360 sides for a ring, 24 sides for a sphere, and 18 sides for a torus. Commands: sides x ( Set the number of sides to x ) radius x ( Set the radius to x - !note that radius is the center of the blocks ) tradius x ( Set the radius of the torus cross section to x) thickness x ( Set the thickness of the blocks to x ) zoffset x (Places center of shape x meters above or below RingMaker ring ( Move the pieces into a ring shape ) sphere (Rez the blocks and move them into a sphere shape) torus (Rez the blocks and move them into a torus shape) arcsides x (The number of sides to generate out of the total - does not work with rings) report ( Report the parameters ) reset ( Resets to default values ) color x y z (Set all the building block colors to x, y, z - numbers between 0 and 255) THESE commands apply only to rings. width x ( Set the width of the blocks to x - only applies to rings) tilt x (Set the angle to tilt the sides of the ring to x - between -90 and 90 degrees) rez ( Rez the building blocks - only applies to rings ) freeze ( Tell all the building blocks to stop listening - this is their final position) delete ( Delete all the building blocks - applies only to rings name x ( Set all the building block names to x - no spaces or underscores in name) I wouldn't recommend it for jewelry, just so you know. It won't be able to do the kind of prim torturing required for making very tiny objects. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	03-02-2009 13:25 Had not heard of this product and am quite happy with LinkRez- but aside from jewerly, what other uses does one invision? Further- where is it available? (Not on Xstreet- had hoped to read descriptions, but did not find as ShapeMaker or Shap Maker .91) _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	03-02-2009 14:02 Shape Maker is one of many free tools from the great Cadroe Murphy. It's been around for about four years now. See /120/fd/33611/1.html for details. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	03-03-2009 07:58 From: Chosen Few Shape Maker is one of many free tools from the great Cadroe Murphy. It's been around for about four years now. See /120/fd/33611/1.html for details. Thank you- I had missed it entirely and I love checking out stuff like this at least once. _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
BarbaraEllen Galsworthy Registered User Join date: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 45	03-06-2009 10:58 From: Carl House can any one tell me how to set the parameters of shapemaker .91 i wanna try to make gemstones with it im me or send a notecard thanks How does this question become private, in an open forum?...... scratches head Save the OP the butt chewing and just answer the question. Gawd, does everyone in these forums want to be a control freak? I think the OP was trying to get a direct response if someone were not wanting to post in these forums, that's the way I took it. If you have specific rules for a forum, then you should post them in a sticky thread for all to read and follow rather than make them up as you go. This approach always chases people away from a forum rather than having them revisit. Notice the OP hasn't replied back...... : ))
Rolig Loon Not as dumb as I look Join date: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 2,482	03-06-2009 11:23 Nonsense. Nobody's making up rules as we go along. A forum isn't a forum if the questions are answered privately. The whole idea of posting a question is to share knowledge in a public place. People who have been using these forums understand that. Newcomers have to learn somehow, and it's good for everyone to have a reminder occasionally. Same thing with the "rule" about not posting a request for someone to build/texture/script an object for you. These are forums for learning how to build/texture/script yourself, not for asking where to buy something. It IS important to keep a forum like these on track. Once it starts to degenerate, a forum loses interest for people who really DO want to learn. There are kind ways to get the point across and some that are more brusque. We do need to be sensitive to people who don't know us well enough to get past a curmudgeonly tone. That said, however, I am glad that we have curmudgeons to keep us honest.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	03-06-2009 11:39 Barbara, the most likely reason for why the OP hasn't replied back is he never had any intention of coming back at all. He's probably out there still waiting for his IM or notecard. Or maybe he's gotten it. Or maybe he was just so embarrassed at having had it pointed out that the answer he sought was right in front if him all along (in the contents of the ShapeMaker object he already has), that he's now staying away so he doesn't have to own up to it. We'll probably never know. It doesn't matter whether the OP ever comes back here or not. I posted for the sake of everyone else, not just for him. It is a fact that the vast majority of people who read this forum (and all forums) come here to read answers to questions they have, but for whatever reason, they don't ever post their questions themselves. For those people, it is absolutely imperative that questions get answered out in the open, like they're supposed to. Additionally, many people simply aren't aware enough of a particular topic even to ask about it before information on it is posted. When they happen across a question asked by someone else, and then see it answered, they learn about things they never would have experienced any other way. We've already seen that happen for at least one person in this thread, and that person DID respond to say thank you. That alone, if nothing else, proves that the course I took in my response was worthwhile. Also, my response had nothing to do with "control", as you put it. I have no power to control the actions of others, nor would I want such power even if it were possible. I simply stated my own beliefs about the situation. That's it. I will always continue to discourage the practice of asking for privately delivered answers in response to publicly posted questions, whenever I can. Such behavior is an abuse of the forum, in my opinion. I've maintained that stance since I first started posting on forums roughly 15 years ago. Just as I know nothing I could say is likely to change the OP's behavior, you should be aware that nothing you've said here will in any way shake my belief that I'm right about this. You're welcome to disagree as much as you want, of course. I don't make the rules, nor would I censor dissenting opinions even if I did. If you want to be the one to volunteer to deliver private answers any time someone asks, go right ahead. That's entirely up to you. Me, I will continue to point out why asking for such things through this medium is wrong, in the hope that it will discourage others from following suit. If a large number of people start doing it, the forums would quickly lose their value, and I for one do NOT want that to happen. I've seen it before, and I can promise you, you wouldn't like the results. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
BarbaraEllen Galsworthy Registered User Join date: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 45	03-06-2009 13:43 Geez, fifteen years, amazing. God, we have found your replacement. No sense wasting time on this guy, open the pearly gates for him, Please. HUGS Barb

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