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Gearsawe Stonecutter
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10-23-2007 09:12
From: Osgeld Barmy

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write objects description
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llSetObjectDesc?
Tre Giles
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Outdated?
10-24-2007 08:52
I believe that "- Find out any information about an avatar's groups other than llSameGroup." is outdated.


With llGetObjectDetails() we can now play with group keys (to some extent). I havn't tried this - or even thought about trying this until now, but I base this on the description given of what this function can do (lslwiki.net - OBJECT_GROUP).
Winter Ventura
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You also can't...
01-27-2008 01:34
rename child prims

set an object for sale (via script)

set (or detect) the price of an object (even the object containing the script)

get the primitive parameters of a child prim (without putting a script in there to tell you)

get the description of a object in the item's inventory

delete an attachment

drop an attachment

access the inventory of a child prim (read/give/play animations without putting a script INTO the child prim)

Play animations via UUID

Pay another object using llGiveMoney (wouldn't it be great to have an automated tool that would pay into SLExchange or a private estate's ATM? SURE you can pay the ATM's owner, but you can't trigger the money event in their ATM with your llGiveMoney action.)

unsit an avatar on another prim (except in some very specific situations involving you owning the land under the targeted avatar, or the prim they're sitting on.... killing them in a damage enabled area (exceedingly rare these days) technically doesn't unsit them, it teleports them home, off the prim.)

make your avatar invisible (without using some massive offset trick, and that's not so much "hiding" your avatar, as being very far away from it)

hide your nametag (see above)

Keep someone from "camming" on to your land

Display HTML on a prim (or a picture off the web) - caveat: you *CAN* cheat this by using the media stream for land you own, but that's really more of "chromakeying" than actually putting the texture on the prim.
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Stan Binder
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Prim hierarchy
01-27-2008 02:48
Child prims should be able to have child prims as well.
Winter Ventura
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01-27-2008 03:54
From: Stan Binder
Child prims should be able to have child prims as well.


Babies! Havin Babies! Has the world gone mad?!!!??!?
(would those be "Grandchild Prims?".. and would my Parent Prim turn grey?)
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Stan Binder
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01-27-2008 13:17
From: Winter Ventura
Babies! Havin Babies! Has the world gone mad?!!!??!?
(would those be "Grandchild Prims?".. and would my Parent Prim turn grey?)

PLEASE!!! Don't forget the "Grandgrandchild Prims". I think the hairs of the parents could become grey, but the hairs are child prims of the parents as well. So only childs can be grey, somehow... I am confused
Void Singer
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fuel to the fire
02-25-2008 08:06
Get the current audio stream address for a parcel.
Set/Get 'buy' status or price.
create vehicles with more than 32 prims (or is it 31?) (there are workarounds)
get/set the 'glow' prim parameter(EDIT: available now)
prevent scripts from being removed from no-mod objects (there are methods to replace... that don't work on no script land)
change the axis on which particles are emitted (workarounds available)
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BETLOG Hax
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05-05-2008 07:32
From: Yumi Murakami
UNAVAILABLE FUNCTIONALITY
You cannot..
- Get or set the "glow" parameter of a prim.

Needs an update.. 25 is PRIM_GLOW.. works in any client
mi5tery Atlas
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07-09-2008 06:28
Use a script to send a message in local chat to appear exactly as the owner (or anyone else) typed the message, as in with the same colours. One can however change the name of the object containing the script to an avi's name and send a message to local chat but that text will always be green indicating it's from a script.

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PengAng Parx
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vending machine specs?
08-02-2008 10:06
Sorry for my ignorance in advance, and i've skimmed through large listing (first post)... but still on sure on this one. I'm not scriptor and have no plans on learning yet, and would like to commission someone instead. Is it possible to make some sort of vending machine mechanism?

For example:

#1. shop owner offers to rent my vending machine: rent is $1 per day
#2. vending machine sells widgets for $100 each, and deposits the widget to the buyer's inventory to keep
#3. with each purchase, $1 is paid automatically to me as the owner of the vending machine
#4. AND $10 is paid automatically paid to the shop owner who rents the machine

Are any of the above 4 mechanisms possible? Thanks for any pointers.

IN ADDITION...
This may not even be a scripting mechanism, but maybe a land/permission settings (i currently don't own land so i don't know)
- Is it possible to prevent a room or area on the map from being teleported to?
SuezanneC Baskerville
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08-02-2008 12:00
Conveniently use functions defined in another script by saying something like "include otherscript".
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Arix Stenvaag
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Object and Owner's gender
08-24-2008 05:23
From: Yumi Murakami
UNAVAILABLE FUNCTIONALITY

You cannot.....
You can't, RELIABLY:
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- Find out the name of a group, or the contents of a user's profile. (This can be found by using HTTP requests into the world server which is intended for search by the GSA, but this is not sanctioned by LL and contravenes the specification of llHTTPRequest, so may disappear.)


I want an object address it's owner with 'Sir' or 'Lady' Is this not possible because gender is in user's profile?
Like to receive your response, thanks so far
Sting McMahon
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08-24-2008 12:54
From: Arix Stenvaag
I want an object address it's owner with 'Sir' or 'Lady' Is this not possible because gender is in user's profile?
Like to receive your response, thanks so far


That would be possible if the object senses each person it has near and ask to the user to select its gender.
Deanna Trollop
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08-24-2008 14:40
From: Arix Stenvaag
Is this not possible because gender is in user's profile?
"Gender" of an avatar isn't defined in the profile, but in the parameters of the currently-worn avatar shape, which LSL has absolutely no access to.
Lasivian Leandros
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08-29-2008 10:03
- Return an object.

I find this one debatable.

If you use llVolumeDetect(TRUE) and llSetStatus(STATUS_PHYSICS, TRUE) an item will fall offworld through the ground and be returned to the owners inventory.
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Nadia Samuel
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deleting Dialog screens
09-19-2008 10:08
several persons have told me, it is NOT possible to delete a Dialog-screen by script (like using a timer function).
But I have seen TWO different scripts, using something like this... and also BUT... in both cases, the script had errors, so I could not test the scripts.
MY QUESTION: anybody have a WORKING script, that deletes Dialog-screen after some time?? Maybe it is possible to do it another way...
BETLOG Hax
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09-20-2008 10:11
From: Nadia Samuel
it is NOT possible to delete a Dialog-screen by script

It's not possible.
Reynard Baroque
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11-17-2008 20:55
From: Tre Giles
I believe that "- Find out any information about an avatar's groups other than llSameGroup." is outdated.


With llGetObjectDetails() we can now play with group keys (to some extent). I havn't tried this - or even thought about trying this until now, but I base this on the description given of what this function can do (lslwiki.net - OBJECT_GROUP).


If you use the OBJECT_GROUP flag and the uid is an avatar, NULL_KEY is returned.
(http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetObjectDetails)
SuezanneC Baskerville
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11-17-2008 21:03
From: Flennan Roffo
Despite this true claim I do have a script that can access differential information on a balance account of some other avatar.

What does that mean?
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Paradigm Brodsky
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Tell wether a given object was accepted or rejected.
12-14-2008 12:23
A script can not tell if an object given to an avatar has been accepted or rejected.
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Kazarko Kasei
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01-07-2009 21:53
I have not seen any possible way to use LSL to create a new landmark?
Beverly Ultsch
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01-14-2009 06:29
I think a few of these posts need revising.

With the following note.

Some things can now be done within LSL on the standard viewer, some need third party viewers (and this can be a good market place).

I would be intereseted to see stats on the different viewers in use.

Ones that spring to mind are, using the restrained life viewer and derivatives (because thats what i mostly write for :)

1) Alter/Remove clothing
2) Force TP

Others have become possible with new additions to LSL.

So maybe we should start the list again.
Winter Ventura
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01-14-2009 06:41
From: Beverly Ultsch
I think a few of these posts need revising.

With the following note.

Some things can now be done within LSL on the standard viewer, some need third party viewers (and this can be a good market place).

I would be intereseted to see stats on the different viewers in use.

Ones that spring to mind are, using the restrained life viewer and derivatives (because thats what i mostly write for :)

1) Alter/Remove clothing
2) Force TP

Others have become possible with new additions to LSL.

So maybe we should start the list again.


The title is "things you can't do in LSL".. if something in the LSL scripting language has changed, then it deserves revising.

Regarding third-party clients, many things are possible with Mozilla Firefox and Adobe Photoshop that you can't do with the main SL client, but you wouldn't list them here. There are websites dedicated to explaining the features and capabilities of other viewers and OpenSim, but they don't alter the Linden Scripting Language as it applies to Second Life, and what can, or can not be done with it.
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Beverly Ultsch
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01-14-2009 08:21
From: Winter Ventura
The title is "things you can't do in LSL".. if something in the LSL scripting language has changed, then it deserves revising.

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Useing the LSL scripting language, i can do things with an alternetive viewer, the language hasnt changed, just the results. I belive llOwnerSay has been in the language for a long time. The alternative viewers are here, so why tell people things are cant be done when they can?

I refer you to /54/2b/282634/1.html#post2153309

If you can find a invalid LSL command I would like to know.

So given the correct viewer I can change clothing.
Winter Ventura
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01-14-2009 08:55
From: Beverly Ultsch
So given the correct viewer I can change clothing.


LSL provides no tool to change clothing. period.

If I have the right webserver, I can store data permanently. if I have the right scripts on my webserver, I can poll the built-in SL search to garner UUIDs from user names.. if I have the right bot software, I can even write to notecards.

But guess what...without them, I can't. The tool doesn't exist in LSL.
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