BLOG: Openspaces Transition for January 2009

Maybe for you and a few other diehards it hasn't but as can be seen by the number of forum posts and comments on the JIRA issue it dies down at least publicly after a little while until the next time LL acts or blogs about it. My guess is that it will be a big deal only a few more times.

* Possibly when LL announces avatar and prim limits if they announce seperately from their expected Jan. 5th announcement

* Their Jan. 5 announcement when the change takes effect, this may be more than once (see above)

* Some undefined point in July when the $95-$125 change takes effect


Other than that it will simmer and the small group of residents who have always been the vocal ones will continue being vocal about how they have been/are being treated so unfairly by LL while a lot more will quietly resent LL and the majority like me will not like the decision but get over it and move on.

Incidentally, you do realize that your essentially playing into LL's hand right? You're in their designated corner talking to the technological version of the wall so that they can ignore you and forget you are there.

I don't give a flying fig, this is about far more than me, I had one openspace, the loss to me is about 200 bucks. No big deal there. Linden Lab's reputation as a company who you can do sensible business with has been shattered for me, and I hold a budget that is worth a lot more than my tier payments in an industry they're actively appealing to. It's a small world, that's something they need to realise.

I'm sorry I wasn't very clear with that statement, I didn't mean you personally I meant the larger you of everyone. I wasn't implying that you were doing it just for your own ends either sine I know that's not the case. I'm just saying in general what has already been said which is that LL has stopped caring and is going to most likely leave this open only until this has wound down enough so that everyone but a few people have gone from the vocal opposition phase to either the "I don't care anymore" phaseand the rest of the residents have stopped caring. When it gets that point they can use various methods to isolate and control that faction by closing this section of the boards, closing the JIRA issue, and marginalizing publically and through back channels the views of dissenters as "backwards".

I don't agree with that tactic but that's just my educated guess about what is going to happen.

"Don't rely on all I say I saw It's just that I have not been wrong before "

- Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor dreamcoat


Note: far from that quote I have been wrong before. It's just a good quote.

Hmmmmmmmmm.... I wonder if we can talk the president into a "content creator" bail out seeing how sales suck now in SL and so does everything else since this great mess LL has created

Although Like many residents you automatically depict LL as the cause of all your problems which is very naive. The the open space changes didn't help but they aren't the root cause of the economic slowdown in SL that's tanking everyone's sales. The cause is the slowing RL economy which is causing people to have less money to spend in SL and for people to be less willing to spend the money they do have.

Stage one you're generally correct, the second price increase will see a spike in opposition. I'm still not convinced the second price hike will happen. That's what I meant when I said you need your popcorn to last eight months, there will be a second, albeit smaller, uprising over what will amount to the bigger of the two increases.

Personally I'd leave this section and the JIRA open to fade away on their own rather than forecefully closing them. Closing them just brings the issue to the fore again.

Call me crazy, but in reviewing the Openspaces FAQ, it appears that the line for CPU ratios is now missing.

Maybe someone here who knows these things can explain why that line was deleted from the FAQ?

And, of course, no script limits have yet to appear, and according to the FAQ they will be announced sometime . . .

So . . . LL is offering products whose final parameters have not been established.

Right. By not announcing these limits, no one can come back crying to LL claiming bait and switch or fraud. Cool. All businesses should operate this way.

BTW, I am just a lowly renter in the food chain, but I like our sim owners who are doing their best to swallow the current cost increases. The owners will be stuck being unable to sell parcels if the CPU and script limits loom too darkly in the negative column for Homesteads.

I can be homeless again, but sim owners stand to lose much more if their clients abandon them.

Geee Gordon....wish we had all the answers like you do,then maybe SL would be great like YOU think it is

Geee Kimo....wish we had all the answers like you do, maybe SL would be horrible like YOU think it is

So Gordon is wrong just because he doesn't agree with you? Seems to me that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I would tend to agree with Gordon. I bet the RL economy has way more to do with any slowdown in sales than the Openspace price changes.

In general I think that's what they're going to do but as I'm sure you've noticed there are a few diehards that even during the lull times between announcements post purely for the sake of posting, really trolling is what most of their posts amount to, with no real content just a fresh moan, a necro-moan if you will . My thought is that your right to the extent that LL will wait a long (8 months is probably a fair guess) time before closing the section but until then will at least subtly try to make it stand out less so that it fades into the background and when most of us have forgotten about it then they'll close it.

In terms of the second price hike, I know a lot of people who hope your right and you may very well be but I haven't seen anything that would indicate that LL is planning on reducing or scrapping the second price hike in July.

Not all the answers but some of them from reading and delving into the myriad of blog posts, JIRA comments, forum comments, office hours, misc. official meetings, and the enlightening "OMG lets ambush Jack with questions everytime we see him" meeting.

I think we can all agree that both are contributing factors. We don't need to attack each other. One is just compounded on the other, at the most imprudent time. Getting hit by these changes unexpectedly and without recourse on top of the worsening real life economy is a death sentence to many.

My feeling (based on no real facts just my instincts) is that they are probably close to equally responsible for the decline in sales. It is a double whammy that can be tough to absorb unless you had extremely good sales to begin with.

Yes, George absolutely correct. At this stage, Lindens still see that as collateral damage in the over plan. In the last few days I have seen several sims closed down where money was over due. It appears to me that the overall plan was to reduce the size of the network and consolidate as many people as possible into the smallest network space as a strategy against the global recession/depression. Maximize income from existing infrastructure and eliminate any expansion.

Please no shoe throwing at Jack.

Completely agree.

Nope, I'm barefoot after throwing both my shoes at Rob