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Meta Starostin

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Join date: 5 Jul 2007

Posts: 56

02-12-2009 21:02

Consumer Affairs Victoria Resource Centre

http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256F2B00224F55/page/Listing-ConsumerAlerts-2009-02-09+-+Beware+bogus+bushfire+appeals+-+Alert?OpenDocument&1=942-Consumer+Scams+%26+Alerts~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID=30ED22BEA971660CCA2574320010FA50~

Iota Ultsch

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Join date: 22 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

02-12-2009 21:09

From: Meta Starostin

Typical! All this coming from a lame virtual CEO loser who could'nt make it in the bricks and mortar world - LMAO

Come and get me you tool.

OK...this is where I literally fell off my chair. Interesting you used the analogy of bricks and mortar!

Can someone please remove old numbnuts from this forum? Replying to him is insulting enough, yet letting him mouth-off like a fart without a cork isn't an option either!

Is anyone moderating this forum?

Surreal Babii

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Join date: 16 Jul 2007

Posts: 154

02-12-2009 21:21

Just to let you know, I have just heard from the Red Cross talked to a lovely lady called Marcia who was thrilled at the idea of an online community willing to help. I have now got all the official Registration packaged filled out and awaiting the Official letter to say I am a registered fundraiser. Yay.

Digital Angel
An Appeal for the Victoria Bushfire Victims
20th of Feb to 22nd of Feb
Proudly supporting the Australian Red Cross

_____________________

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Winter Jefferson

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Join date: 16 Jan 2008

Posts: 1

02-12-2009 21:37

Hey.

What a small person you are.

I've considered all the points you've raised, and I now have a well thought out, lucid and erudite response. And I say this as an Australian who has donated "real" money, spent his entire week inworld organising a benefit and dealing with frantic accusations of fraud such as the one you are spraying about in your ill educated manner. I felt it best to couch it in terms that you as a genuine Aussie would understand and recognise.

BASH IT UP YOUR CLACKER YOU WANKER.

Thank you, that is all.
~Winter

Meta Starostin

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Join date: 5 Jul 2007

Posts: 56

02-12-2009 22:18

Police have charged two people with stealing money raised for Victorian bushfire victims.

A 36-year-old Ferntree Gully man is accused of breaking in to Ferny Creek Primary School, east of Melbourne , on Thursday morning, and stealing cash and cheques worth several thousand dollars that had been collected for bushfire victims.

Police said the man was apprehended by police as he was running away on the school grounds and he faces charges of burglary and theft.

Meanwhile, a 16-year-old has been charged over the theft of a bushfire appeal charity tin from a McDonald's restaurant in Thomastown on Wednesday.

He was arrested about 2.30am (AEDT) on Thursday in High Street, Epping, and charged with two counts of theft and one of possessing proceeds of crime.

Both are expected to appear in court on Friday.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/5318650/two-charged-over-stolen-bushfire-funds/

Iota Ultsch

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Join date: 22 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

02-12-2009 23:14

From: Surreal Babii

Just to let you know, I have just heard from the Red Cross talked to a lovely lady called Marcia who was thrilled at the idea of an online community willing to help. I have now got all the official Registration packaged filled out and awaiting the Official letter to say I am a registered fundraiser. Yay.

Digital Angel
An Appeal for the Victoria Bushfire Victims
20th of Feb to 22nd of Feb
Proudly supporting the Australian Red Cross

Good for you my love! That's the spirit! Please let me know if I can assist you in any way. My clients at Tres Jolie have donated 200,000L over the past 24 hours. I am beyond impressed.
These women are intelligent, generous and very real!

For anyone who wants to donate you can either do it directly via the Red Cross of Australia:

http://www.redcross.org.au/default.asp

Or you can get a little more bang for your buck and donate at my store, Tres Jolie where you will receive a beautiful gown with every donation over 1000L.
I am still hoping Linden Labs will waive their 3.5% transaction fee in order to allow us to maximise our efforts.

See you at Tres Jolie and thank you all for your efforts!

All my love, iota ultsch.

Gumby Roffo

Multi grid user

Join date: 16 Mar 2007

Posts: 26

Volunteer Wildlife Rescue -Victorian Bushfires

02-12-2009 23:25

The fund raising has been going well for the groups assisting around the grid. I attended a fund raising PJ party at NED’s pub a couple of nights ago and met a very generous bunch of Aussies and all nationalities. The donations are being transferred to the Australian Red cross in support of the displaced folk as a result of this natural disaster.

There is also a link at A.I. Friends Pets in Spinolds Flat to support the animal rescue website , just touch the Koala. They are a non government funded organization assisting the care of wounded wildlife. This weeks sales of the dog houses are going towards the Red cross collection (5000L$ so far, should be 10K by the end of the weekend).

An RSS feed has been set up at ABC Island for up to date information and a list of contact numbers and websites that are involved with this disaster.

A big Thanks to all those folk that are trying their little bit in that unique SL way to help those currently in need. And just ignore the Trolls!

And well done on the " Official registered thingy Surreal

Stephanie Misfit

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Join date: 25 May 2006

Posts: 155

02-13-2009 00:12

From: Meta Starostin

In Australia you are required to be licenced to collect for charity. I have searched and the collectors do not have any such authorisation.

So using your logic, those of us in Australia who are participating in fundraisers through work, schools or sporting / music events are scammers who can expect a knock on the door from the AFP?

From: Meta Starostin

There have already been arrests here in Australia of idiots posing as collectors. I hope they rot in prison with the arsonists and looters.

Two people, yes. But that doesn't mean you need to be so paranoid as to think that every group collecting money to give to the Red Cross is a scam.

From: Meta Starostin

The Salvation Army are not authorise to take monetary donations for this particular cause - their job is merely distributing donated clothing, shelter and clothing etc.

I guess the Salvation Army are scammers too then, since they have launched a Bushfire Relief Appeal and are accepting donations through their website?

For someone who tries to speak with such authority, you certainly don't seem to have your facts straight.

From: Meta Starostin

If people really want to help, they should crawl out from behind their computers and get off your backsides and come here to Whittlesea, VIC and volunteer real help like hundreds of others.

Now surely you know that people are being discouraged from just "popping in to help" at the affected areas unless they are part of a group that is coordinating a relief effort. You, as someone affected by this, should know that a heap of strangers rocking up to the relief centres would be extremely stressful for the victims of the fires.

From: Meta Starostin

I have filed a support ticket on this matter and informed the Australian Media.

Who is looking to boost their ego now?

Wolfie Rankin

Registered User

Join date: 29 Jul 2006

Posts: 100

ABC Island

02-13-2009 00:29

I have been adding all kinds of information on the bushfires, important phone numbers and websites etc. You can read the blog in world at ABC Island via the RSS board in the Sandbox.

Wolfie Rankin.

Linda Brynner

Premium Member

Join date: 9 Jan 2007

Posts: 187

Australian Red Cross

02-13-2009 02:09

Although the idea for itself ( and i do hope ) is from a geniun good heart, and the critisism here again is most sad, although a little understandeble, i have donated directly at the Red Cross of Australia in Aud$.

This is the link

http://www.redcross.org.au/howyoucanhelp_default.htm

I have been in beautiful Aus 2 times and what is happening now in that country really tears my heart.

Love to all the Aussies...

_____________________

Love, Linda

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Judi Newall

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Join date: 4 Dec 2006

Posts: 9

02-13-2009 02:27

From: Meta Starostin

In Australia you are required to be licenced to collect for charity. I have searched and the collectors do not have any such authorisation.
........

If anyone wishes to donate should do so using REAL currency at http://www.redcross.org.au.

This will ensure that your donation will actually get to the survivors and not line some unidentified scammers pocket.
QUOTE]

OMG! but then websites get hijacked too so the money might not reach the Red Cross and big charities take an admin cut too ... Wow! TYVM for pointing this out. It's probably best not to bother giving to any charity ever then.

.... and now SERIOUSLY, yes there are scammers in SL but if even a few AUD$ get through that wouldn't otherwise, isn't that worth it? As someone pointed out people will give on impulse because it's convenient, that's why street collections still florish and yes some money may not reach the intended charity via collections but a large amount does. That's how RFL manages to contribute so much, tho personally I believe every L$ collected got thru, we had stringent checks but most of all great, tireless and caring people.

Congrats to those who ARE taking time to raise money here, I'll be visiting Tres Jolie and I'll be at the concert and at the pet centre too, and yes I'll be donating. Not just because it's hard cash but because it's a way to say SL is WONDERFUL when it's at it's international best, and because money from SL says that we care too.

Windsweptgold Wopat

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Join date: 24 May 2007

Posts: 1,003

You call yourself an Aussie?

02-13-2009 02:59

Meta are you saying the kids at my daughters school who took a bucket around and collected loose change for the appeal are now criminals ?

I have donated in RL to both the Red Cross and the Salvation Army dam i hope im not been ripped off.

I have also donated clothing to a women who is collecting for the victims, should i be worried here also after all maybe she is going to keep them all herself ?

No one said you had to be involved you don't want to be fine stay away from the events you wont be missed Im sure. You worry about you and let the rest of us worry about us.

I have has many ppl for OS ask me how things are here and all are very concerned ,wanting to help in some way and as was said not everyone is happy to give CC details OL so giving a few lindens is their way of helping.

You talk of L$ not being worth much well from your take on things if a person can not donate say $1000AUD then its not worth it .

I am lucky i am not affected by the fires but I have just learned of someone I knew who lost his wife and children, it is these ppl this is about no you not me but those who have been hurt in so many ways by this disaster. Any money is better than none. So thank you to those who are helping and to those who do not wish to that is your choice and lastly to those who wish to condemn lets hope you never need help

Leah McCullough

Registered User

Join date: 19 Dec 2007

Posts: 3

From the other side of the world

02-13-2009 03:50

Hi!

I wanted to give my two cents on the matter. I totally agree with Cajsa, not everybody is in an good economical position as to donate directly to the redcross, or even had the internation credit card to do it.

I'm from Uruguay, which is a small country in South America, and our economy is not the best. Far from it. I wish I could help more, but in my current situation, I'm trying to do the best I can.

I've donation kiosk on my store as well a design I did exclusively for helping on this. Everything goes to the Red Cross:
http://kotasknickers.blogspot.com/2009/02/victorian-bushfire-relief-participating.html

I think it's amazing how people from all over the world, no matter what, do this incredible effort to help Australian in this awful time.

You shouldn't underestimate or insult everybody for not being "rich" enough to donate thousands of dollars on a website. It's true that a lot of people earn their SL money in-world and I think it's great if they choose to donate it to this cause. Because each one is doing the best they can... We all should appreciate every effort, no matter how small.

So instead of coming here and accusing everybody of fraud or whatever, go and continue helping... spend your time in something more valuable than fighting here.

As if we all can take a flight and go there to help... Yeah right.... Be realistic! We're all giving our support and help on this... let's stay together and help those who most need us now.

Hugs,

Leah

Diana Allandale

Registered User

Join date: 24 Oct 2006

Posts: 1

Donations

02-13-2009 07:14

I've had a link on my RL website for the Red Cross since the Christmas tsumani in 2004. The organization does incredible work and I am proud to support them.

I'm one of the little people in SL -- I'm not good at organizing great events or making big splashes. But tomorrow I finish up my LOVESTORIES tour at the Zurich Opera House and the tips I make from my readings will be evenly split between the Austrailan Red Cross and the American Red Cross. I've done this for the entire tour and am totally impressed with the the generosity I've seen.

Will we raise record amounts? No. Will we raise a lot of money? No. But we will raise what we can and even if we have enough to simply buy dinner for one family in each country...then we've fed a family for one more meal.

A shout-out to Trixie Bumbo who is also doing what she can. She has created a wonderful necklace/earring set and has it for sale in her shop (Primagine); all the proceeds from the sale of this set go to the Australian Red Cross.

So...flame away because I'm not jumping on a plane and heading out to work. Flame me because my contibution is small. Fires burn themselves out and what is a flame but a small fire?

Darren Oates

Registered User

Join date: 9 Oct 2006

Posts: 9

unforseen causes donating to charitys

02-13-2009 07:57

Wouldnt it have been better to simply add a donate to the cause via yourselfs then you can pass on the funds instead of bloggin about avatars collecting donations just opens up a can of worms much better if you take control of unforseen causes and just place a direct link to your chossen charity good will in sl yes but just think about it end cost transaction costs and people not 100% whos who in sl anyway its a worthy cause to blog about good work on spreading the word:} waits for influx of donation signs lol

Shockwave Yareach

Registered User

Join date: 4 Oct 2006

Posts: 370

02-13-2009 09:30

I know for a fact that the "Fabulous Redheads" gathered thousands of real US dollars for the Race for the Cure breast cancer event a few months ago. I know this because one of our group (Artistic Fimicloud) died of breast cancer only a couple of weeks earlier, so I and others opened the wallets wide.

You are right that some scammers are out there. But not everyone - Samara is not a scammer and I trust her without question. If you know and trust the people who are running the cause, then help them. If you don't, then either research them or hold onto your money. But don't automatically assume that everyone in SL is just trying to take your money and run with it. Some people still have untarnished souls and want to do some good in the world while they still can.

Darren Oates

Registered User

Join date: 9 Oct 2006

Posts: 9

charity donation signs in general

02-13-2009 11:15

I do agree very much there are some really great people who are collecting for there cause that is close to there heart.

I would like to just give a idea to LL that i think would be a great help for these charitys and users aswell in the future.

Is there anyway that lindens can create official donation boxes and accounts like lets say for example the name of the charity PAY (cancer ___charity Linden approved ) Then the collector can ask ll for a official donations box for there cause then all payments will be held in that account and released to the charity upon checks ect Just i think it would be better for all if you could only pay a linden account rather than pay mr smith for his big toe op then you would know its a real donation. And not to take away control from the collector they can check whats been payed into the official donations box via stats ect also it could also help wave the transaction fees and many more things official lists ect.

Just a idea i know ll would have to setup somekind of charity box system but id rather pay a official residents name ie linden than mr smith. Carnt see the collectors having a problem with this i will be supporting this bush fires collection though.

Residents Support Relief for Australian Bush Fires
Meta Starostin Registered User Join date: 5 Jul 2007 Posts: 56	02-12-2009 21:02 Consumer Affairs Victoria Resource Centre http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256F2B00224F55/page/Listing-ConsumerAlerts-2009-02-09+-+Beware+bogus+bushfire+appeals+-+Alert?OpenDocument&1=942-Consumer+Scams+%26+Alerts~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID=30ED22BEA971660CCA2574320010FA50~
Iota Ultsch Registered User Join date: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	02-12-2009 21:09 From: Meta Starostin Typical! All this coming from a lame virtual CEO loser who could'nt make it in the bricks and mortar world - LMAO Come and get me you tool. OK...this is where I literally fell off my chair. Interesting you used the analogy of bricks and mortar! Can someone please remove old numbnuts from this forum? Replying to him is insulting enough, yet letting him mouth-off like a fart without a cork isn't an option either! Is anyone moderating this forum?
Surreal Babii A Touch of Surreal Design Join date: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 154	02-12-2009 21:21 Just to let you know, I have just heard from the Red Cross talked to a lovely lady called Marcia who was thrilled at the idea of an online community willing to help. I have now got all the official Registration packaged filled out and awaiting the Official letter to say I am a registered fundraiser. Yay. Digital Angel An Appeal for the Victoria Bushfire Victims 20th of Feb to 22nd of Feb Proudly supporting the Australian Red Cross _____________________ A Touch of Surreal Designs Women, Menswear - Quality clothing INWORLD - http://slurl.com/secondlife/rShop/76/216/23 BLOG - http://surrealdreamz.wordpress.com/ SLX - http://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=97479 FLICKR - http://flickr.com/photos/21987853@N05/
Winter Jefferson Vampire Lord Fashionisto Join date: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 1	02-12-2009 21:37 Hey. What a small person you are. I've considered all the points you've raised, and I now have a well thought out, lucid and erudite response. And I say this as an Australian who has donated "real" money, spent his entire week inworld organising a benefit and dealing with frantic accusations of fraud such as the one you are spraying about in your ill educated manner. I felt it best to couch it in terms that you as a genuine Aussie would understand and recognise. BASH IT UP YOUR CLACKER YOU WANKER. Thank you, that is all. ~Winter
Meta Starostin Registered User Join date: 5 Jul 2007 Posts: 56	02-12-2009 22:18 Police have charged two people with stealing money raised for Victorian bushfire victims. A 36-year-old Ferntree Gully man is accused of breaking in to Ferny Creek Primary School, east of Melbourne , on Thursday morning, and stealing cash and cheques worth several thousand dollars that had been collected for bushfire victims. Police said the man was apprehended by police as he was running away on the school grounds and he faces charges of burglary and theft. Meanwhile, a 16-year-old has been charged over the theft of a bushfire appeal charity tin from a McDonald's restaurant in Thomastown on Wednesday. He was arrested about 2.30am (AEDT) on Thursday in High Street, Epping, and charged with two counts of theft and one of possessing proceeds of crime. Both are expected to appear in court on Friday. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/5318650/two-charged-over-stolen-bushfire-funds/
Iota Ultsch Registered User Join date: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	02-12-2009 23:14 From: Surreal Babii Just to let you know, I have just heard from the Red Cross talked to a lovely lady called Marcia who was thrilled at the idea of an online community willing to help. I have now got all the official Registration packaged filled out and awaiting the Official letter to say I am a registered fundraiser. Yay. Digital Angel An Appeal for the Victoria Bushfire Victims 20th of Feb to 22nd of Feb Proudly supporting the Australian Red Cross Good for you my love! That's the spirit! Please let me know if I can assist you in any way. My clients at Tres Jolie have donated 200,000L over the past 24 hours. I am beyond impressed. These women are intelligent, generous and very real! For anyone who wants to donate you can either do it directly via the Red Cross of Australia: http://www.redcross.org.au/default.asp Or you can get a little more bang for your buck and donate at my store, Tres Jolie where you will receive a beautiful gown with every donation over 1000L. I am still hoping Linden Labs will waive their 3.5% transaction fee in order to allow us to maximise our efforts. See you at Tres Jolie and thank you all for your efforts! All my love, iota ultsch.
Gumby Roffo Multi grid user Join date: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 26	Volunteer Wildlife Rescue -Victorian Bushfires 02-12-2009 23:25 The fund raising has been going well for the groups assisting around the grid. I attended a fund raising PJ party at NED’s pub a couple of nights ago and met a very generous bunch of Aussies and all nationalities. The donations are being transferred to the Australian Red cross in support of the displaced folk as a result of this natural disaster. There is also a link at A.I. Friends Pets in Spinolds Flat to support the animal rescue website , just touch the Koala. They are a non government funded organization assisting the care of wounded wildlife. This weeks sales of the dog houses are going towards the Red cross collection (5000L$ so far, should be 10K by the end of the weekend). An RSS feed has been set up at ABC Island for up to date information and a list of contact numbers and websites that are involved with this disaster. A big Thanks to all those folk that are trying their little bit in that unique SL way to help those currently in need. And just ignore the Trolls! And well done on the " Official registered thingy Surreal
Stephanie Misfit Registered User Join date: 25 May 2006 Posts: 155	02-13-2009 00:12 From: Meta Starostin In Australia you are required to be licenced to collect for charity. I have searched and the collectors do not have any such authorisation. So using your logic, those of us in Australia who are participating in fundraisers through work, schools or sporting / music events are scammers who can expect a knock on the door from the AFP? From: Meta Starostin There have already been arrests here in Australia of idiots posing as collectors. I hope they rot in prison with the arsonists and looters. Two people, yes. But that doesn't mean you need to be so paranoid as to think that every group collecting money to give to the Red Cross is a scam. From: Meta Starostin The Salvation Army are not authorise to take monetary donations for this particular cause - their job is merely distributing donated clothing, shelter and clothing etc. I guess the Salvation Army are scammers too then, since they have launched a Bushfire Relief Appeal and are accepting donations through their website? For someone who tries to speak with such authority, you certainly don't seem to have your facts straight. From: Meta Starostin If people really want to help, they should crawl out from behind their computers and get off your backsides and come here to Whittlesea, VIC and volunteer real help like hundreds of others. Now surely you know that people are being discouraged from just "popping in to help" at the affected areas unless they are part of a group that is coordinating a relief effort. You, as someone affected by this, should know that a heap of strangers rocking up to the relief centres would be extremely stressful for the victims of the fires. From: Meta Starostin I have filed a support ticket on this matter and informed the Australian Media. Who is looking to boost their ego now?
Wolfie Rankin Registered User Join date: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 100	ABC Island 02-13-2009 00:29 I have been adding all kinds of information on the bushfires, important phone numbers and websites etc. You can read the blog in world at ABC Island via the RSS board in the Sandbox. Wolfie Rankin.
Linda Brynner Premium Member Join date: 9 Jan 2007 Posts: 187	Australian Red Cross 02-13-2009 02:09 Although the idea for itself ( and i do hope ) is from a geniun good heart, and the critisism here again is most sad, although a little understandeble, i have donated directly at the Red Cross of Australia in Aud$. This is the link http://www.redcross.org.au/howyoucanhelp_default.htm I have been in beautiful Aus 2 times and what is happening now in that country really tears my heart. Love to all the Aussies... _____________________ Love, Linda Land Store • Freebies • women Fashion http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rundlelawn/14/58/30 http://AboutLand.wordpress.com Beaches Mainland Protected, the best remaining in SL http://slbotblacklist.wordpress.com/ CNN iReports http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-205129
Judi Newall Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2006 Posts: 9	02-13-2009 02:27 From: Meta Starostin In Australia you are required to be licenced to collect for charity. I have searched and the collectors do not have any such authorisation. ........ If anyone wishes to donate should do so using REAL currency at http://www.redcross.org.au. This will ensure that your donation will actually get to the survivors and not line some unidentified scammers pocket. QUOTE] OMG! but then websites get hijacked too so the money might not reach the Red Cross and big charities take an admin cut too ... Wow! TYVM for pointing this out. It's probably best not to bother giving to any charity ever then. .... and now SERIOUSLY, yes there are scammers in SL but if even a few AUD$ get through that wouldn't otherwise, isn't that worth it? As someone pointed out people will give on impulse because it's convenient, that's why street collections still florish and yes some money may not reach the intended charity via collections but a large amount does. That's how RFL manages to contribute so much, tho personally I believe every L$ collected got thru, we had stringent checks but most of all great, tireless and caring people. Congrats to those who ARE taking time to raise money here, I'll be visiting Tres Jolie and I'll be at the concert and at the pet centre too, and yes I'll be donating. Not just because it's hard cash but because it's a way to say SL is WONDERFUL when it's at it's international best, and because money from SL says that we care too.
Windsweptgold Wopat Registered User Join date: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1,003	You call yourself an Aussie? 02-13-2009 02:59 Meta are you saying the kids at my daughters school who took a bucket around and collected loose change for the appeal are now criminals ? I have donated in RL to both the Red Cross and the Salvation Army dam i hope im not been ripped off. I have also donated clothing to a women who is collecting for the victims, should i be worried here also after all maybe she is going to keep them all herself ? No one said you had to be involved you don't want to be fine stay away from the events you wont be missed Im sure. You worry about you and let the rest of us worry about us. I have has many ppl for OS ask me how things are here and all are very concerned ,wanting to help in some way and as was said not everyone is happy to give CC details OL so giving a few lindens is their way of helping. You talk of L$ not being worth much well from your take on things if a person can not donate say $1000AUD then its not worth it . I am lucky i am not affected by the fires but I have just learned of someone I knew who lost his wife and children, it is these ppl this is about no you not me but those who have been hurt in so many ways by this disaster. Any money is better than none. So thank you to those who are helping and to those who do not wish to that is your choice and lastly to those who wish to condemn lets hope you never need help
Leah McCullough Registered User Join date: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 3	From the other side of the world 02-13-2009 03:50 Hi! I wanted to give my two cents on the matter. I totally agree with Cajsa, not everybody is in an good economical position as to donate directly to the redcross, or even had the internation credit card to do it. I'm from Uruguay, which is a small country in South America, and our economy is not the best. Far from it. I wish I could help more, but in my current situation, I'm trying to do the best I can. I've donation kiosk on my store as well a design I did exclusively for helping on this. Everything goes to the Red Cross: http://kotasknickers.blogspot.com/2009/02/victorian-bushfire-relief-participating.html I think it's amazing how people from all over the world, no matter what, do this incredible effort to help Australian in this awful time. You shouldn't underestimate or insult everybody for not being "rich" enough to donate thousands of dollars on a website. It's true that a lot of people earn their SL money in-world and I think it's great if they choose to donate it to this cause. Because each one is doing the best they can... We all should appreciate every effort, no matter how small. So instead of coming here and accusing everybody of fraud or whatever, go and continue helping... spend your time in something more valuable than fighting here. As if we all can take a flight and go there to help... Yeah right.... Be realistic! We're all giving our support and help on this... let's stay together and help those who most need us now. Hugs, Leah
Diana Allandale Registered User Join date: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 1	Donations 02-13-2009 07:14 I've had a link on my RL website for the Red Cross since the Christmas tsumani in 2004. The organization does incredible work and I am proud to support them. I'm one of the little people in SL -- I'm not good at organizing great events or making big splashes. But tomorrow I finish up my LOVESTORIES tour at the Zurich Opera House and the tips I make from my readings will be evenly split between the Austrailan Red Cross and the American Red Cross. I've done this for the entire tour and am totally impressed with the the generosity I've seen. Will we raise record amounts? No. Will we raise a lot of money? No. But we will raise what we can and even if we have enough to simply buy dinner for one family in each country...then we've fed a family for one more meal. A shout-out to Trixie Bumbo who is also doing what she can. She has created a wonderful necklace/earring set and has it for sale in her shop (Primagine); all the proceeds from the sale of this set go to the Australian Red Cross. So...flame away because I'm not jumping on a plane and heading out to work. Flame me because my contibution is small. Fires burn themselves out and what is a flame but a small fire?
Darren Oates Registered User Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 9	unforseen causes donating to charitys 02-13-2009 07:57 Wouldnt it have been better to simply add a donate to the cause via yourselfs then you can pass on the funds instead of bloggin about avatars collecting donations just opens up a can of worms much better if you take control of unforseen causes and just place a direct link to your chossen charity good will in sl yes but just think about it end cost transaction costs and people not 100% whos who in sl anyway its a worthy cause to blog about good work on spreading the word:} waits for influx of donation signs lol
Shockwave Yareach Registered User Join date: 4 Oct 2006 Posts: 370	02-13-2009 09:30 I know for a fact that the "Fabulous Redheads" gathered thousands of real US dollars for the Race for the Cure breast cancer event a few months ago. I know this because one of our group (Artistic Fimicloud) died of breast cancer only a couple of weeks earlier, so I and others opened the wallets wide. You are right that some scammers are out there. But not everyone - Samara is not a scammer and I trust her without question. If you know and trust the people who are running the cause, then help them. If you don't, then either research them or hold onto your money. But don't automatically assume that everyone in SL is just trying to take your money and run with it. Some people still have untarnished souls and want to do some good in the world while they still can.
Darren Oates Registered User Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 9	charity donation signs in general 02-13-2009 11:15 I do agree very much there are some really great people who are collecting for there cause that is close to there heart. I would like to just give a idea to LL that i think would be a great help for these charitys and users aswell in the future. Is there anyway that lindens can create official donation boxes and accounts like lets say for example the name of the charity PAY (cancer ___charity Linden approved ) Then the collector can ask ll for a official donations box for there cause then all payments will be held in that account and released to the charity upon checks ect Just i think it would be better for all if you could only pay a linden account rather than pay mr smith for his big toe op then you would know its a real donation. And not to take away control from the collector they can check whats been payed into the official donations box via stats ect also it could also help wave the transaction fees and many more things official lists ect. Just a idea i know ll would have to setup somekind of charity box system but id rather pay a official residents name ie linden than mr smith. Carnt see the collectors having a problem with this i will be supporting this bush fires collection though.

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