Question about traffic

I never said torley said anything to me

I said that a linden directed me to the wiki info, and told me that it is still valid

and I said I suggested that torley come here to clear it up, and that torley should do a tips post on the blog about it

sugar coat it however you like, the post was directed at me

otherwise said poster would have said... oh I think the lindens are pulling your leg


being they quoted my post, then said a good leg pull, etc...

whatever... I know some folks will sugar coat it, people hate to think someone can have a mean side

and now I am posting to a post that has been removed

still leaving my post here though.

Just a few other posibilities:

-The Linden was pulling your leg.
-The knowledgebase article itself is a legpull

or

-'leg pull' is being used in this context as 'something not to be taken seriously'.


If it were me, I probably would have asked for clarification first before I allowed myself to get publically upset

When I read it, I thought snowman was saying that a Linden had pulled your leg, not that you were pulling anyone else's leg.

I realize that interpretation might not be as satisfying as all of this sputtering indignation, but it seems reasonable to me.

ETA: Rhaorth, I think the help you provide on the forums is useful and I'd hate to see you stop. But - some friendly advice - you will do your blood pressure some good not to constantly assume that everyone is out to get you, and that every off-hand comment is a carefully crafted attack on you personally.

I wonder where they get that saying, "pulling your leg"? Makes absolutely no sense ...

I'm sure Snowman is saying that the LINDENS were pulling legs, not you Rhaorth. Relax.

like no one else ever gets upset in public???

if they were trying to say they think a linden was pulling my leg etc, they would have worded it as such

but now, since the seed has been planted, regardless of what the intent of the post was, said poster can now claim it was not directed at me (when I am sure it was and nothing said will change that)

when I get my dander up I get stubborn

which is why I am gonna stop posting to this thread, unless it is a direct question to me from anyone.

the nature of that post, in my book, is not up for debate

I know most people here will stick up for the poster, he is a well known and well liked poster

Most of the regular posters are here mainly because we want to help others. It's GOOD to want to contribute and further the general understanding of how SL works because god knows we don't have a user guide. Don't decide to give up on helping people just because some folks disagree with you.

It's really good that you asked a Linden about this! Traffic is just a very hot topic here, despite its waning relevance as New Search takes over, and you'll find a lot of people with very different opinions and observations about it, and if the KB article on traffic is not accurate, it wouldn't be the first time for that- and it also wouldn't be the first time that a Linden gave someone incorrect information. If the KB article IS correct? Well, it would be great to know that for sure! I surely hope we get a definitive answer one day, but I'm not holding my breath.

At any rate, we're ALL trying to help out. Some of these areas are kind of vague, and we're going to disagree sometimes. Has nothing to do with leg-pulling or lying.

I wasn't going to say anything directly in the thread, but now that I see more posts in a particular direction, here I am to offer my unasked for opinion. I personally found Snowman's comment quite . . odd. If I had seen that quoting something I had written, even having meet Snowman in world, I would have been quite annoyed. Sorry.

But I leave this thread now, after leaving my unasked for unsolicited opinion.



heh, that is all Snowman said leg-pulling

/shrug. Considering your post count vs. Snowman's postcount, I'd have thunk that you were the well known poster.

Regardless, I don't know either of you. I was just trying to point out that there might be a tiny posibility that you were misinterpreting, and getting upset unneccesarily.



From http://www.word-detective.com/100699.html:

Um.......so how is a mysterious word givin a meaning lol

I remember my english teacher a school telling us that the phrase "pulling your leg' orginated from public hangings - they pulled onto their legs to make them die quicker.
Then he said it may have been from theives tripping people up in order to steal from them.

Lol, I think he just made it up.


Anyway, thanks for replying everyone *she say as she wades through the tension*. I think my traffic numbers being all over the place might just be another one of those fabulous glitches.

This is another of those mysteries like where do they get dick from richard or bill from william.....

ah don't worry about the tension, it happens a lot when I am around, especially lately

my PC is in the shop, waiting to hear the bad news
RL is stressful as always

Hi guys. Genuinely sorry I caused so much misunderstanding... I will reveal my logic now (and should have done earlier).

IF that was the traffic formula, then it could be gamed to hell, with astronomical traffic figures - a bot would only need to rest on a parcel for five mins per day to allocate its full traffic points, there would be no point in having them logged in all day when you could get another one in to divest a parcel its "traffic points". That is how I read the formula.

So, I find it impossible to believe that is the formula, although in an ideal world without bots it would probably be a great formula. I do not doubt the formula was posted in full honesty, passing on info received.

Yes - I meant to say "leg pull", but not of the poster, and certainly not in any mean way - hence the .....

More than casual observation of traffic stats over the last two years on hundreds of parcels lends me to believe that the formula posted is wholly inaccurate. More importantly, Lindens have advised me, through a third party, that they absolutely do not reveal the formula. If it is posted in the KB, it should probably be taken down - but I would be WHOLLY IMPRESSED if someone could prove that formula is correct.

EDIT: I have now checked the wiki entry at http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Traffic

The formula quoted was clearly designed for making $L payments for dwell on a long since closed down incentive program. I guess the formula has changed now (or, at least, is wrongly represented in the wiki), and I will pay $L50,000 to the first person that can prove that I am wrong.


~Snowman~

what a waste of a thread to answer the OP's question with non-sense arguments.

No. We did answer her question. We said "No one really knows for sure because the Lindens won't release that information."

understood.
but the posts following it was a rather argumentitave un-interesting debate about "he said, she said" not relating the the OP's question.
i see this quite often in many threads since moderation here seems to be "nil" and non-existent.
I'll shut up now as i am too, now contributiing to ending of this non-sensical thread.

seems to happen in almost all threads where people tend to have a conflict of opinions or do not believe the info given is correct (regardless of who gives it or where it comes from)

I miss the days that we had moderation...

Sorry to have to bump this thread again but I have another traffic-related question..

My traffic goes up and down on a daily basis; is this what's supposed to happen? Or is it supposed to go steadily up and remain there?

In the past week since I opened my shop i've seen numbers go from 857 to 109 to 480 to 27 to 600. I'm confused....... again.

it will change daily depending on how many ppl you have show up on your land and how long they stay there

according to torley at his office hours, that old formula I posted is indeed the one that is in current use, but will eventually be phased out (for what I dunno) and he said he would pass on the request to have a blog post about traffic

(please no leg pulling comments, I am simply passing on info, and I tend to believe torley)

Ah, I see! Thank you Rhaorth

Based on what others have posted in countless other threads on the same topic, traffic is nothing more than 1 point per avatar per minute. Since Torley isn't responsible for programming the traffic calculations, there's no reason for him to doubt what he's hearing from the Knowledge Base or other Lindens that are also not responsible for it. Based on some of the extensive research done by other forum posters and my own obligations, I'd bet my next paycheck that 1 point per avatar per minute is a lot more accurate than the formula posted in the Knowledge Base. It would make no sense whatsoever to get more credit for someone that logs in, goes to your place for 5 minutes and logs out than you get for someone that logs in, enjoys your place for several hours and then goes somewhere else for a while.